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mcmagic posted:The reason you're playing the 5 color deck (at least in my opinion) is to be able to play both Sphinx's rev and Rakdos's return. If you're playing creatures like Polukranos or SB Dragon you don't need Chromanticore anyway. The issue is that it just NEVER sticks unless you can bestow it on something which is slow as hell and even then it dies pretty easily to just about anything other than Doom Blade. The thing about Chromanticore sticking if you bestow it is that even then it actually gets removed by stuff like Golgari Charm or Revoke Existence, which isn't even being brought in to deal with it but is really efficient removal for it. Turning potentially dead sideboard cards into a 2 mana kill spell for your wincon is really bad. I thought it was a cool idea but it dying to enchantment removal that decks will side in to deal with Detention Sphere is a terrible unintended consequence.
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Tharizdun posted:Fever dreams.
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rabidsquid posted:The thing about Chromanticore sticking if you bestow it is that even then it actually gets removed by stuff like Golgari Charm or Revoke Existence, which isn't even being brought in to deal with it but is really efficient removal for it. Turning potentially dead sideboard cards into a 2 mana kill spell for your wincon is really bad. Yeah plus it dies to revoke even if it's not bestowed. It's bad.
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Apr 10, 2014 22:09
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Entropic posted:Wait, on what are people basing speculation about a new Garruk? I'm going to go out on a limb and say that he's not standard playable, since that seems to be the thread consensus on everything.
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Cactrot posted:I'm going to go out on a limb and say that he's not standard playable, since that seems to be the thread consensus on everything. The card that hasn't been announced isn't standard playable, ok. Yeah this thread is full of people who hate on cards that aren't obviously game breaking but there's no reason to be this passive-aggressive about it.
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Tharizdun posted:Fever dreams and slash-fic
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In fairness I think Mark Rosewater has mentioned on his tumblr he thinks it was a mistake that M14 Garruk was pure green, as that lead to the impression that he was cured of the Veil nonsense. The unwritten implication there is that at some point Garruk will receive a new card that reflects where he's supposed to be at in the lore.
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Entropic posted:I heard a rumor from my rear end that Huey is going to be a whole block based on 4-color legendary ducks. Let me post a poorly templated hypothetical design I just made up so that we can argue for 10 pages about whether it would be overpowered and how it breaks the color pie. It's pretty obvious that Huey block is based off of William Huey Jensen. Dewy is likely EFro, although it's a mystery who Dewy is.
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Symphonie posted:In fairness I think Mark Rosewater has mentioned on his tumblr he thinks it was a mistake that M14 Garruk was pure green, as that lead to the impression that he was cured of the Veil nonsense. The unwritten implication there is that at some point Garruk will receive a new card that reflects where he's supposed to be at in the lore. Was his flip card in Innistrad meant to represent, like, the exact moment the curse took hold?
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Mortimer posted:The card that hasn't been announced isn't standard playable, ok. Yeah this thread is full of people who hate on cards that aren't obviously game breaking but there's no reason to be this passive-aggressive about it. It's hard not to get tired of people just drive-by posting "new card bad", especially since it's the safest prediction in general, considering that most cards they print never see competitive play.
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Apr 10, 2014 22:19
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Spoil Pharika already goddam it.
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Apr 10, 2014 22:22
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Entropic posted:Man, I love looking through the old sets. The best part about this card is that the painter got "Hyalopterous" right. From https://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtgcom/arcana/340 quote:"Hyalopterous" is a fancy word meaning "having glassy or transparent wings."
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Vomax posted:Was his flip card in Innistrad meant to represent, like, the exact moment the curse took hold? When Garruk and Liliana finally meet he's fully Veil-Cursed, yes. Avacyn's Cursemute brings him back to his senses.
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oryx posted:The best part about this card is that the painter got "Hyalopterous" right.
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Mortimer posted:The card that hasn't been announced isn't standard playable, ok. That's pretty incontrovertibly true, though.
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mcmagic posted:The reason you're playing the 5 color deck (at least in my opinion) is to be able to play both Sphinx's rev and Rakdos's return. If you're playing creatures like Polukranos or SB Dragon you don't need Chromanticore anyway. The issue is that it just NEVER sticks unless you can bestow it on something which is slow as hell and even then it dies pretty easily to just about anything other than Doom Blade. The reason you play a 5 color deck is to live the impossible dream of bestowing a Chromanticore on a Chromanticore.
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oryx posted:The best part about this card is that the painter got "Hyalopterous" right. IIRC those wings were added by a WotC in-house artist after the art was submitted with a deadline looming too near to redo the whole piece.
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Balon posted:Spoil Pharika already goddam it.  Brian Kibler's website for his exclusive on Pharika.
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Angry Grimace posted:The reason you play a 5 color deck is to live the impossible dream of bestowing a Chromanticore on a Chromanticore. Do it now before you live the dream, and are immediately blown out by Silence the Believers and have to commit ritual suicide
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Korak posted:
Who do I F5 for Athreos because I wanna build his EDH deck already.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Who do I F5 for Athreos because I wanna build his EDH deck already. 2WB Extort Extort Extort Extort
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Angry Grimace posted:For some reason Kookus is on the Reserved List. I believe that at the time, any rare in an expansion that wasn't immediately reprinted in the next core set became reserved.
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So when is anybody going to do a UR variant of Standard Dredge involving Spite of Mogis and Spellheart Chimera and using poo poo like Steam Augury and Izzet Charms to pitch spells into the graveyard? It's me, I'll be doing it.
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Count Bleck posted:So when is anybody going to do a UR variant of Standard Dredge involving Spite of Mogis and Spellheart Chimera and using poo poo like Steam Augury and Izzet Charms to pitch spells into the graveyard? Spite can't target players, I believe.
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Count Bleck posted:So when is anybody going to do a UR variant of Standard Dredge involving Spite of Mogis and Spellheart Chimera and using poo poo like Steam Augury and Izzet Charms to pitch spells into the graveyard? I will also be doing this since it sounds so fun.
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Count Bleck posted:So when is anybody going to do a UR variant of Standard Dredge involving Spite of Mogis and Spellheart Chimera and using poo poo like Steam Augury and Izzet Charms to pitch spells into the graveyard? I've already been doing that. Spite looks lovely, though I'm not sure how I'm going to be moving my deck around to get it in. I wonder if I can fit the blue red god in as a one of. edit: Actually, Magma Jet, you're out. That doesn't do dick to move me beyond the initial few turns. Ramos fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Apr 11, 2014 |
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C-Euro posted:Spite can't target players, I believe. It doesn't but when you're blowing a 10/10 polukranos into the graveyard with R, you'll be feeling good.
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I am also working on a version of said deck. I actually feel like including some Young Pyromancers and Dragon Mantles could complement Spellheart pretty well.
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ThirdEmperor posted:I am also working on a version of said deck. While the Mantle is helpful for drawing more cards, I find that the Young Pyromancer is better just sitting there and using his buddies as chump fodder. In general, I try to keep only one nontoken creature on the field at a time too. Forcing the other person to use wraths and what not to retain card advantage is fantastic. People really are scared of Guttersnipe.
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This is the version that LightReaper and I have been messing with in the Brewhaus thread: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/izzet-good-16-03-14-2/ I'm planning on putting in 4 Temple of Epiphany, 2 Keranos, and some number of The linked list is out of date, I think even as the format is now the deck needs Negate maindeck to protect your Spellhearts. Quicken is coming out, I'm also not really happy with Guttersnipe but I don't really have any idea of what goes in that slot.
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I would like to see goblin electromancer get some love. Wonder if he can fit in there somewhere.
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Boco_T posted:This is the version that LightReaper and I have been messing with in the Brewhaus thread: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/izzet-good-16-03-14-2/ Out of curiosity, what's wrong with Guttersnipe? I get fantastic results with how he's a magnet for removal or just eats through life really fast. If anything, one of the first changes I would make is dropping the number of Chimeras down to two, since having one early game is rather deadweight.
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Count Bleck posted:So when is anybody going to do a UR variant of Standard Dredge involving Spite of Mogis and Spellheart Chimera and using poo poo like Steam Augury and Izzet Charms to pitch spells into the graveyard? Why are you dredging? Just play burn, but with blue splashed for Spellheart and maybe some counters. You've got Pyrostatic_Pillar.bear, don't not be playing burn.
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Ramos posted:Out of curiosity, what's wrong with Guttersnipe? I get fantastic results with how he's a magnet for removal or just eats through life really fast.
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Boco_T posted:Probably just a small sample size against removal-heavy decks but I never really get any damage out of it. That's a good thing. Any removal going to it and not Chimera is A GOOD THING. Keep in mind, the only creature you aren't pitching out there to die is the Chimera. Everything else is a distraction.
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   Duels 2015 will feature proper collection-based Deck Building
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Now that's a land.
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They forgot to tell Maro he had a social media preview again: Whooooooops
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