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Tasty_Crayon
Jul 29, 2006
Same story, different version.

LITERALLY A BIRD posted:

Congratulations, you have a masturbating potato. :v:

Ugh, not another one

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mikerock
Oct 29, 2005

Tasty_Crayon posted:

Leeloo has her butt propped up on some of her rounder shaped toys and is swaying her head going 'rrrr rrrr rrrr'.

Anyone else have a GCC do this? I am assuming it is hormone related.

Scout does this with her pinecone, which we have nicknamed "her boyfriend"

Tasty_Crayon
Jul 29, 2006
Same story, different version.

I was hoping she was trying to hatch it. Our quaker is a little more obvious about it (creepy groaning noises, humping of objects, vinegar strokes, ect)

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

Kenshin posted:

She has these beautiful silver/light gray irises. Duskies are really beautiful little birds, if not as flashy as Sun Conures or GCCs. :)



:madmax:

a sexual elk
May 16, 2007




:black101:

Jinxie Monroe
Apr 9, 2007

No really.
Thank you.
I just can't seem to keep my house plants alive. Help me goons! What could the problem possibly be??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j7ALcybuOI

Lenswork
Mar 27, 2010
I've looked into your problem as thoroughly as possible, and I believe a raging pandemic of cuteness has infected your household.

Battle Pigeon
Nov 7, 2011

I am dancing potato
give me millet





:hfive:

Edit: Dammit, I got complacent. Both Steve and Inko were out and near each other, I leant over to Steve, and Inko managed to bite me in the face. Big, visible, and bleeding V-shaped bite on one side of my nose.

Battle Pigeon fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Apr 10, 2014

Marshmallow Blue
Apr 25, 2010

Tasty_Crayon posted:

Ugh, not another one

Just be happy it's not their food cup guys.

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

Marshmallow Blue posted:

Just be happy it's not their food cup guys.

Or the side of your face. Yes that happened on Tuesday.

Shark Sandwich
Sep 6, 2010

by R. Guyovich
Archer masturbates on his perch while staring at Ellie, who's usually presenting herself to him.

Lenswork
Mar 27, 2010
Look who I got to play with today!



His name is Mosby and he is just the sweetest.

Lenswork fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Apr 11, 2014

Battle Pigeon
Nov 7, 2011

I am dancing potato
give me millet


Ohtori flew over to check out the ticking egg timer, and since it was about time for it to go off, I left him be to see how he'd react. He was licking it, it went off, he froze and pinned his eyes-then started hitting it with his beak as soon as it shut up. Of course.

Lenswork posted:

Look who I got to play with today!



His name is Mosby and he is just the sweetest.

He's beautiful! I'm envious you got to play with him. Do you know how old he is?

Pookah
Aug 21, 2008

🪶Caw🪶





Lenswork posted:

Look who I got to play with today!



His name is Mosby and he is just the sweetest.

He sort of looks like Grover and that is a very good character to look like in my opinion :3:
Pookie's actually having a surprisingly mellow spring this year - no major biting, very little nesting behaviour except for trying to stuff herself under the dresser and beside the cooker in the kitchen.

Lenswork
Mar 27, 2010
Mosby is 10 and just hitting puberty. His owner needed a break so he is visiting the sanctuary for a little while. He had never met a man before he came to the sanctuary. I think I was automatically a safe person to cuddle with just because I'm a woman and there was a man visiting the room at the same time.

uglynoodles
May 28, 2009


Okay so... This biting bullshit is definitely spring, right?
This will go away? This will stop? Iro's brain will un-break itself? Because I've been trying to no avail. My hands are Satan unless they're in gloves.

Our apartment is really tiny. I can't move Iro's cage anywhere else, and where it is is in the kitchen area near the fridge.

Yesterday Iro was chilling out in her cage. As is normal I went to the fridge and took a step back. My arm touched the side of the cage, ever so gently. This has never ever been a problem before, and even with these issues its been localised to my hands only, the rest of me is still OK.

Iro was suddenly across the cage, her beak buried in my elbow. She proceeded to tear out a small chunk of my flesh, then eat it.

I'm about done, guys.

uglynoodles fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Apr 12, 2014

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie
Aside from the biting it sounds like you just don't have a good living situation for a bird. I'd look into re-homing.

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

Bung Harmer posted:

Aside from the biting it sounds like you just don't have a good living situation for a bird. I'd look into re-homing.

Ehhh I wouldn't jump to that conclusion. Could you perhaps start target training iro with a chopstick from outside the cage? Does iro still respond to treats? Perhaps you could turn the tables and make it fun again to interact with you.

uglynoodles
May 28, 2009


Bung Harmer posted:

Aside from the biting it sounds like you just don't have a good living situation for a bird. I'd look into re-homing.

I've had Iro for more than a year and this behaviour has started in the past few weeks. She's not a new addition to the household.

The apartment is a small, two room apartment and the kitchen and living room are essentially one thing. That room is where all activity in the house is, and where the bird is. It's a small apartment but Green Cheek Conures don't need much space. She's not a macaw or something.

I work from home and go to university 3 times a week. Most of the time I'm about 7 feet from the bird. It used to be less, as the only other viable place in the house is right next to my computer, but pellet bits, tossed water containers and feathers don't play well with PCs.

My living situation is fine. It's just this behaviour that's cropped up that's caused me to be so upset. I just want to know that it's going to pass, because having your bird who's been a great buddy for the past long while suddenly turn into a lovely vicious rear end in a top hat is depressing, especially when it involves actually for real eating your freshly hewn flesh.

As for Sanchez, yeah she does take treats. She interacts with my boyfriend fine. She interacts with me fine if I'm wearing gloves. I have to be wearing them though or else she attacks.

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

uglynoodles posted:

My living situation is fine. It's just this behaviour that's cropped up that's caused me to be so upset. I just want to know that it's going to pass, because having your bird who's been a great buddy for the past long while suddenly turn into a lovely vicious rear end in a top hat is depressing, especially when it involves actually for real eating your freshly hewn flesh.

As for Sanchez, yeah she does take treats. She interacts with my boyfriend fine. She interacts with me fine if I'm wearing gloves. I have to be wearing them though or else she attacks.

It'll definitely pass. From what I've read, a lot of birds in two+ person households who go through puberty will try to disassociate themselves from their primary caretaker (their "parent" figure) and latch onto somebody else (their "new crush") as they transition into adulthood. The bond can absolutely be reforged as the bird's hormones settle but it requires patience and ways to keep the little bird brain busy (target or trick training is supposed to be great for that), as well as having the favorite person do all the not-fun stuff like toenail clipping and caging the bird at night, while the person the bird is rebuffing is in charge of treats and training/playtime.

Battle Pigeon
Nov 7, 2011

I am dancing potato
give me millet


As someone living in a similar small apartment with an rear end in a top hat GCC, who used to respond to people in exactly that way (right down to trying to attacking people through the bars if they were near the cage or touching it)... it's manageable, and it gets better. It just takes time and a lot of patience. We've had Inko since... September? Don't remember, but he still doesn't like hands and will resort to biting if he feels the need. But, now he won't attack me if I gently caress around with his cage, or in it, he'll instantly step up on a perch, he can be persuaded to sit nicely on my arm or in my lap for a bit. I've no idea of his age, but if he was the youngest he could have been when we got him, he should be going through it now too. Puberty sucks and it's no coincidence so many parrots get dumped when they hit that age and become hormonal assholes. It (obviously) doesn't last forever though, and it's such a small part of their overall life.

It's okay if you don't feel like taking her out and trying to interact that day. Sometimes it's better for both of you to have some space and time to yourself. As long as she has things in her cage to play with (regardless of whether she does), just let her get on with it for a while. Maybe even board her somewhere for a week or two, or let a friend look after her for that time, if you really feel like you need time and space away. I know it must be incredibly lovely right now, especially when you had a good bird before, but really consider if you do want to rehome her, or you're just super frustrated at the situation now. Would you be okay with it taking potentially weeks or months for her to calm down again? Would you be okay with it if she was a mostly hands off bird? If you always had to wear gloves (doubtful though)? Or only ever liked your boyfriend? Or, if she flipped and loved you but hated him? I do think though, that her being a GCC, and it being puberty time, that things will eventually pass.

You can still interact via talking or giving treats through the bars of the cage. Could be a good opportunity to teach her to make other sounds instead of screaming, if that's an issue. If you do want to take her out, you can use sticks/perches instead of trying to use body parts. Maybe get one of those perches that has the plastic barrier to stop her getting to your hands.

uglynoodles
May 28, 2009


She likes to play call and response games with me still and wants me around. We've taught her to make silly beeping or pyonging noises rather than screaming by only echoing back noises we like. She really only screams when we go to the bathroom (out of her sight) or when we leave the house. Or if she sees a particular cupboard open. God drat she hates that one cupboard.

I'll see where she's at in a few weeks, if she's any better. She'll come out on perch but we only have an unused dowel perch for that so she can get to my hand. I'll have to look out for one if the guarded or T shaped ones. She'll come out on my hands if I'm gloved. She keeps trying to get up to my shoulder like old times but I'm not letting her because quite frankly she doesn't deserve it yet. Not after that biting my ear incident that started the whole thing off.

I'm just going to have to wait and see. I'm trying really hard not to be angry at her but it can be hard when there's a hole in my arm and she's literally eating my flesh.

The boyfriend has been put in charge of unfun stuff and is under strict orders to fuss the bird less. He hates it because he's obsessed with the bird but yeah.

Opera Bitch
Sep 28, 2004

Let me lull you to sleep with my sweet song!

UglyNoodles have you considering taking Iro to the vet to see if there is something physically wrong that might be causing the change in behavior? An avian vet or bird specialist would probably have better insight advice on why this behavior change is happening and ways to stop it. If there is a bird rescue/re-homing organization in you area they would probably be a good place to go to as well.

Shark Sandwich
Sep 6, 2010

by R. Guyovich
I'm on vacation in Paris and I've got a good birdsitter (who is not cheap!) and I think the birds on vacation too. I've used him a few times and he's the only other male Charlie likes and he spoils the hell out of my birds.

Karma Comedian
Feb 2, 2012

Slaughterhouse-Ive posted:

I'm on vacation in Paris and I've got a good birdsitter (who is not cheap!) and I think the birds on vacation too. I've used him a few times and he's the only other male Charlie likes and he spoils the hell out of my birds.

My Charlie took a look good long bath and then we had a cuddle/nap session to a movie on netflix. It was pretty great.

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007
I went to Magnuson Park here in Seattle today with some friends, and brought Auri with me. She loved it. Making happy and excited sounds and body language most of the time.

I had my camera with me because I was taking pictures of wild birds (look in the Dorkroom Bird thread for those photos) and I took some pictures of Auri. :3:



Chaosfeather
Nov 4, 2008

uglynoodles posted:

Aggressive Iro

I'm nthing the specialty vet, if you can afford it. Ivan was at his absolute worst about a year ago and I think I posted about it on here. The specialist determined it was hormonal and gave him a long-lasting injection to help us out. It took a few weeks to fully kick in and he wasn't entirely 'safe' even after that, but it got us out of the really rough patch and back into training proper, which was great. Nothing was quite as bad as him lunging for my face out of the blue.

If that's out of your price range just hang in there the best you can.

Eejit
Mar 6, 2007

Swiss Army Cockatoo
Cacatua multitoolii

Kenshin posted:

I went to Magnuson Park here in Seattle today with some friends, and brought Auri with me. She loved it. Making happy and excited sounds and body language most of the time.

I had my camera with me because I was taking pictures of wild birds (look in the Dorkroom Bird thread for those photos) and I took some pictures of Auri. :3:





Agh, she's still amazing. We had a very excitable lady over today and Teeka went basically insane, fearful to imagine him in a park. Are her wings clipped? I assume otherwise she'd be in a harness. Just curious obviously, not judging, I'm sure you have the situation under control.

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007

Eejit posted:

Agh, she's still amazing. We had a very excitable lady over today and Teeka went basically insane, fearful to imagine him in a park. Are her wings clipped? I assume otherwise she'd be in a harness. Just curious obviously, not judging, I'm sure you have the situation under control.
Yeah, her wings are clipped, and she clung to me the entire time without any issues or spooking. There were even dogs around in the park.

Eejit
Mar 6, 2007

Swiss Army Cockatoo
Cacatua multitoolii

That's awesome, she looks really excited to be out and about.

Shark Sandwich
Sep 6, 2010

by R. Guyovich
I was at the bird market that happens every Sunday near Notre Dame. There were a few crappy breeders but most birds looked healthy and were tame. There was a Lovebird and what looked like a tiny quail or something that were sharing a cage because they were BFFs. There was even a sign saying they had to be sold together because of that. :3:

WorldWarWonderful
Jul 15, 2004
Eh?
It's amazing how much of an impact direct sunlight makes on a bird's plumage. When I take my normally dull-looking cockatiels out they seem to shine.

raven4267
May 7, 2009
My wife and I have been thinking about getting a cockatiel. I grew up with many different pet birds such as cockatiels, lovebirds, conures, and african greys and I really miss having a bird around. The issue I have is that we have a house cat. How feasible would it be to have a pet bird as well as a cat who seems to have very keen predatory instincts?

Is it asking for trouble trying to keep a cat away from a pet bird? We also have a dog as well, but I don't think I need to be as worried about the dog trying to kill the bird as I would with the cat. There is no way we would ever consider getting rid of the cat so if it would be too difficult, I guess we will have to wait awhile to get a bird :(.

Lata jie
Oct 23, 2008
Grimey Drawer
It can be done. I"d suggest being able to keep the bird/birds in a different room during the night than where the cat has access to.

I have a cat and 2 budgies, the cat I got when she was a year old, and had a thing for birds. 2 years later, with LOTS of patience, it's now safe to leave bird cage and cat in the same room without being around to 'supervise' But the first few weeks were interesting to say the least.

As for free-flying birds and cat in the same room... you'll have to watch the cat constantly and personally, I prefer to kick the cat out before the birds get to fly around.

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007

raven4267 posted:

My wife and I have been thinking about getting a cockatiel. I grew up with many different pet birds such as cockatiels, lovebirds, conures, and african greys and I really miss having a bird around. The issue I have is that we have a house cat. How feasible would it be to have a pet bird as well as a cat who seems to have very keen predatory instincts?

Is it asking for trouble trying to keep a cat away from a pet bird? We also have a dog as well, but I don't think I need to be as worried about the dog trying to kill the bird as I would with the cat. There is no way we would ever consider getting rid of the cat so if it would be too difficult, I guess we will have to wait awhile to get a bird :(.

Get a larger parrot like an Amazon and let it bully the cat?

Lenswork
Mar 27, 2010
I live with birds and cats together. The advice I'm about to give it's completely anecdotal and you will always be the best judge of what is safe. With that said, this is my experience.

The key is really in whether or not your bird acts like prey. Both my birds are clipped and do not fly around the house. Neither bird reacts when a cat gets in their face. In fact, the birds often bite the cats and get extremely jealous if everyone is trying to cuddle at night at once. The first few weeks were interesting, watching the cats size up the birds and figure out what was up. The cats seem to have come to the conclusion that the birds are strange cat-like creatures that are not to be messed with, but not so scary that everyone doesn't still try to fit in my lap at the same time. I supervise them together at all times, but I'm relaxed about it these days.

It helps that my birds are just big enough to avoid tripping the cats' prey drive without provocation.

Edit: essentially beaten to the punch in a much more concise fashion!

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007

Lenswork posted:

Edit: essentially beaten to the punch in a much more concise fashion!

Well, you at least explained!

In my (very limited!) experience with my amazon parrot Auri and a friend's cat when I bought her over, the cat was very, very curious and kept getting closer and closer... until he got a bit too close and Auri spread her wings and lunged her beak at him. He fell over backwards and spent the rest of the afternoon hiding under the bed.

Karma Comedian
Feb 2, 2012

Jack chased my new cat down biting at its paws, and Charlie bit its tail fluff and didn't let go. JJ was more subtle in that she dumped her water bowl out on its head.

The cat doesn't mess with the birds.

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007

Wizard of Smart posted:

Jack chased my new cat down biting at its paws, and Charlie bit its tail fluff and didn't let go. JJ was more subtle in that she dumped her water bowl out on its head.

The cat doesn't mess with the birds.

My god I love your birds

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Olothreutes
Mar 31, 2007

We have two cats, one with a high prey drive, and an amazon. They do not bother the bird at all. She's an especially ornery amazon anyway, but the closest the high prey drive cat has gotten is trying to touch the bird's tail when the bird is otherwise occupied. It's almost always resulted in a ton of loud noises and the bird attempting to bite the cat. We don't have any issues with them (other than one of the cats eating the bird's pellets...) being unsupervised around one another. From my understanding the bird has been around cats before so she probably learned how to deal with them then I suppose. I don't know much about her beyond the last three or so years and she's probably pushing thirty at this point.

This might not be so true for a smaller bird, but there you have my experience.

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