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Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Hey, the bathroom followup line is pretty funny.

The rest makes me hope he wins the primary.

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Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
By the way, he's since not-pologized and said that he's going to reach out to black voters who he plays basketball with all the time.

quote:

Given some of his racially-tinged remarks, how would he be able to reach out to African-American voters? "I reach out to them because they are fellow Mississippians. I love them," McDaniel told me. "They're my friends. They're my neighbors. They're who I went to school with. They're who I played basketball with. They're wonderful human beings." People shouldn't be treated as "racial collectives" but rather as "individuals," McDaniel said, adding: "I reject racism in all its forms."

Though I'm guessing there weren't too many black voters at the League of the South rallies he keeps speaking at and forgetting.

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax
drat it, this stuff is supposed to come out AFTER the primary.

NoEyedSquareGuy
Mar 16, 2009

Just because Liquor's dead, doesn't mean you can just roll this bitch all over town with "The Freedoms."
Really hoping someone asks him to name one of his many black friends.

Your Gay Uncle
Feb 16, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
So if there is a complication with pregnancy, and delivering the baby would create a potentially life threatening situation for the mother, is she allowed to Stand Her Ground and shoot the fetus?

Stunning Honky
Sep 7, 2004

" . . . "
Can someone with archives please take some screenshots of the thread where the goon (God I can't remember his name, started with an S maybe?) argued that if you are okay with abortion as the baby is not alive until birth, you should theoretically be able to gently caress a baby that's halfway through being delivered?

AKA the Best Thread Ever

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

I'm pretty sure you can't legally abort a baby halfway through delivery.

Stunning Honky
Sep 7, 2004

" . . . "
You had to be there

cafel
Mar 29, 2010

This post is hurting the economy!

VitalSigns posted:

I'm pretty sure you can't legally abort a baby halfway through delivery.

I guess you haven't been paying attention to Obama's America.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

VitalSigns posted:

I'm pretty sure you can't legally abort a baby halfway through delivery.

Right but you can gently caress it was the point I think.

Mecca-Benghazi
Mar 31, 2012


What? :psyduck: You mean gently caress as in have sex with? What kind of segue did that involve?

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES
That is both the craziest and dumbest argument I've ever seen.


Mecca-Benghazi posted:

What? :psyduck: You mean gently caress as in have sex with? What kind of segue did that involve?

I'd guess it was just the unsolicited opining of an unsocialized moron.

Swan Oat
Oct 9, 2012

I was selected for my skill.

NoEyedSquareGuy posted:

Really hoping someone asks him to name one of his many black friends.

LeBron... Dwyane... that guy who looks like a dinosaur. They are my black friends, that I play basketball with. Those are their names. Not the NBA players though. You're the racist for thinking I was naming NBA players.

Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008

trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump

mooyashi posted:

Can someone with archives please take some screenshots of the thread where the goon (God I can't remember his name, started with an S maybe?) argued that if you are okay with abortion as the baby is not alive until birth, you should theoretically be able to gently caress a baby that's halfway through being delivered?

AKA the Best Thread Ever

The turdicken

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

In case you missed it the New Yorker did a follow-up on that little bit of business in West Virginia that might have possibly poisoned more than three hundred thousand people over there, that little brouhaha. First a bit of background.

quote:

he spill struck a state in the throes of one of America’s most thorough political transformations. Once a Democratic stronghold, West Virginia has moved so far to the right that, in 2012, President Obama lost all fifty-five counties, a first for a Presidential candidate of either major party. In the Democratic Presidential primary, a challenger had won forty-one per cent of the vote—impressive in part because the candidate, Keith Judd, is serving seventeen and a half years in a federal prison for extortion.

The state has become a standard-bearer for pro-business, limited-government conservatism. The day before the chemical spill, the governor, Earl Ray Tomblin, delivered his State of the State address, criticizing federal environmental regulators and vowing, “I will never back down from the E.P.A., because of its misguided policies on coal.” Tomblin, a conservative Democrat elected in 2011, cut corporate taxes and denounced the federal government for overstepping its authority. To balance the budget, he tapped other government funds and called for broad cuts, including reducing agency spending by seventy million dollars. For the second consecutive year, West Virginia’s Department of Environmental Protection would take a 7.5-per-cent cut in state funds, dropping to its lowest level since 2008.

At first, Freedom Industries estimated the leak to be as small as twenty-five hundred gallons, about sixty barrels. Within days, the estimate had tripled. Eventually, the company raised it to ten thousand gallons, and reported that a second chemical, known as PPH, had leaked as well. At 6 p.m., the Governor appeared on television and issued a warning unprecedented in Chemical Valley: he told three hundred thousand people that their tap water was not safe for “drinking, cooking, washing, or bathing.” It was one of the most serious incidents of chemical contamination of drinking water in American history.

And what's been the response?

quote:

Evan Hansen, an environmental consultant who has testified about the leak before the West Virginia legislature, has tracked the cumulative effect of that objective throughout the government. “In the past ten or fifteen years, they’ve systematically weakened virtually all the major water-quality standards that apply to the coal industry,” he said. “One by one, there’s been a steady effort to undermine the implementation of environmental laws, to the point that it’s become a part of everyday normal life here.”

But the Freedom Industries spill exceeded the public’s capacity for tolerance. Governor Tomblin announced that his office would propose legislation—the “spill bill,” as it was known—to govern aboveground storage tanks of the kind that leaked at Freedom Industries. To understand who had a hand in creating the bill, Ken Ward, Jr., of the Gazette, filed a Freedom of Information Act request for communications between the Governor’s office and lobbyists and lawyers connected to the chemical and coal industries. He received a hundred and fifty-eight pages of e-mails and documents. They revealed that the Governor’s office had arranged a closed-door meeting for what it called “the stakeholders,” which included the Chamber of Commerce, the Oil and Gas Association, and the Coal Association. No citizens’ groups or environmental organizations were invited.

Later, industry groups sent detailed notes on the bill. Rebecca Randolph, the president of the West Virginia Manufacturers Association, which lobbies on behalf of the chemical industry, proposed eighteen exemptions to the law that would “address some of our concerns.” Eventually, when lawmakers held a hearing to review the bill, regulators were unable to justify some of the exemptions. “They didn’t have any idea why things were in there,” Ward said. “It’s so ingrained in the way the legislature works that most of the people that cover the State House are kind of immune to how outrageous that is.”

This behavior is hardly unique.

quote:

Over the years, Ward had witnessed other demonstrations of the coal industry’s penetration of state government. He once received a copy of a script that lobbyists had written to help a legislator introduce a rule change on water pollution. It read, in part, “We must be sure that our standards are protective of our streams without being overly protective.” In the most brazen example, ten years ago, Don Blankenship, the chairman of Massey Energy, which was America’s fourth-largest coal company, sought to reshape the politics of the West Virginia Supreme Court shortly before it took up Massey’s appeal of a fifty-million-dollar judgment for fraud and interfering with a contract. Blankenship had broken the mine workers’ union during a strike in 1985 and still kept, near his desk, a television that had been shattered by a bullet that came through his office window. Judges in West Virginia are elected, not appointed, and in 2004 Blankenship spent more than three million dollars to promote a conservative candidate named Brent Benjamin, who was vying to be the first Republican on the Supreme Court in seventy-six years. Most of the money went to a political-action committee that was running ads accusing Justice Warren McGraw, a progressive, of being soft on child molestation and drugs. Blankenship’s candidate won, and provided the decisive vote that overturned the judgment against Blankenship’s company. The U.S. Supreme Court eventually said that Benjamin should have recused himself from the case, on the ground that Blankenship had a “disproportionate influence in placing the judge on the case.”

quote:

The Democrat John Unger, a pastor and former Rhodes Scholar who serves as the majority leader in the state Senate, told me that he has identified three steps by which lobbyists win the coöperation of his peers. “First, they try to wine and dine you. Then they try to set you up. And then they try to threaten you.”

Set you up? I asked.

“Set you up in the sense of getting something on you so that you become beholden to them,” he said. “Back when I was a freshman, I stayed at the Marriott during the legislative session. And they would send people up to your room and knock on the door.” He continued, “When I looked out the peephole and saw who it was, I’d call down to security and say, ‘Someone’s lost, they’re knocking on my door.’ Then I moved out.”

Unger recalled the first time that a lobbyist for a chemical company asked him to vote on a bill. “I said, ‘I don’t sign on to anything until I read it.’ And he said, ‘Well, that’s not the way it works around here.’ I said, ‘Well, I don’t know how it works down here, but that’s the way I work.’ And he said, ‘Well, if you don’t learn to get along, when it comes to your reëlection, we’ll stick a fork in you.’ And I looked at him and said, ‘Sir, with no due disrespect to you, but you weren’t for me when I got elected, and I got elected!’ ”

For those who are uncoöperative, the results can be swift. In 2012, a coal-industry lobbyist asked Larry Barker, who was the chair of the House Energy, Industry, and Labor Committee, to advance an industry-backed bill out of his committee. Barker declined, and the meeting adjourned. Afterward, Barker told me, a lobbyist “walks over and crowded me with his shoulder, kind of back to the corner, where there was nobody there but me and him. And I’m looking up at him, and I said, ‘What is it?’ And he said, ‘What’s it going to take for you to run our bill?’ And I said, ‘I want to look it over. I want to let the attorney look at it, I want the union to look it over.’ He said, ‘This is the last meeting. You can call a special meeting and put this bill on there.’ And I said, ‘Well, now, why do you think I would do that?’ He said, ‘Because we want it.’ We, meaning the coal industry. ‘We want it. Period.’ I said, ‘Well, we’ve reached a deadline. If I’m still here next year in this same position, if this is a good bill, I promise you I’ll run it in the first meeting next year.’ He looked me in the eye and he said, ‘That will be too late for you.’ And he turned and walked out, and I never heard from anybody else in the coal companies after that.” That fall, a first-time candidate backed by the coal industry challenged Barker and defeated him.

To read more about a state where income inequality and a panicked, politically focused, and well monied elite have gained power, leading to almost no streams free of contaminants and near misses that would have eclipsed the Bhopal disaster (and the amazing fact that the original owner of Freedom Industries is an actual honest to god convicted coke dealer), go here: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2014/04/07/140407fa_fact_osnos?currentPage=all

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Now that Obama's destroyed the dignity of the Presidency with his between-two-fernsing, everyone's getting in on being undignified.

quote:

“Former presidents compare their libraries the way other men may compare their, well …,” Bush said to laughs.

Bush said he wondered how the famously profane LBJ “would have handled that.”

“He was a funny guy at times.”

Gygaxian
May 29, 2013
So there's an investment banker running as an Elizabeth Warren-esque populist for New York State Assembly.

quote:


.....

“Reactionary forces are strong,” he told his neighbors from New York’s affluent Upper East Side, their forks and knives clinking as they ate mushroom tart. “But the progressive side is stronger. And both time and right are on our side.”

Christensen didn’t quit banking just to head a local political club. With investors Tom Perkins and Ken Langone comparing the battle against inequality to Nazism, the language they despise is fueling the 42-year-old’s nascent campaign for New York State Assembly, a job that pays $79,500 a year. Money from working two decades on Wall Street will help fund his mutiny against some of its treasured principles.

In his dinner speech, Christensen’s voice lurched and swelled to find the rhythm of the pulpit. He preached stronger rights for workers and women, tougher regulation, cheaper housing and “progress on inequality itself.”
Ayn Rand

....

Christensen, once a JPMorgan derivatives trader and a Goldman Sachs Group Inc. (GS) banker who worked on casino deals, mocked the vanity of Ayn Rand novels financiers adore, put his minimum-wage goal at $15 an hour and praised Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren’s efforts to curb the banks that once paid him.


....

December was his last month on Wall Street. In mid-January he disclosed contributions of $145,000 on top of a $250,000 loan he made to his nascent campaign. By the end of March his full name, Gustavus Adolphus Henry Christensen IV, was grist for a fake Twitter feed whose icon is the mustachioed Monopoly man. The page calls him a “Gazillionaire banker.”

Even friends and colleagues who support his decision to give up banking have asked why he doesn’t want to go to Washington, or why he would want to become a politician.

“The laws that affect our day-to-day lives as New Yorkers most are laws that are written in Albany,” Christensen said.

....

He wants to fund programs for the poor by raising taxes on the rich, expand New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio’s push for universal prekindergarten to daycare, release thousands of nonviolent drug offenders from prison and boost the minimum wage and tax credits.
Any NY goons know anything about this guy? He seems to be an interesting character, even if he's just pandering.

Also, his name is Gustavus Adolphus Henry Christensen IV, which is awesome.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

mooyashi posted:

Can someone with archives please take some screenshots of the thread where the goon (God I can't remember his name, started with an S maybe?) argued that if you are okay with abortion as the baby is not alive until birth, you should theoretically be able to gently caress a baby that's halfway through being delivered?

AKA the Best Thread Ever

That sounds like something StarMagician would say. Possibly SedanChair if he was in possession of a particularly intense batch of meth.

Stunning Honky
Sep 7, 2004

" . . . "
ReindeerF will eventually get around to this thread to jog my memory. D&D in the early aughts was a weird place, with actual Republicans and Bush supporters bouncing around, and "libertarianism" was a term that still needed explaining.

BUSH 2112
Sep 17, 2012

I lie awake, staring out at the bleakness of Megadon.

mooyashi posted:

ReindeerF will eventually get around to this thread to jog my memory. D&D in the early aughts was a weird place, with actual Republicans and Bush supporters bouncing around, and "libertarianism" was a term that still needed explaining.

Haha yeah, it used to be weird as hell. I bought my first account in 2002, and I couldn't believe how many conservatives there were when I beelined for D&D (because I'm "that guy"). Those halcyon days before the R:evil:ution.

eviltastic
Feb 8, 2004

Fan of Britches
Remember anything else? I've got archives but not search. Is there even archives search anymore? I agree it sounds like way far back. I cruised the sex-tagged threads and didn't see anything like it in abortion or rape-related threads, and there were several.

I did find out that deleted users exist (The Artificial Kid and Dolex), though. Didn't know that was a thing.

Aves Maria!
Jul 26, 2008

Maybe I'll drown

Gygaxian posted:

Any NY goons know anything about this guy? He seems to be an interesting character, even if he's just pandering.

I can't answer your question, but if a rich guy wants to jump on the progressive bandwagon then I'm not going to stop him. Even if it just comes down to him seeing the writing on the wall, it is better that he fight for the progressive cause than status quo New York liberal policy.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

eviltastic posted:

Remember anything else? I've got archives but not search. Is there even archives search anymore? I agree it sounds like way far back. I cruised the sex-tagged threads and didn't see anything like it in abortion or rape-related threads, and there were several.

Were you around when the libertarian Puppy Brigade was still in action?

Stunning Honky
Sep 7, 2004

" . . . "
SCRUBBER! Motherfucker's name was Scrubber.

Gygaxian
May 29, 2013

Wildlife Analysis posted:

I can't answer your question, but if a rich guy wants to jump on the progressive bandwagon then I'm not going to stop him. Even if it just comes down to him seeing the writing on the wall, it is better that he fight for the progressive cause than status quo New York liberal policy.

Yeah, it's genuinely exciting that those who want power think that advocating progressive populism is the way to go.

Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

Listen here, funnyman!

mooyashi posted:

ReindeerF will eventually get around to this thread to jog my memory. D&D in the early aughts was a weird place, with actual Republicans and Bush supporters bouncing around, and "libertarianism" was a term that still needed explaining.

Ah yes, I rememeber. D&D was pretty liberal in that "oh, gently caress Bush" was very popular (throughout his whole term) so you had many openly conservative and libertarian posters say "we do not identify with the current Republican party" then go on with their usual talking points. The actual Republicans or Bush supporters did post here, but kept it under their hats, and if they revealed themselves they often had to explain themselves.

Then Ron Paul 2008 happened and hoooly poo poo did the libertarian posters here go psychotic and either got banned or driven out by everyone of any political stripe. D&D (and SA as a whole to be honest) shifted HARD to the left and it's been like that ever since. You used to always see a "well, poor people just have to work harder!" type post in many a thread back in like 2006 that caused debate and not derails. Now, don't even.

eviltastic
Feb 8, 2004

Fan of Britches

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Were you around when the libertarian Puppy Brigade was still in action?

Yeah and I still think McCaine was a good mod :colbert:

mooyashi posted:

SCRUBBER! Motherfucker's name was Scrubber.

Theeeeere we go. Via a helldump thread:

quote:

Well we all know what so called partial birth abortions are.

So imagine if you will, a new, hypothetical crime.

Partial birth fetal rape. Raping the fetus when it's part way out of the mother, and hence still a fetus and not yet a baby.

I think we will mostly agree that partial birth fetal rape seems like it should be a crime. And certainly, if the raped fetus were to survive and become a human he could sue his rapist if he suffered permanent damage from the attack. But, thats unlikely to become a deterrent to partial birth fetal rape, since with the mother's permission the rapist can simply abort the fetus after raping it, saving himself future law suits.

So, my questions to those who support so called partial birth abortions are:

-Should so called partial birth fetal rape be a crime? (Sure seems like it)

-If partial birth fetal rape should be a crime, how can you justify making it one? If a fetus has rights, killing it is a crime, as is raping it. If a fetus has no rights, neither killing, nor raping it is a crime. And it seems absurdly arbitrary to say a fetus has no right to live, but it has a right to not be raped.

As a supporter of the legality of abortion/infanticide, this issue seems troubling to me. Do we have to support keeping partial birth fetal rape legal in order to be consistent?

Couldn't find a link to the actual thread, but I'm thinking (hoping?) that was the money shot regardless.

eviltastic fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Apr 12, 2014

World War Mammories
Aug 25, 2006


eviltastic posted:

quote:

(words about raping fetuses)

...I'm thinking (hoping?) that was the money shot regardless.

I feel like this is a wonderfully poor choice of words.

eviltastic
Feb 8, 2004

Fan of Britches
Not by comparison!

Fruity Rudy
Oct 8, 2008

Taste The Rainbow!

mooyashi posted:

SCRUBBER! Motherfucker's name was Scrubber.

I miss the weirdos. We might have known each other in a former life.

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

Gygaxian posted:

Also, his name is Gustavus Adolphus Henry Christensen IV, which is awesome.
And here I thought my real name was obnoxious, wow.

Clearly where I'm lacking is the second middle name department.

shrike82
Jun 11, 2005

I don't think SA shifted left so much as the lf posters were driven out from their sanctuary into d&d.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

shrike82 posted:

I don't think SA shifted left so much as the lf posters were driven out from their sanctuary into d&d.

Yeah, the closing of LF pushed D&D left in a big way.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro

mooyashi posted:

SCRUBBER! Motherfucker's name was Scrubber.
Man, I was just about to switch and reply, but I wanted to check the last page. That was the thread where I got to also detail my theory that in utero rape porn was probably the final frontier of internet porn given how hosed up the internet is. I think I also mentioned wound sex, but then someone found it :(

Scrubber was one of the most likable conservative trolls because he was actually funny. His avatar is still hilarious, MLK with a red filter and a hammer and sickle with the words, "HE HAD ANOTHER DREAM" under it.

Justin Godscock posted:

Ah yes, I rememeber. D&D was pretty liberal in that "oh, gently caress Bush" was very popular (throughout his whole term) so you had many openly conservative and libertarian posters say "we do not identify with the current Republican party" then go on with their usual talking points. The actual Republicans or Bush supporters did post here, but kept it under their hats, and if they revealed themselves they often had to explain themselves.
In the early days part of the forum was openly Republican for a couple of years, really. Even when it turned all "well I'm a libertarian" you still had self-proclaimed ubertarians like VoR blowing up and screaming "In a time of war if you do not shut the gently caress up and get in line behind the President then you should be tried for treason!!!!" or whatever. Only Calenth (since reformed) and Remedy (since prosecuted) and a couple of others really toed the libertarian line with finesse.

Of course, yeah, later is changed, but that leads us to...

Pope Guilty posted:

Yeah, the closing of LF pushed D&D left in a big way.
The D&D thread in, I think, HD2K was where that started, but sometime about halfway through LF is when they began a campaign to troll D&D leftward. I recall a couple of prominent LF people talking about it in IRC. When LF closed they all just poured back in, so it magnified the effect. Thankfully most of the real screeching idiot libertarians and lefties are gone lately. It's actually possible to enjoy D&D again.

Mostly what happened is that D&D aged and a lot of the already-older posters who had been early internet libertarians simply left, while the younger libertarians often went hardcore the other way as they hit late high school or university and some aging libertarians just progressed into the working world and lost their taste for the house of cards that is libertarianism. Then we sort of internationalized in the process, inexplicably, which turned things completely on their head (mostly in a good way). Imagining multiple [COUNTRY] Megathreads in D&D 12-13 years ago is impossible. Imagining the threads of today is too.

It's hard to remember sometimes that this place has been around for 13 years. That's 5-6% of a lifetime and a lot of people have gone through huge life changes during that time that, as with any normal person, radically affect their views.

:krakken:

ReindeerF fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Apr 12, 2014

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
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Clapping Larry

radical meme posted:

Whatever the date is, South Carolina is determined to be the first state to give that little guy the right to Stand his Ground.


The logical next step would be to permit someone other than the pregnant mother to use deadly force to defend the zygote, or maybe first move to allow any pregnant woman to defend any unborn child.

My fiancée is currently the only person trying to stop this from making it to law. It's a horrible combination of classic progressive problems:

She's a state level organization so six weeks ago when this bill first became a thing, she reached out to ALL of her national partners for assistance because their specialty is teen pregnancy and they have little grounding in gun rights. Not one of her partners, domestic violence groups, the NAACP, minority outreach no one, got back to her. Because here in gosh darn South Carolina we just don't matter on a national stage.

Now that she's invoked the "Stand Your Ground" verbiage (literally, that's all this is about, the words), every one of these organizations is making GBS threads on her for various reasons. She's been accused of being a white woman co opting the black community's struggle. They started the campaign today and already they're taking flak, but frankly, nobody helped her out a month ago, and she couldn't just not try something, so this is what she came up with. I think it's fine, and she's gotten crazy support from our local advocates and such, so I'm pretty proud of the attention it's gotten (FINALLY).

Been a helluva legislative session here in the second worst state in the union. Thanks Mississippi, you've always got our back.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

Stew Man Chew posted:


Been a helluva legislative session here in the second worst state in the union. Thanks Mississippi, you've always got our back.

Surely we're better than Alabama?

Seriously though, wouldn't further efforts to make access to abortion more difficult (that's what this is really about, right?) negatively affect black communities as well? It seems insane to me for people to complain about that.

paragon1 fucked around with this message at 06:21 on Apr 12, 2014

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

ReindeerF posted:

Of course, yeah, later is changed, but that leads us to...
The D&D thread in, I think, HD2K was where that started, but sometime about halfway through LF is when they began a campaign to troll D&D leftward. I recall a couple of prominent LF people talking about it in IRC.

One of the LF quotes that I remember best was some user asking an LF moderator for permission to troll D&D using the phrasing "our posts shall fall into D&D like qassams."

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

paragon1 posted:

Surely we're better than Alabama?

Not on the field :c00l:

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Stew Man Chew posted:

My fiancée is currently the only person trying to stop this from making it to law. It's a horrible combination of classic progressive problems:

She's a state level organization so six weeks ago when this bill first became a thing, she reached out to ALL of her national partners for assistance because their specialty is teen pregnancy and they have little grounding in gun rights. Not one of her partners, domestic violence groups, the NAACP, minority outreach no one, got back to her. Because here in gosh darn South Carolina we just don't matter on a national stage.

Now that she's invoked the "Stand Your Ground" verbiage (literally, that's all this is about, the words), every one of these organizations is making GBS threads on her for various reasons. She's been accused of being a white woman co opting the black community's struggle. They started the campaign today and already they're taking flak, but frankly, nobody helped her out a month ago, and she couldn't just not try something, so this is what she came up with. I think it's fine, and she's gotten crazy support from our local advocates and such, so I'm pretty proud of the attention it's gotten (FINALLY).

Been a helluva legislative session here in the second worst state in the union. Thanks Mississippi, you've always got our back.

I think your girlfriend is going to grow up to be an angry conservative woman one day after she is driven insane and tells all those groups to go gently caress themselves for being dumb as hell.

Shageletic posted:

In case you missed it the New Yorker did a follow-up on that little bit of business in West Virginia that might have possibly poisoned more than three hundred thousand people over there, that little brouhaha. First a bit of background.


And what's been the response?


This behavior is hardly unique.



To read more about a state where income inequality and a panicked, politically focused, and well monied elite have gained power, leading to almost no streams free of contaminants and near misses that would have eclipsed the Bhopal disaster (and the amazing fact that the original owner of Freedom Industries is an actual honest to god convicted coke dealer), go here: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2014/04/07/140407fa_fact_osnos?currentPage=all

West Virgina being owned by coal companies would be funny if it wasn't just a window in to the future for the rest of the country.

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paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
nevermind

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