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thelightguy posted:No, only that XP mode on windows 7/whatever ever VM you choose to use doesn't meet his arbitrary standard of being able to open a 16-bit app from a random directory on the hard disk. Got it. I was wondering why I was so confused. Install Windows posted:No, not at all? I don't see what's so hard to understand about the fact that to run them in conventional VMs, you must first actually place what you want to run inside the VM, which means you can't just extract some windows 3.1 application to a folder on your 64 bit computer and then double click it to run it. Who is this info suppose to be for? I can't follow why anything needed to be seemless.
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Install Windows posted:Not having to install an entire second OS and move everything you want to run into there first i.e. have it run the way 16 bit applications ran in XP/32 bit Vista/7/8. Okay maybe I missed it but what and why are you running 16 bit applications in the year 2014?
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Dilbert As gently caress posted:Okay maybe I missed it but what and why are you running 16 bit applications in the year 2014? I'm not, I'm saying if WINE on Windows ever got into a workable state it would allow that!
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Dilbert As gently caress posted:Okay maybe I missed it but what and why are you running 16 bit applications in the year 2014? Because the Federal Government would still use slideshow projectors for training if the slides were not literally burning out and windows 3.1 if there was still support available for it
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Install Windows posted:I'm not, I'm saying if WINE on Windows ever got into a workable state it would allow that! Is there even a market space for that?
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Install Windows posted:No, not at all? I don't see what's so hard to understand about the fact that to run them in conventional VMs, you must first actually place what you want to run inside the VM, which means you can't just extract some windows 3.1 application to a folder on your 64 bit computer and then double click it to run it. Are you sure the issue is 16 bit? One of the problems I remember from trying to run 16 bit programs was actually long filenames, try installing it on c:\crap and doing the right-click compatibility settings.
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Apr 11, 2014 20:05
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Dilbert As gently caress posted:Is there even a market space for that? It's a free and open source project that basically exists to play old video games, it doesn't have a market space in the first place.  deimos posted:Are you sure the issue is 16 bit? 64 bit Windows explicitly removed support for 16 bit Windows applications to run, if it's 16 bit it simply doesn't run.
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Install Windows posted:It's a free and open source project that basically exists to play old video games, it doesn't have a market space in the first place. UT servers run at the approximately the same speed (1-2% perf penalty) on WINE and save you the Windows Server licensing costs.
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Dilbert As gently caress posted:Okay maybe I missed it but what and why are you running 16 bit applications in the year 2014? Four words: Castle of the Winds. (Serious answer - ancient line-of-business applications.)
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Apr 11, 2014 20:11
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Inspector_666 posted:It should be trivial to push out approved content lists for IE. Making the OU should be pretty easy based on what other people have said, too. Sickening posted:Your admins can't modify and deploy host files?
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Apr 11, 2014 20:40
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Knormal posted:OUs were how I suggested we go about it, but was told it would be too much work to create and maintin duplicate OUs for the XP machines alongside our regular OUs. So instead they're doing a global GP to check OS version and push out a dummy proxy/whitelist at logon. If policy doesn't apply right, which happens a lot in our environment, oops, full Internet access. You don't have to reorg your ou's. You use WMI filtering on the group policy objects you make so they only apply to xp. Your admins are not very skilled.
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CommanderApaul posted:I got a work order today to install a Radiation Safety training program for one of our lab managers. He has to give a presentation using this training program on Monday. Remoted into the workstation, launched setup.exe from the CD as administrator, thought it was weird that it had an "Run from the CD/Run from the HDD" option for a 67MB program, but ok. Everything looks like it installed ok until Windows pops up the "this program may not have installed correctly box." What the gently caress does 18 year old radiation safety teach? Duck and cover?
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Apr 11, 2014 21:23
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Dilbert As gently caress posted:Okay maybe I missed it but what and why are you running 16 bit applications in the year 2014? I have a client that does business with a state agency. That agency requires the use of a dos based 16 bit database application that can only print directly to lpt1.
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Apr 11, 2014 21:25
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Paladine_PSoT posted:What the gently caress does 18 year old radiation safety teach? Duck and cover? Don't use a Therac-25? 
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The Fool posted:I have a client that does business with a state agency. That agency requires the use of a dos based 16 bit database application that can only print directly to lpt1. We had a few of those at the county government, http://www.dosprn.com/index.htm came in very handy.
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Nebulis01 posted:We had a few of those at the county government, http://www.dosprn.com/index.htm came in very handy. code:
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Sickening posted:You don't have to reorg your ou's. You use WMI filtering on the group policy objects you make so they only apply to xp.
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Apr 11, 2014 22:19
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The Fool posted:
Used to have to do this at my old job to get $legacyshitapp to print. Knormal posted:Yeah, I don't really know anything about AD administration myself, but I know enough to know that a lot of the stuff that should be basic AD functionality seems to be a real challenge for them. Pick up a book, setup a small virtual lab and advise them how to do poo poo properly.
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Knormal posted:Yeah, I don't really know anything about AD administration myself, but I know enough to know that a lot of the stuff that should be basic AD functionality seems to be a real challenge for them. When you attach a Group Policy, you can specify, as part of the GP, a WMI filter that queries all members of the OU and will only apply the group policy to members who return True for the query. The query you would need to slide under the AD team's door is: select * from Win32_OperatingSystem where Version like "5.1%" Windows XP and SBS2003 are built on Windows NT 5.x, with 5.11 being SP1, 5.12 XP SP2, 5.13 XP SP3 iirc. NT version 5.2 is the 64 bit Windows XP and you might not want to filter it since it's rare and usually important. If you're still using SBS2003 in your environment you would need to add a second excluding flag to your WMI query (as to return true for Client versions of Windows only): select * from Win32_OperatingSystem where Version like "5.2%" and ProductType = "1" Roargasm fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Apr 11, 2014 |
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A mistake came in. A program wasn't working right. I remade her user profile and that was that. Unfortunately I didn't know that the TEMP profile would wipe out any data I put in it on reboot as I found out the next day  . Why would Microsoft think deleting people's data silently would be a good idea?And of course I used cut and paste instead of copy and paste. The data is loving gone. So many layers of carelessness on my part. I'm lucky the user was really cool about it. Most of it was icons and templates she can get back. Still, lesson learned. On another note, I closed 40 tickets in a 7 day period out of like 70 in a 4 man team this week. Also got a kudos note. Figure one oh poo poo ticket once in a long while balances out.
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skooma512 posted:A mistake came in.
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Does Windows 3.11 work in DOSBox?
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AT&T is dead. None of our stores have network access. AT&T describes it as a "major outage". Thanks, guys
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myron cope posted:AT&T is dead. None of our stores have network access. Where is this?
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RFC2324 posted:Where is this? We have locations from New York to Georgia over to Kentucky. Everyone was down. It seems to be working now...but it looks like it started around 2am or so fake edit: back down. AT&T is probably close to fixing it though edit: it's fixed myron cope fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Apr 12, 2014 |
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spankmeister posted:Does Windows 3.11 work in DOSBox? Yes it does. It's how I play Dune on my phone. (also Photoshop to freak out my graphic designer brother in law) Humbug Scoolbus fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Apr 12, 2014 |
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myron cope posted:We have locations from New York to Georgia over to Kentucky. Everyone was down. It seems to be working now...but it looks like it started around 2am or so Verizon had some sort of widespread outage on the East Coast late yesterday morning as well, took down all external access from one of our office/data center locations for about an hour.
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That outage happened to coincide with a serious issue that took down our internet access (and therefore our ability to do business, since our QuickBooks file and most of our working stuff is on the company corpshare server) yesterday around 10. We're on Comcast, and they insisted it was our hardware (which wouldn't surprise me, SonicWall can go gently caress itself with a splintering rake). After our tech guys determined it was NOT our hardware, we got bounced back to Comcast, and the yutz in the call center said between 3 and 5 PM, a tech would be out. Long story short, the call center guy was wrong, it's actually a four-hour window, tech shows up around 6:15. It's a loving static IP collision issue on Comcast's end, because some dumb gently caress assigned OUR static IP to another customer and we finally lost that battle today. What's more, it was his second IP collision that day. Our CFO is bugging my boss about switching to BrightHouse now.
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skooma512 posted:Unfortunately I didn't know that the TEMP profile would wipe out any data I put in it on reboot as I found out the next day Windows pops up a rather clear warning message about this.
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D34THROW posted:That outage happened to coincide with a serious issue that took down our internet access (and therefore our ability to do business, since our QuickBooks file and most of our working stuff is on the company corpshare server) yesterday around 10. We're on Comcast, and they insisted it was our hardware (which wouldn't surprise me, SonicWall can go gently caress itself with a splintering rake). After our tech guys determined it was NOT our hardware, we got bounced back to Comcast, and the yutz in the call center said between 3 and 5 PM, a tech would be out. Static IP collisions are actually pretty common and I have no loving idea why. It seems like it would be an issue that's solved by accurate book keeping by the ISP. Sadly by the time it gets to me poo poo's already broken, but I see it happen maybe once or twice a week. The ISP I work for is nowhere near the size of Comcast, though. Speaking of Sonicwall, I had to deal with a customer a few days ago who's Sonicwall was responding to every single ARP request...on the WAN. Luckily I didn't have to call him, just brick his modem and make someone else deal with it (because ISPs are horribly inefficient companies). He was on the same router as a few tens of thousands of people so that's kind of not good.
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 or all the outages are the NSA implementing heartbleed 2
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anthonypants posted:In Windows 7 you need to delete some registry keys in addition to renaming their folder in C:\Users, or else when they log in they'll be given a temp profile every time. Mercurius fucked around with this message at 06:47 on Apr 13, 2014 |
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Actually got a ticket asking if the company's servers were vulnerable to the Heartbleed exploit... Thank gently caress for the previous sys admin being completely tinfoil about open source stuff and using IIS instead.
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WhoNeedsAName posted:Actually got a ticket asking if the company's servers were vulnerable to the Heartbleed exploit... It doesn't matter. You need new certs anyway for visitors to trust your site.
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evol262 posted:It doesn't matter. You need new certs anyway for visitors to trust your site. How would people know? A few of our clients are getting re-keyed certs with the same dates from their CAs.
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evol262 posted:It doesn't matter. You need new certs anyway for visitors to trust your site. That got done pretty quickly but then we only have Exchange and an FTP server exposed to the web from the main network. Our website runs off a different server thats not connected to the rest of the network because :reasons: and has no secure content what so ever.
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Sonic Dude posted:How would people know? A few of our clients are getting re-keyed certs with the same dates from their CAs. If it were me, I'd be submitting new CSRs and asking for revocation on the old certs.
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Dilbert As gently caress posted:Okay maybe I missed it but what and why are you running 16 bit applications in the year 2014? The project to replace it with a modern ERP is now pushing 2 years, and is very unlikely to be finished before the end of the year. 
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At one of my companies clients, it was hot the last few days so they left the windows open over the course of the weekend because the building would not start the AC, similarly the main network equipment room has no cooling so that door was too left open. So come today we get a ticket and I paraphrase quote:We need a field tech onsite, several birds have nested in the server room  
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QuiteEasilyDone posted:At one of my companies clients, it was hot the last few days so they left the windows open over the course of the weekend because the building would not start the AC, similarly the main network equipment room has no cooling so that door was too left open. Fixed that for you
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