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ChickenMedium posted:I think maybe he got the name Floki because of how weird he is. If you're named Floki and you're a Viking it's probably impossible to tell if you were named well or if you're just living up to your name.
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Finndo posted:They need to do a remake of Twins, set in Viking times, with Floki and his actor's RL brother from True Blood. ... and his other brother from Hemlock Grove, in case you'd need someone who looks more creepy and insane than Floki. And his dad from the Thor movies. Come to think of it, there are something like seven brothers and one sister IRL. The Skarsgård family is big enough to play every role in any movie.
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Apr 12, 2014 05:33
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I finally got around to watching this episode and I cant believe they killed Jarl Borg. I thought for sure he would escape and they showed it too! With all the implied violence even though it was artsy enough not to show much that was wild. I wonder what Jarl Borgs death does for King Horiks confessed desire to kill Ragnar. Or if the arrival of the "new ally" puts all that poo poo on the back burner..
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Apr 12, 2014 07:30
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DarklyDreaming posted:Didn't they show up around 200 years after the show takes place? wikipedia posted:Lagertha was, according to legend, a Danish Viking shieldmaiden from what is now Norway, and the onetime wife of the famous Viking Ragnar Lodbrok. Her tale, as recorded by the chronicler Saxo in the 12th century, may be a reflection of tales about Þorgerðr Hölgabrúðr, a Norse deity.
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Apr 12, 2014 11:12
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Mr. Carlisle posted:Also I don't know if I was only half paying attention during the scene and need to rewatch it (which I will) but didn't Horik tell Borg he was going to get him released? Unless I missed the reason he didn't it seemed like it just didn't happen. Then with the stuff with Floki this episode it felt like they wrote the season one way then abruptly changed direction on who they wanted Ragnar's enemy to be finishing out the season. Probably going to give this episode another watch this evening but as good as it was something felt weird about it and the Floki stuff just out of place. I thought he told him he was gonna let him out and kill Ragnar because a man who thinks he will be freed soon won't try and escape. It keeps him quietly sitting there thinking he's getting help on the outside.
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Apr 12, 2014 13:24
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Was Ragnar skinning a rat to eat early on in the episode? No wonder he's loving pissed.
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Apr 12, 2014 17:40
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Bolow posted:Was Ragnar skinning a rat to eat early on in the episode? No wonder he's loving pissed. Seemed like it might have been symbolic - maybe sending a message to Horik that he knew what was up with him and Borg? Just an idea, but it may have been just to eat
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Apr 12, 2014 18:17
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Yeah, that was weird. Jarl Borg had a pet rat this episode too, I hope he didn't neglect it when he got the wife skull back.
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Apr 12, 2014 18:24
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No More Heroes posted:I wonder what Jarl Borgs death does for King Horiks confessed desire to kill Ragnar. Or if the arrival of the "new ally" puts all that poo poo on the back burner.. Horik seems like the type of guy who thinks he's smart enough to swing Lagertha to his side, but not smart enough to actually do it. I wouldn't be surprised if he tries something and it blows up in his face. Bolow posted:Was Ragnar skinning a rat to eat early on in the episode? No wonder he's loving pissed. They had to burn all their grain supplies to get rid of Borg. Probably a lot of rat and other less delectable food stuff being eaten until they get more grain.
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Apr 12, 2014 20:06
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I think Horik is going to get what's coming to him by the end of the season.Bolow posted:Was Ragnar skinning a rat to eat early on in the episode? No wonder he's loving pissed. At least he didn't eat any babby goats. ...right? 
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Apr 12, 2014 20:23
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I think Hannibal has ruined my sense of what violence is acceptable on tv, I thought the blood eagle was very restrained. I have to agree with the earlier poster who said that (Saga spoilers) King Aella will be screaming the whole way through when he gets his blood eagle. I absolutely love that Aslaug witnessed a blood eagle while pregnant with Ivar. Still very curious to see what direction they will go in with him. I'm thinking they will just have him be physically weak or perhaps deformed without actually being disabled. hypersleep posted:I think Horik is going to get what's coming to him by the end of the season. Yeah Ragnar needs to rise in rank more. (Saga spoilers) Since most of his sons were powerful rulers and kings in their own right, he needs a bunch of inheritance to pass out.
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Apr 12, 2014 21:11
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marktheando posted:I absolutely love that Aslaug witnessed a blood eagle while pregnant with Ivar. Still very curious to see what direction they will go in with him. I'm thinking they will just have him be physically weak or perhaps deformed without actually being disabled. She did say that she prophesied a monster. Though since he brother's already got a hosed up eye it's questionable as to how monstrous he'll be. Maybe he'll be born and the baby will be played by Bjorn's old actor.
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Apr 12, 2014 21:35
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Floki facebook relationship status: it's complicated
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Apr 12, 2014 21:39
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Ivar doesn't have to be deformed to be a monster...
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Apr 12, 2014 22:46
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hypersleep posted:
Probably not, unless poo poo gets really dire. They want adult goats for more meat.
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Apr 12, 2014 23:10
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SpRahl posted:So Im betting that if the show ever gets around to Aella getting Blood Eagled hes gonna scream like a motherfucker. Pretty sure you can't scream with your lungs removed from your chest. I was actually pretty disappointed with how they handled that torture thing. It was a solid 10 minutes of slow motion and reaction shots. In fact the whole episode was pretty lame and boring. Easily the worst episode this season. Arglebargle III fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Apr 13, 2014 |
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Apr 13, 2014 01:24
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Arglebargle III posted:Pretty sure you can't scream with your lungs removed from your chest. It was fine. They did a good job conveying how horrific it was. Did you actually want to see it or something?
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Apr 13, 2014 01:47
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Arglebargle III posted:Pretty sure you can't scream with your lungs removed from your chest. Yeah but you can still scream when they slice your back open and crack your ribs apart, they made a deal about how the victom can retain honor and have chance at Valhalla if they endure it in silence and Borg did that and I think its safe to say Aella wont manage that. DarkCrawler posted:Ivar doesn't have to be deformed to be a monster... Possibility is still open for Ivar to be a freakin awesome contortionist, we can only hope. Arglebargle III posted:In fact the whole episode was pretty lame and boring. Easily the worst episode this season. Its definitely not the best but there were some scenes I loved. The scene with Ragnar behind the screen spying on/observing the dinner party guests was pretty cool, Ragnar and his buddy's drunken archery games and I think the blood eagle was handled about as well as you could expect on the history channel.
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Apr 13, 2014 01:58
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thehacker0 posted:Seemed like it might have been symbolic - maybe sending a message to Horik that he knew what was up with him and Borg? Just an idea, but it may have been just to eat Well they did have to burn the winter stores so rat is a mighty fine meal when you got nothin..
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Apr 13, 2014 03:33
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DarkCrawler posted:Ivar doesn't have to be deformed to be a monster... To stand out as a monster among Vikings, he probably would. Unless he's a monster only when judged by Vikings. Ivar will be the most polite, friendly, pacifist Christian in all of Denmark.
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Apr 13, 2014 05:35
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Or he'll be a liar, a coward, and someone who insults the gods, and rules through fear and manipulation rather than strength.
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Apr 13, 2014 05:56
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Or he will have wobbly legs because isn't that what Ivar The Boneless was like?
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Shaman Ooglaboogla posted:Or he will have wobbly legs because isn't that what Ivar The Boneless was like? No one is sure why he was called "The Boneless," some think it was brittle bone disease and there is even speculation he was carried into battle on a shield which is far-fetched imho. Also some say it was because he was impotent.
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marktheando posted:I think Hannibal has ruined my sense of what violence is acceptable on tv, I thought the blood eagle was very restrained. I have to agree with the earlier poster who said that (Saga spoilers) King Aella will be screaming the whole way through when he gets his blood eagle. Haha yeah, that threw me up as well. Hannibal had an episode with something quite similar happening (Basically instead the lungs the killer used the skin of the back to fashion 'wings'), and they showed absolutely everything. But I suppose then again everybody watching Hannibal already know what they're in for brutality-wise, whereas for Vikings it'd be a larger departure in tone to go full on torture-porn.
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Mr. Carlisle posted:
I agree they should have left that scene in, sounds very different to what I thought happened. I assumed that Ragnar found another ally quicker than Horik expected, and since things like escapes take a while to organise, Horik just took too long and Ragnar executed Borg before he had a chance to spring his plan. I just take comfort knowing that my boy Borg is in Valhalla after enduring that execution like a badass. Gonna miss him, he was great.
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Apr 13, 2014 16:00
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We need this with the Viking theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6tKZ-cg4RI
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Apr 14, 2014 00:44
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I couldn't figure out what Floki is angry about. Thanks for all the sound theories.
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Apr 14, 2014 16:02
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I love how Ragnar kept playing the cup game with Horik even though he literally missed with every single knife. Also did I miss a scene or something explaining how Lagertha is an earl now? Are we supposed to assume she murdered her husband and took his poo poo or something?
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Full Fathoms Five posted:I love how Ragnar kept playing the cup game with Horik even though he literally missed with every single knife. She did basically murder him. Or she started to and one of his own men killed him. I have no idea how she could be an earl now because I don't know anything about Viking laws that governed women being earls, but my best guess is that she isn't really (she used a fake name no one had heard of instead of her own), but no one was left to really stop her from doing what she wanted to do.
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Apr 15, 2014 08:22
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As far as I've understood from the show you basically get to be an earl by having enough rep and generally being a badass...both which Lagertha has in spades.
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Apr 15, 2014 08:39
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Full Fathoms Five posted:Also did I miss a scene or something explaining how Lagertha is an earl now? Are we supposed to assume she murdered her husband and took his poo poo or something? Well she did convince her husband to let her borrow a bunch of soldiers to go help Ragnar out against Borg, so I don't think it's too big of a jump from there to assume that most/all of them liked her enough that when she kicked her lovely husband out they stuck around and joined her. They obviously kind of glossed over that to set up the big surprise scene of her being the earl that wants to help Ragnar, but I don't think it would've been particularly complicated even if they did show exactly how her taking over went down. e: Actually, did they ever say that she actually considers herself an earl? I think she just gave the fake earl name so that Ragnar would come to the woods, so maybe her husband's still technically in charge of his lands but she just told all the men that they could come raiding if they went with her and peaced the gently caress out of there. VDay fucked around with this message at 10:01 on Apr 15, 2014 |
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Angry Birds Suicide posted:I keep hoping/waiting for the Jömsvikings to make an appearance but so far But the saga of the Jomsvikings takes place at the end of the viking era, while the show is in the beginning. It would be really strange to have them in. VDay posted:Well she did convince her husband to let her borrow a bunch of soldiers to go help Ragnar out against Borg, so I don't think it's too big of a jump from there to assume that most/all of them liked her enough that when she kicked her lovely husband out they stuck around and joined her. They obviously kind of glossed over that to set up the big surprise scene of her being the earl that wants to help Ragnar, but I don't think it would've been particularly complicated even if they did show exactly how her taking over went down. Did you miss the part where she stabbed her husband in the eye and another guy chopped his head off? Atreiden fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Apr 15, 2014 |
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VDay posted:Well she did convince her husband to let her borrow a bunch of soldiers to go help Ragnar out against Borg.
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Her husband's super dead if you missed it. She stabbed him in the eye with a steak knife and then one of his homeboys chopped his head off.
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I think Lagertha's husband was only jarl by succession and had zero respect from his warriors who'd probably be pretty drat happy to replace their good for nothing wimp of a jarl with a famous shieldmaiden. Wether a woman can be a jarl or not I have no clue, but instead of taking a guess I'm going to say humma humma viking sagas ugga ugga television honk honk handwaving.
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Apr 15, 2014 14:09
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I guess it also means that at this moment Bjorn is pretty much set for life, if he inherits some of Ragnar's holdings and his mom's holdings.
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Dreylad posted:I guess it also means that at this moment Bjorn is pretty much set for life, if he inherits some of Ragnar's holdings and his mom's holdings. With those parents Bjorn better be Conaning up a kingdom by his own hand before he's 20. Tick tock, Bjorn, time is running out.
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Gyges posted:With those parents Bjorn better be Conaning up a kingdom by his own hand before he's 20. Tick tock, Bjorn, time is running out. gently caress historical fact, Bjorn is gonna sail south and found a new Roman Empire on the ashes of the last one. All hail Bjornus Maximus Rex!
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Apr 15, 2014 15:46
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With his lineage people will be expecting him to be the vikingist viking who ever vikinged. Gotta be stressful. Should've just let him go chill in the mountains for awhile but noooooooo... re earldom: yeah, the show seems to be taking the stance that as long as you've got the rep. and the popularity most people will just kind of shrug and accept it. If you start screwing up/around however it's gtfo.
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Erghh posted:With his lineage people will be expecting him to be the vikingist viking who ever vikinged. Gotta be stressful. Should've just let him go chill in the mountains for awhile but noooooooo... The other thing is, Bjorn is trying to get some slave girl poontang and she is telling him to gently caress off even though she knows he is the earl's son and he's showing honor by not just raping the poo poo out of her even though no one'd stop him. So he is sexually frustrated, pissed off, and has some big Ragnar-sized shoes to fill. Both his parents cast a shadow he will have to work hard to live up to, so maybe it's a good thing he is sexually frustrated.
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