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Node posted:1UPT? Cool. It was nice to be excited for a few seconds at least. 
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Apr 12, 2014 18:56
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Node posted:1UPT? Cool. It was nice to be excited for a few seconds at least. Yeah the AI really doesn't know how to deal with 1UPT; should have stuck with Civ 4 on a hex grid.
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Apr 12, 2014 19:08
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quote:Yeah the AI really doesn't know how to deal with 1UPT; should have stuck with Civ 4 on a hex grid. It didn't really know how to deal with stacks either beyond "more" = "better".
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Apr 12, 2014 19:11
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Apparently the space victory is the cannon ending for BNW, lol
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Apr 12, 2014 19:13
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RBA Starblade posted:It didn't really know how to deal with stacks either beyond "more" = "better". Which is still a lot better than invading with 10 units more than a human opponent and not making a dent because they don't know how to place their siege and archer units. I'll take stacks of doom any day over the current system.
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So, will they have enough sense to have hotseat in at the beginning this time? 
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1UPT means the combat will be terrible like Civ V but otherwise I'm looking forward to this.
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The only thing I'm not psyched up for is the mention of there only being eight civs/expedition sponsors, but maybe that's just all they have announced for the time being. Eight seems a little light, but hopefully the technology web thing will let there be room for a lot of individuality even within the same faction.
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That's about how many there were in base Alpha Centauri, and they were all really different. Besides, if the modding support is as robust as Civ5's, we'll have the Alpha Centauri gang in this...I'm calling, a month after release.
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The orbital layer reminds me a bit of Civ: Call to Power. Only the orbital and aquatic layers were pretty useless in that game. As long as there's some Miriam analogue to fight with and destroy, I'll be happy. Also, loving the comments on this thread: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/04/12/civilization-beyond-earth-trailer/#more-201225 RPS commenter posted:Of course we’ll bundle our new videogame with the new unlockable DLC’s! Our customers expect no less of us. We have never sought to become a monopoly. Our products are simply so good that no one feels the need to compete with us.
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Mystic_Shadow posted:Which is still a lot better than invading with 10 units more than a human opponent and not making a dent because they don't know how to place their siege and archer units. It's really not if it still can't win. 1upt is at least more manageable.
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Sexual Aluminum posted:Apparently the space victory is the cannon ending for BNW, lol In 98% of my games it is.  Clearly going all Tech Supremacy all the time in
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The trailer really did it for me. Water pyramids? Rockets launching right out of downtown? Yes, indeed, it looks like a proper sequel to Civ V. Sign me the gently caress up. (Water Pyramids and Spaceship Victory are now canon)
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Apr 12, 2014 20:19
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Goddamn I've been waiting for a sequel to SMAC for so long. One of the factions better be run by a head in a jar or I'm going to be pissed.
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Apr 12, 2014 20:21
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One of the lead devs feels the same way about Civ Rev as I do, I have a good feeling about Beyond Earth!
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AnxiousApatosaurus posted:Goddamn I've been waiting for a sequel to SMAC for so long. One of the factions better be run by a head in a jar or I'm going to be pissed. That doesn't seem to be a starting option. However, an eventual choice is for the entire faction to turn into such. So you'd better get your anger out of your system.
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Hahahaha. EA owns the rights to SMAC, so they had to do this instead. Which is fine! This looks GREAT!
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I'm not sure how SMAC could be improved upon, at least in the narrative arena, so I'm glad they are categorically not trying to recreate it in many ways. All the stuff they've given out has made this out to be a different but still compelling game about humans in space. If it's really an AAA effort then I'm gonna love this.
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I know I'm gonna be branded a heretic for saying this, but I've never actually played SMAC. I've always wanted to, but never got the opportunity. I hope this is a good enough spiritual successor that I can have a surrogate experience.
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Hello, tech support? I'm throwing money at my monitor but there's no confirmation of my preorder.
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I just hope they solve the wide/tall discrepancy, because there's no chance in Hell I'm going to merge with lifeless silicon or worse, an alien
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The White Dragon posted:I know I'm gonna be branded a heretic for saying this, but I've never actually played SMAC. I've always wanted to, but never got the opportunity. I hope this is a good enough spiritual successor that I can have a surrogate experience. Go to Gog.com this instant. It's there, it's cheap.
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The White Dragon posted:I know I'm gonna be branded a heretic for saying this, but I've never actually played SMAC. I've always wanted to, but never got the opportunity. I hope this is a good enough spiritual successor that I can have a surrogate experience. Luckily for you you can get it for $6 on GoG. The Civ 2 interface takes a lot of getting used to if you've primarily played cIV/V, so be prepared.
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CommissarMega posted:I just hope they solve the wide/tall discrepancy, because there's no chance in Hell I'm going to merge with lifeless silicon or worse, an alien I love that you can create your own factions because there's no way I'm not going to play as XCOM and Kill All The Aliens.
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Node posted:1UPT? Cool. It was nice to be excited for a few seconds at least. We'll just have to move on to the bigger brighter better future without ya. Geight posted:One of the lead devs feels the same way about Civ Rev as I do Which is?
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Alpha Centauri 2? Shut up and take my loving money. No seriously take it, take all of it!
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And so we return again to the holy void. Some say this is simply our destiny, but I would have you remember always that the void EXISTS, just as surely as you or I. Is nothingness any less a miracle than substance? -- Sister Miriam Godwinson, "We must Dissent"
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quote:I love that you can create your own factions because there's no way I'm not going to play as XCOM and Kill All The Aliens. Even if they end being Green Skinned Space Babes? Your opinions may change based on impressions. It's unclear how they'll be. That would be interesting, to be honest-if the 'alien' weren't always the same type.
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Apr 12, 2014 20:50
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How can you trust the company who turned amazing game "Civilization 4: Beyond the Sword" into pile of poo poo game "Civilization 5" to make another good game?
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*twitch* As I understand, Civ4 itself took two expansions to become the beloved thing people rave on. So why people still hate Civ5 I dunno. That view is so loving blinkered and rose-coloured....
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RBA Starblade posted:I love that you can create your own factions because there's no way I'm not going to play as XCOM and Kill All The Aliens. XCOM is now part of Civ Canon™. Hopefully Dr. Vahlen will show up as a xenophobic faction leader (or at least an advisor)
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The White Dragon posted:I know I'm gonna be branded a heretic for saying this, but I've never actually played SMAC. I've always wanted to, but never got the opportunity. I hope this is a good enough spiritual successor that I can have a surrogate experience. lol, no. There's been literally 0 good spiritual successors to SMAC since SMAC, even SMACX managed to do some disservice to the narrative beauty of SMAC by adding in pirates and hackers and communists as factions! The most recent SMAC-alike, though, came out earlier this year and it's called Pandora: First Contact. It's not a bad game, it's just very bland. It tries very hard to ape what Reynolds did with SMAC's lore, but just kind of fails in a wet-fart kind of way. As far as gameplay goes it's similarly bland, but has some good underlying thoughts.
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Bloodly posted:*twitch* What expansions should I install for Civilization 5 to make it not poo poo because I have them all and it's still a shallow, mindless game with AI that can't control armies or put up a fight.
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Bloodly posted:*twitch* I don't get this. Civ 4 isn't even a decade old. This isn't some old 8-bit game from the 80s/90s we played as kids that we remember fondly when in actuality it wasn't all that good to begin with, this is a relatively recent and still very well-regarded game in the same series. Is it really so unreasonable to think that people who loved Civ 4 might not have liked Civ 5 as much even after expansions, especially given how much of a radical departure the fifth game was? Is that such an unbelievable stance that it has to be met with confusion and claims of blind nostalgia whenever it comes up?
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rsjr posted:What expansions should I install for Civilization 5 to make it not poo poo because I have them all and it's still a shallow, mindless game with AI that can't control armies or put up a fight. This part applies to cIV as well.
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The White Dragon posted:I know I'm gonna be branded a heretic for saying this, but I've never actually played SMAC. I've always wanted to, but never got the opportunity. I hope this is a good enough spiritual successor that I can have a surrogate experience. Play it. The UI is outdated and annoying, the graphics are straight outta 1999, but the atmosphere is so engrossing it's worth the fight.
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Super Jay Mann posted:Is it really so unreasonable to think that people who loved Civ 4 might not have liked Civ 5 as much even after expansions, especially given how much of a radical departure the fifth game was? Is that such an unbelievable stance that it has to be met with confusion and claims of blind nostalgia whenever it comes up? YES. There are people who refuse to even try it simply because it is not Civ 4. If you have tried it, and still dislike it, that is another thing, and is reasonable.
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IMO the only thing that was better about Civ4 was Fall From Heaven 2.  I actually really do like playing Civ5 more.
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The White Dragon posted:I know I'm gonna be branded a heretic for saying this, but I've never actually played SMAC. I've always wanted to, but never got the opportunity. I hope this is a good enough spiritual successor that I can have a surrogate experience. Sheng-ji Yang posted:Play it. The UI is outdated and annoying, the graphics are straight outta 1999, but the atmosphere is so engrossing it's worth the fight. If you do play it I'd suggest you check out kyrub's SMAC AI & fixes patch or his SMACX AI & some fixes patch. They're first-playthrough friendly. If you're an older player who happens to be reading this posting and thinking of getting back into the game, then some dude called Yitzi has been patching up his own patch for the past ~a long time. He's built on top of kyrub's AI stuff and allows you to change all kinds of stuff via a .txt file included with the patch. Here's the changelog and the download.
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