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icantfindaname posted:I too think it's a good business decision to go out of my way to piss off the people who buy and play my games. Weren't these the people that bullied a fifteen year old kid to giving up his first place prize at Evo because the entire community failed to know how to fight against ROB? They were upset and felt the game was cheap and not fair because the tournament was played with items on instead of off. Supposedly ROB stinks but is incredible when items are involved. Yet if you watch the videos the kid clearly is an expert at the game and earned it. The Pro Smash Community treated this fifteen year old kid like poo poo because he completely mastered the game and owned them all.
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Are we really using the argument that the competitive Smash gaming crowd is enough to pull the Wii U out of the gutter? I don't know what to say to that one because it's lunacy and the only people that believe it are the ones whose entire identity is Smash. The competitive Smash crowd is seriously the spergiest of the spergs when it comes to gaming and they will not leave their comfort zone of Melee.
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Fulchrum posted:Yeah, whoever heard of a portable Nintendo game having a large multiplayer following. This isn't even what I was saying but gently caress it, this thread is so full of miserable moping that I don't expect to hear anything but relentless bitching about this
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Equilibrium posted:By the time Smash U comes out the game will have already been eviscerated by the competitive Smash community who will no doubt be livid over system changes and character balance. These people are awful but they'll also poison a lot of the discussion and hype surrounding the game, Nintendo's making a big mistake by not cashing in on blind nostalgia while they still have the chance. The conversation on these boards gets poisoned even faster by goons whining about the existence of people who don't play the game the way they do, regardless of whether it's "competitive rules" or "all items all characters".
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Apr 9, 2014 03:46
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Nah man, it's the ones complaining about the complainers that are the intolerable ones!!! <-- A great and cool thing to say in the year 2014.
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MinibarMatchman posted:I was more referencing the fact there's no way people will get together and huddle with their 3ds handhelds for social play, playing smash while yelling at your rear end in a top hat friends is half the fun and regardless of online play, I'd rather do that on a big screen Not really, me and my friends would much rather play comfortably in our homes across wifi with our 3DS' than maybe once every few weeks spend the few hours we all have off together playing in the living room. poo poo, I can be in my underwear at home eating a bagel and my other friend can be riding the bus home from work. As long as it's not as lovely as Brawl's online, that is.
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Apr 9, 2014 03:52
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Maybe they'll pull what Monster Hunter 3 on 3DS did and make it so playing online can only be done through a Wii-U.
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icantfindaname posted:I too think it's a good business decision to go out of my way to piss off the people who buy and play my games. Ultimate Marvel Vs Capcom 3 is arguably the most popular fighting game on the planet, it is in everything, and that game barely cracked a million sold, the Smash community isn't even a fraction of the size that the Ultimate Marvel one is, on top of the fact that they are massive spergs who live Melee and only Melee, to the point where they made an entire mode for Brawl to make it more like Melee. Trust me, I know way to much about that community that I care to due to one of my friends having been in the pro community for so long, thankfully he was one of the normal ones but the poo poo he told me sometimes.  I don't see why they would mad though, they just have to wait a little longer.
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univbee posted:Maybe they'll pull what Monster Hunter 3 on 3DS did and make it so playing online can only be done through a Wii-U. It's on both versions. So right now the 3DS version is releasing SEVERAL MONTHS earlier than the WiiU version with an exclusive game mode, while the WiiU version has! ..... gently caress
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Bobnumerotres posted:So right now the 3DS version is releasing SEVERAL MONTHS earlier than the WiiU version with an exclusive game mode, while the WiiU version has! ..... Several more months until it releases?
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Well I mean maybe there's a nicer way to put it than 'I told you so', but it was pretty obvious Nintendo's focus this year, as presented to their investors, was in turning a profit, and the only way to do that is to focus on the system that is generating profit and that's the 3DS. The "long-term" strategy doesn't matter if everyone gets axed before it reaches fruition. Right now it's about short-term and stopping the bleeding, and the best way to maximize sales of Smash Bros is to do it this way, even if it further puts the Wii U at a disadvantage. Really strong software sales and sales of 3DS systems is the only real way Nintendo can overcome the losses they're taking on Wii U. They haven't talked about anything for 2015 because 2015 doesn't matter right now. It's all about this year, making money this year. They'll worry about next year, next year. Similarly, they haven't announced anything new for Wii U this year because it's a dead platform. They have multiple major titles coming to 3DS in the next couple of months alone. They're all-in on 3DS. They have two major titles for Wii U this year, one next month and one in December-ish. That's it. (Bayonetta 2 is not a major title, sorry. It won't sell. It's Platinum, anyway.) The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 05:10 on Apr 9, 2014 |
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deadwing posted:Several more months until it releases? This is how logic works right?
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Alteisen posted:Ultimate Marvel Vs Capcom 3 is arguably the most popular fighting game on the planet, it is in everything, and that game barely cracked a million sold, the Smash community isn't even a fraction of the size that the Ultimate Marvel one is, on top of the fact that they are massive spergs who live Melee and only Melee, to the point where they made an entire mode for Brawl to make it more like Melee. Smash Bros is a Nintendo game made for children. A very small and vocal percentage of people care about things such as updated gliding mechanics and if tripping has been removed. I guarantee that the majority of the people that will buy the game will only care about if the characters they want to play with are in the game.
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If they went for a simultaneous release, both versions would be coming out in Winter 2014, not sooner than that (because whichever way they schedule it, the total number of manhours needed to complete the pair of games should remain about the same). I can see how the company might prefer getting one version out earlier and then focusing on finishing the other; the ROI is more immediate.
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Apr 9, 2014 05:18
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Chaltab posted:Specific mode announced for a version of a game launching sooner than anyone thought it would + nothing about specific modes announced for a version of the same game that won't be released until the end of the year > there will be no exclusive modes for the later version > Nintendo is abandoning the Wii U to die, all hope is lost, we are still dead in our sins. When the WiiU hasn't had ANY other bones thrown its way? Sure. I mean I'm sure a lot of people were doubtful the game would even release this year and all of the sudden the 3DS is getting an extremely early release on the WiiU. extremebuff fucked around with this message at 05:29 on Apr 9, 2014 |
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Quest For Glory II posted:(Bayonetta 2 is not a major title, sorry. It won't sell. It's Platinum, anyway.) Supercar Gautier posted:If they went for a simultaneous release, both versions would be coming out in Winter 2014, not sooner than that (because whichever way they schedule it, the total number of manhours needed to complete the pair of games should remain about the same). I can see how the company might prefer getting one version out earlier and then focusing on finishing the other; the ROI is more immediate.
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Neither Bayonetta 2 nor X are "major titles." I want both of them but I'll be shocked if they sold more than 1,500,000 copies combined if they were on a successful system, let alone the Wii U.
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That said, even the 3DS lineup is a bit of a mystery and after May it's really unclear as to what is coming next. If Wii U fans are hoping for the turnaround jumper to come from E3, I think they'll be disappointed, because I expect E3 to be primarily about 3DS announcements for Summer, Fall, and Holiday season. With most of the major Nintendo franchises represented on 3DS now, unless they're going to break out the next tier of IPs such as Wario Ware, Punch-Out, Pikmin, more Mario Sports, and Pokemon spinoffs, then I'm not sure what else they will do. I mean they JUST put out a new Zelda.. they haven't released more than one NSMB title on a platform, and the 3DS already has DKCR, Mario Kart, Smash, Pokemon, Mario 3D Land, Luigi's Mansion, Paper Mario, Mario & Luigi, Animal Crossing, Fire Emblem, every notable Nintendo mainstay all in a row. So unless the plan is to Call of Duty it with NSMB I would expect some of the games I mentioned above to be next. Wii U? They'll get their scraps. Hey look, NES Remix 2 this month. Guess what they'll announce at E3? NES Remix 3. Maybe they'll show 15 seconds of a Zelda title that's 2 years away. Or maybe they'll just talk about Mario Kart DLC tracks.
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Quest For Glory II posted:they haven't released more than one NSMB title on a platform, EAD Tokyo is already working on the next Mario game. They won't say if it's for 3DS or Wii U. http://www.edge-online.com/news/potential-new-wii-u-mario-game-could-aim-to-use-the-gamepad-more-says-nintendo/ Either way, both systems have had a 2D and 3D Mario game, so it will be yet another similar Mario game on the platform.
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Astro7x posted:EAD Tokyo is already working on the next Mario game. They won't say if it's for 3DS or Wii U. Could be a Mario RPG, which WiiU doesn't have one of yet. Or could be a sandbox which neither has.
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Neo Rasa posted:Weren't these the people that bullied a fifteen year old kid to giving up his first place prize at Evo because the entire community failed to know how to fight against ROB? They were upset and felt the game was cheap and not fair because the tournament was played with items on instead of off. Supposedly ROB stinks but is incredible when items are involved. Yet if you watch the videos the kid clearly is an expert at the game and earned it. The Pro Smash Community treated this fifteen year old kid like poo poo because he completely mastered the game and owned them all. You have a link for this?
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greatn posted:Could be a Mario RPG, which WiiU doesn't have one of yet. Or could be a sandbox which neither has. Mario RPGs aren't developed by EAD though? Paper Mario is developed by Intelligent Systems, and Mario and Luigi by AlphaDream.
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Eifert Posting posted:You have a link for this? I definitely remember hearing that story when it came out. Also, I'm pretty sure the poop story was Smash Bros. related. Either that, or Pokemon. Pretty sure Smash Bros. though. Basically, anything that annoys those people is probably okay.
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icantfindaname posted:Mario RPGs aren't developed by EAD though? Paper Mario is developed by Intelligent Systems, and Mario and Luigi by AlphaDream. IT could be a new kind of one.
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Frankly EAD probably has a standing policy of always having at least one Mario platformer in active development.
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Eifert Posting posted:You have a link for this? I don't know where to find a write up of the events that happened after, but here's footage of the final match https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFcnnPtUhGw You don't have to play a ton of Smash to realize that it wasn't luck the ROB player won.
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I don't think they should let computers play in EVO.
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A rare peek behind the curtain at the offices of Nintendo.
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Soul Glo posted:I definitely remember hearing that story when it came out. Also, I'm pretty sure the poop story was Smash Bros. related. Either that, or Pokemon. Pretty sure Smash Bros. though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns5MgXjE4N8
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The Kins posted:The poop-flinging thing was Pokemon. Here's an old podcast clip about it: My bad. "Handful of action" will always be funny, though.
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Bass Bottles posted:A rare peek behind the curtain at the offices of Nintendo. 
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https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/454663848176279552 Yes, this was posted on their official Twitter 
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Astro7x posted:https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/454663848176279552 Nintendo needs more of that and less of the cranky kong garbage. That tweet actually seems halfway self-aware and satirically funny to me.
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I almost impulse bought a Wii U because I have some downtime for the next 1.5 months and saw that there is a $300 bundle at Target with NSMBU, the Luigi add-on, and a $50 gift card which I could use toward the "buy 2, get 1" deal that ends today. When I couldn't find three other games that I was really excited about playing I decided to do some looking around and saw just how bleak the situation is. Yikes. I've played a lot of Nintendo in my life (Consoles and handhelds owned were NES, Genesis -> SNES, GB -> N64, GBC -> PS2, GC, Xbox, GBA, PSP, DS -> Wii, PS3, Vita -> PS4), but I've been so busy with my PS3, PS4, and Vita in the past few years that I hadn't fully realized just how bleak things were. I knew it was bad, but I didn't realize it makes the Vita look like a raging success. E3 should be interesting. For their sake, I hope it is! I think Nintendo has enough in the bank to give home consoles one more try, but their antiquated business models (ostracizing third party for four console generations in a row, no accounts, and you can lose your digital purchases?) and reputation will make it difficult. I was one click away from posting this in the wrong Wii U thread. That would have been bad.
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Part of the problem is that Nintendo has adopted a Sega Saturn approach to marketing, which is "We're going to announce a new game, AND IT'S OUT IN A WEEK!!" I want to say that's hyperbole but they literally did that with some of their eShop offerings. Tamodachi Life was just announced by Nintendo and it's only 2 months off. The apparent logic behind this, according to past goons who put words in Nintendo's mouths, is that there's less of a risk of delaying games if they announce them only after they've gone gold. All that accomplishes, however, is leaving everyone in the dark and giving the public the impression that nothing exists and nothing is to come. Nintendo for all we know has 12 games coming out for Wii U this year, but because they don't announce them until right before they come out, the current impression is that Nintendo has only 2 in-house titles for Wii U this year. Until Tamodachi Life was announced this week, Nintendo's upcoming 3DS software lineup had absolutely NO RELEASE DATES beyond May. It was and remains a complete mystery. What games are they releasing the second half of this year? We don't know. They may tell us at E3. Or they may wait until a week before they come out. And then they scratch their heads trying to figure out why they're lacking in visibility.
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And for what it's worth, there are quite a few interesting Wii U games already out. Lego City, the Wonderful 101, and Pikmin 3, to name a few that aren't more Mario.
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I'd say get Nintendo Land, Wonderful 101, and Darksiders II, which would total to $80 because D2 is 20 and the other are 30. So after your gift card you'd pay $0 for all three (W101 30 + DS2 20, the third game free) or possibly $10 if the free game has to be equal in price to the lowest cost game. So for $310 you'd have Super Mario U, Super Luigi U, Wonderful 101, Darksiders 2, and Nintendo Land, which is a fantastic deal.
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Chaltab posted:And for what it's worth, there are quite a few interesting Wii U games already out. Lego City, the Wonderful 101, and Pikmin 3, to name a few that aren't more Mario. Zombie U is a good game, additionally. It stutters a little because of the gamepad driven menus, but otherwise its pretty good for survival horror.
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greatn posted:I'd say get Nintendo Land, Wonderful 101, and Darksiders II, which would total to $80 because D2 is 20 and the other are 30. So after your gift card you'd pay $0 for all three (W101 30 + DS2 20, the third game free) or possibly $10 if the free game has to be equal in price to the lowest cost game. The deal is already over, and I think I'll be fine to wait until some time in 2015 (if ever) to pick up a Wii U. If there are already deals as good as this now, then there will probably similar (or better) deals in the future and the games will be even cheaper. I think my niece could get a kick out of it, especially the game pad, so it might be good for a birthday present.
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