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Yeah, I'm really curious to see what a chunk of cards designed by non-Magic people would be like. I could see really unique flavor creations going this way, but unless they're Magic players on their own I'm not sure how much they would work from a mechanics standpoint without some hand-holding from Wizards, and at that point how much of that design is from who they say it is? Also, EDH is pretty cool you guys-  Not pictured: me casting Multani and Kozilek next turn, then swinging into a really obvious overloaded Cyclonic Rift (while I had Iona in my hand), which the other remaining guy responded to with Sudden Spoiling followed by activating a Nev's Disk, so my Eldrazi didn't trigger the graveyard shuffling effect  Somehow I still won, 30 minutes later.E: Teeg doesn't stop Rift because its CMC is 2. The Overload is just an alternate casting method. C-Euro fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Apr 13, 2014 |
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Sleep of Bronze posted:Once you buy the game, you have several decks. Each time you use a deck to win a game online or against the AI, you unlock at least one card for it, to a max of 30 extra cards per deck. By entering codes that were given out for events during the year, you can add another 10 on top for each deck including very strong stuff like the Time Walk miracle and Force. Thanks for the explanation! How does sealed work? I noticed you can buy (expensive) slots for more of those decks. It seems like with no skin in the game, people might just drop if they get a lovely sealed deck.
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) Though the Samurai DLC deck is a decent aggro counter so the meta has a little give and variety in it.
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C-Euro posted:Yeah, I'm really curious to see what a chunk of cards designed by non-Magic people would be like. I could see really unique flavor creations going this way, but unless they're Magic players on their own I'm not sure how much they would work from a mechanics standpoint without some hand-holding from Wizards, and at that point how much of that design is from who they say it is? Justin Gary at least is a former MtG pro, and my guess is that all those people have played Magic.
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Devor posted:Thanks for the explanation! How does sealed work? I noticed you can buy (expensive) slots for more of those decks. It seems like with no skin in the game, people might just drop if they get a lovely sealed deck. Sealed ostensibly works by giving you a bunch of packs for a sealed pool, starting (I think) at 6 and then you can get up to 9 by playing single-player with a deck built from that sealed pool. In reality, people figured out how to mod their sealed pool to contain whatever cards they want, so people actually use it to play more free-form constructed than what the official decks let you do. At least, that's what it was like the last time I looked, not sure if it's still that way.
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Also, sealed's random number generator is apparently tied to your Steam account name, so you can't change your packs no matter what.
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Entropic posted:Can't roll my eyes enough at the Guest Designer gimmick for M15. Leave card design to the pros, please. First of all, no, second of all, keep in mind that Invitational cards have undergone huge changes but still mostly kept the spirit of the card. (unless you're Kai Budde) Tiago Chan's original submission was colorless land that was a 2UU counterspell in your hand. They work with the guest designers to get something both parties like.
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I'm hearing a rumor somewhere that Pharika is looking like: "If you would gain life, you may instead have creatures your opponents control get -x/-x until end of turn, where X is the amount of life gained." It was a source I tend to believe (this person's been 100% correct on some things before, especially with Theros), so I wouldn't expect him to be too far from the truth, but I also know that he hasn't been around Magic for a while, so who knows. Either way, that doesn't sound too farfetched of an ability.
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I don't know about any of the others but Brad Muir definitely plays magic.
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Crackatastic posted:I'm hearing a rumor somewhere that Pharika is looking like: That would rapidly get ugly in Draft with the Cure, Time to Feed, Servant of Tymaret etc. I like it.
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C-Euro posted:Also, EDH is pretty cool you guys- You're adorable.   Not shown: Both the Karador and Sisay players  'ing and then conceding, making Withengar a 39/39 and already equipped with Swiftfoot boots.  EDIT: Post your favorite EDH boardstates.Unfortunately, this was the high point for the deck (Creatureless Jeleva) and I've had a so-so run with it so far and have been considering some new builds to try out.  Some sort of Jund all-comer is on the brain (maybe Prossh deserves another shot), a creature-heavy Ruric Thar list, or - especially after having fun stealing people's stuff with Acquire and Stolen Identity - is there a good UX Clone general? Sakashima seems cool but I don't know about mono-blue.Thoughts? bhsman fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Apr 13, 2014 |
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I've just now come to the conclusion my EDH group is unbearable groggy. They all run massive amounts of board wipes, search and hosers. I've never seen a board state half that interesting, despite my attempts to encourage shenanigans with a grouphug deck (with some very sneaky win conditions hidden in there.)
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Edh Schmedh Why not play Highlander instead. More magic, less politics.
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OH MY GOD I wrote something again!! It's called 'we want women to play our game, or whatever'
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kingcobweb posted:OH MY GOD I wrote something again!! It's called 'we want women to play our game, or whatever' I think you were being too subtle. I'm still not sure what point you were trying to make. Something about vampires being popular?
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Ramos posted:I think you were being too subtle. I'm still not sure what point you were trying to make. Something about vampires being popular? I am scrambling to find that gif of Mr. Gong from the Maxx screaming "Of course I've got a problem with women!" But no luck
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kingcobweb posted:OH MY GOD I wrote something again!! It's called 'we want women to play our game, or whatever' Maybe you meant to go there
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Spiderdrake posted:That was an excellent article until the last part gave me Platy flashbacks. This rings a really distant bell but I don't remember what happened. MT person, right? Was that the Yawgatog thing?
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Did you know that going 4-0 at GP Philly then finishing 5-3 is mildly vexing? but no for real i did so far beyond my expectations that i have little to complain about. only started playing more stuff than fnm this year. now the question is do i hate myself enough to do the sunday sealed series tomorrow  also i cant decide if athreos kills my deck or makes it awesome (BW midrange)
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I'm trying to think what the best options to force your opponent to pay life off the B/W god are. Cartel Aristocrat and Gary, obviously, and Priest of Penance is at least a sideboard option, but what are the really good come into play effects in standard right now?
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ThirdEmperor posted:I'm trying to think what the best options to force your opponent to pay life off the B/W god are. Cartel Aristocrat and Gary, obviously, and Priest of Penance is at least a sideboard option, but what are the really good come into play effects in standard right now? honestly at least in b/w you should be less concerned with CIP effects and more concerned with value creatures your opponent will really hate having to pay 3 life to kill. like seriously playing athreos and not ghost dad is loving criminal
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Zorak posted:So apparently the guy who asked the Conspiracy question at the Magic panel was none other than our very own MinusX. So after being pulled into a cabal and signing some legal papers they recorded me getting the print of Dack. It was pretty cool. Some key questions asked after the panel in a totally hidden room (that they openly announced you could go to to ask more things). - Dack was designed with the fact he won't be standard or modern legal. He's going to be pushed (emphasis their's) - After Jenna left someone asked about the fact everyone is doing story reboots these days, could WotC do a retelling of brother's war? This was met with a "Well, Jenna is gone so anything we say will be wrong...uhhhh. Premending is weird..." but then saying they might be able to do some breadcrumbs and other throwbacks to old characters. While this was being said one of the panelist had this HUGE poo poo eating grin that was very telling. I called him out on it and he said he can't say anything but it was good I noticed that. - We asked if the new card type was what wasn't going to be legal, and they couldn't say. But if we looked closely at the frame we might notice some key differences. Conspiracy (the card type) also are normal sized cards, not plane or scheme sized. I don't expect it to feed the goyf. - Apparently spoiling sets in order are very very very thought out. They don't show what could basically be the next deck right away because they want people to organically absorb the set and build. Each spoiler season is a puzzle that WotC does. (I think fairly well too.) - "Legacy PT?"  - I also asked about crackgate once basically everyone left so that it wasn't a big public thing, and they basically said the dailymtg post from the event crew is how they'd like to handle them. It was said take a handful of people from a sporting event and stick them in the same chairs and you'd have the same issue, and mosr everyone was wearing belts. There was some more I'm forgetting in sure but that's the high points. I'll scan the full art Dack asap.
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ThirdEmperor posted:I'm trying to think what the best options to force your opponent to pay life off the B/W god are. If you don't run out of men he's not going to turn off and then things get troubling fast, especially when the ghosts show up to help.
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Banisher Priest, Keening Apparition and Thrill-Kill Assasin all seem like they'd work pretty well with Athreos.
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Ramos posted:I think you were being too subtle. I'm still not sure what point you were trying to make. Something about vampires being popular? It doesn't seem to me like WOTC's trying to pander to anyone, making clumsy attempts to get women to play or failing women players in any way, so I don't see it either.
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kingcobweb posted:This rings a really distant bell but I don't remember what happened. MT person, right? Was that the Yawgatog thing? Kibler fangirl from #mtg on efnet from way back. Thats all I remember, there might have been something with Yawgatog as well.
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Gather round kids, it's trip report time. Went to a PTQ on the outskirts of London yesterday, sealed deck which made me a bit hesitant, but I'm trying to get points for GP byes. Thought my pool was, eh, okay, went UG since I got Prognostic Sphinx and Polukranos, probably my best individual cards, and a bunch of the commons that make green so strong in the format like Nessian Asp and Sedge Scorpion. Aaaand in the first game I pretty much forgot how to play Magic. Main problem was twice forgetting Prognostic Sphinx's trigger, which might have saved me from a run of land draws. Subsequently lost my first two rounds out of eight, so start considering dropping to play the Standard GPT side event. I decide to play the third round, and after the other guy's first three turns were T1 play a swamp, T2 play a mountain, T3 Discard Fade into Antiquity, I get a win. So I stay in, since I think I'll get more from any PW points I can win than paying more money to take a shot at a GPT. I go on to a six-match streak and finish 6-2, finish in 26th place out of 202 or so, a point away from being in the top twelve. Easily my best result at such a large event, feels good to have been so close to having a shot at being in the Top 8 draft on tiebreakers (but since my loses were early I probably would fall short) and 115 PW points is a big help. Pity about the big wad of BNG boosters they gave me at the end. :| Some memorable moments (besides the mana screw on that Jund player I mentioned) - beating another mana screwed opponent who was one short of being able to Bestow his two Hopeful Eidolon and Eidolon of Countless Battles onto Wingsteed Rider and building a huge flying lifelinker, which probably would have got big enough to get past the Nessian Asp I dropped. -Having a six creature, all Centaur board with Pheres-Band Raiders making GBS threads them out each turn. -Raised by Wolves being incredible. -Completely nobbling a guy's gameplan with a T2 Nullify and a T3 Disolve -Siding in Floodtide Serpent because I didn't read the card properly and thought it could return opponent's enchantments to hand, then find I can use it for ridiculous card advantage with Nylea's Presence.
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BizarroAzrael posted:Gather round kids, it's trip report time. Interesting! Are you going to any GPTs for manchester? If you are I might see you there, I am still debating whether to register for some, considering it's quite near me. It will be my first event bigger than a FNM, I am really worried about it, haha. e: grammar Samael fucked around with this message at 12:44 on Apr 13, 2014 |
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Maha posted:It doesn't seem to me like WOTC's trying to pander to anyone, making clumsy attempts to get women to play or failing women players in any way, so I don't see it either. Yeah, I don't even see what the article is supposed to be satirizing, or what your point is at all. Like, the actual meat of the article seems to be these lines: quote:Look, let’s cut to the chase. We measure our game’s popularity by how many people show up on a Friday night to organized competitive tournaments populated mostly by people who’ve played the game for five years, and all you women are really letting us down. You act like there’s something stopping you from going to these! WotC doesn't measure the game's popularity by tournament attendance any more, that stopped around 2008 when they realize they were alienating all the casual players. They keep putting out products for casual lately, Duel Decks, Commander, Conspiracy -- in fact, Wizards seems to be really focusing on kitchen-table in the last few years, so how is it Wizards' fault that many tournament players are weird nerds?
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Samael posted:Interesting! Are you going to any GPTs for manchester? If you are I might see you there, I am still debating whether to register for some, considering it's quite near me. It will be my first event bigger than a FNM, I am really worried about it, haha.
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Saeku posted:Yeah, I don't even see what the article is supposed to be satirizing, or what your point is at all. Like, the actual meat of the article seems to be these lines: Wizards claims nominally to want women to play their card game, but makes no attempt to foster an environment that's in any way safe or inviting to them. "WotC likes casuals more than tournaments lately" is wayyyy besides the point - it's in their interests to make women feel safe at shops and events, but they don't really care that much.
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Sade posted:Wizards claims nominally to want women to play their card game, but makes no attempt to foster an environment that's in any way safe or inviting to them. "WotC likes casuals more than tournaments lately" is wayyyy besides the point - it's in their interests to make women feel safe at shops and events, but they don't really care that much. What do you think WotC should be doing to make women feel safe at shops and events?
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Saeku posted:What do you think WotC should be doing to make women feel safe at shops and events? Make it clearer in the IPG that Unsporting Conduct - Minor should more frequently apply to cases where a player or spectator is being unsavoury to a female participant. Also add specific mentions of sexism to the JAR document where they mention abusive behaviour. I am currently watching out for a player at my local store that I have had reports of sexism from him both directly to his opponents and indirectly about his opponents to other nearby players, but I am yet to have the chance to witness it myself to make it clear that any comments which seriously hamper the comfort level of other people in the store and drive them away from being a regular is not welcome.
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mehall posted:Make it clearer in the IPG that Unsporting Conduct - Minor should more frequently apply to cases where a player or spectator is being unsavoury to a female participant. Tightening up on Unsporting Conduct - Minor penalties doesn't do much since there isn't a huge difference between verbally cautioning somebody for inappropriate behaviour or issuing a Warning, and the IPG doesn't have any effect on Regular REL tournaments which is most play. I think the IPG is fine as is, and already has a provision that sexist insults are Unsporting Conduct - Major. The issue that I've seen is lack of enforcement on the store judge side, and lack of respect for policy on the player side. I've been called a bitch and told to get back in the kitchen at FNM in front of a L1 judge, brought it up, and the opponent wasn't penalized. The MTG community is unwelcoming to women, but WotC has horrible control over the Magic community (see: crackgate.) That's why I bring up casual play: the best WotC can do is give people ways to play Magic without engaging in the community. Other than that, it's up to the players and stores to get their act together and create a welcoming environment.
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Saeku posted:The MTG community is unwelcoming to women, but WotC has horrible control over the Magic community (see: crackgate.) That's why I bring up casual play: the best WotC can do is give people ways to play Magic without engaging in the community. Other than that, it's up to the players and stores to get their act together and create a welcoming environment. This is true. There's not much Wizards can do outside of sanctioned events. One idea would be to offer more support to stores that provide a better environment for women, but that's a huge mess in terms of actually validating that.
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Saeku posted:The issue that I've seen is lack of enforcement on the store judge side, and lack of respect for policy on the player side. I've been called a bitch and told to get back in the kitchen at FNM in front of a L1 judge, brought it up, and the opponent wasn't penalized. Yeah, that's hosed up, I definitely would have made it clear to your opponent that that wouldn't be accepted if it was clearly not a jest between friends, which it clearly wasn't if you brought it up.
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Gabe is now in the Semifinals of the SCG open  He's a local player from my area so we're all pretty excited about how he's doing.
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mehall posted:Make it clearer in the IPG that Unsporting Conduct - Minor should more frequently apply to cases where a player or spectator is being unsavoury to a female participant. Saeku posted:The MTG community is unwelcoming to women, but WotC has horrible control over the Magic community (see: crackgate.) That's why I bring up casual play: the best WotC can do is give people ways to play Magic without engaging in the community. Other than that, it's up to the players and stores to get their act together and create a welcoming environment.
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Yeah I'm not really sure what WotC could do at this point. I don't think their game is unwelcoming to women, it's just that some players are very grogny. poo poo, I had to explain to a guy at my local game store why using "rape" as a declaration of sound victory is not cool. The best we can hope for is the community making it welcoming where they can.
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A Fancy Bloke posted:Yeah I'm not really sure what WotC could do at this point. I don't think their game is unwelcoming to women, it's just that some players are very grogny. poo poo, I had to explain to a guy at my local game store why using "rape" as a declaration of sound victory is not cool. The best we can hope for is the community making it welcoming where they can. quote:Yeah, that's hosed up, I definitely would have made it clear to your opponent that that wouldn't be accepted if it was clearly not a jest between friends, which it clearly wasn't if you brought it up. Chill la Chill fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Apr 13, 2014 |
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