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Nodelphi posted:Bobby Jindal. Also, Ted Cruz. Plus, it's simply human nature to lack empathy or be greedy. Once racism becomes less of a barrier for some races, or at least when certain races get promoted to "white" status, they tend to forget about privilege rather quickly. See: the fact that there are tons of registered Republican voters of Irish and Italian ancestry.
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Apr 13, 2014 02:02
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Gotta suck the wealth out of somebody. Poors don't have any, middle class has some left, but sooner or later the rich will begin to feed on themselves en mass. Crushing society and buying political candidates is more of an unfortunate side effect of this.
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I think I could be a pretty good GOP pundit. Democracy decimated and demoralized the working class, and elected the wealthy to the only remaining positions of actual power. Therefore democracy is a failure, and turning the reins over to those remaining confident few of real franchise is our only option.
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I mean, no one should be tortured but I have a hard time feeling sympathy for a guy who assaulted the sitting president. Come the gently caress on dude, what did you think was going to happen? It's Darwin awards stuff.
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Apr 13, 2014 02:13
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I don't think George Bush was ever the president of Iraq. And it's a shoe. Two notches above a pie, and more aerodynamic.
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Where the gently caress did that "finite amount of oxygen" poo poo come from, and why are engineers so bad at chemistry?
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So, there is this guy in Nevada that has been illegally grazing cattle on federal land and not paying his fees for 20 years. The federal land management people finally got around to assessing him fines and confiscating the cattle. Apparently this is a horrible thing to right wingers because the federal government something something something... I don't even know. But I keep hearing all these conspiracy theories that Harry Reid's son is in some bizarre land deal with the Chinese for solar power... God only knows. Have the wingnuts been talking about this? It has to be coming from somewhere but I can't honestly tell if it's coming from the "normal" crazy sources or the lizard people/9-11 inside job crazy sources.
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Apr 13, 2014 04:10
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I've been trying to figure that out myself. The only sources I can find are from the crazysphere and to be honest, if an infowars reporter claimed that 2+2=4 I'd pull out a calculator to double check.
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Apr 13, 2014 04:15
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Anubis posted:So, there is this guy in Nevada that has been illegally grazing cattle on federal land and not paying his fees for 20 years. The federal land management people finally got around to assessing him fines and confiscating the cattle. Apparently this is a horrible thing to right wingers because the federal government something something something... I don't even know. But I keep hearing all these conspiracy theories that Harry Reid's son is in some bizarre land deal with the Chinese for solar power... God only knows. Dude it comes from Infowars enough said. But maybe I am from the government, agenda21, the NWO or the illuminati so don't trust me at all. 
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Apr 13, 2014 04:18
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I think it really shows how worthless they are as a news organization. A sale of public land like that would have some sort of publicly accessible record. It might be true, really, but give me some evidence!
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Lowtechs posted:Dude it comes from Infowars enough said. But maybe I am from the government, agenda21, the NWO or the illuminati so don't trust me at all. Fair enough, just knowing it comes from infowars actually helps me a ton. I just couldn't find where the hell this particular crazy was born, which makes it hard to judge and potentially argue against. Thanks for the help, people who aren't completely crazy and are just parroting things because they hate Reid can be flipped on it pretty easy then. People who are chemtrail idiots I tend to leave alone because I'm not qualified to prescribe medication.
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Apr 13, 2014 04:22
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I saw a couple of tweets about that story by DRUDGE being all like "FEDS BACK OFF IN NEVADA RANCH WAR" or something like that. Some militia guys showed up to support the rancher in his fight against BIG GOVERNMENT, and they backed off, fearing a public safety issue. According to Reuters they gave the guy his cattle back and most of the crowd dispersed. http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/12/us-usa-ranchers-nevada-idUSBREA3B03Q20140412 quote:U.S. officials ended a stand-off with hundreds of armed protesters in the Nevada desert on Saturday, calling off the government's roundup of cattle it said were illegally grazing on federal land and giving about 300 animals back to the rancher who owned them. The original militia that showed up to help him consisted of three guys, but a bunch of other people joined in after word started to spread. It looks like no one was hurt, thank goodness, but who knows if the guy will continue grazing his cattle on federal land. This latest push by the government came after he expanded his range to new federal lands further out from the original place he and the government have been fighting over since 1998.
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Apr 13, 2014 04:23
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I was really hoping for shenanigans involving Papier Mâché cows or cardboard cutouts. By the time Infowars realized what's up, the real cows would already be on route to Washington DC. The White House is serving steak tonight.
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Leofish posted:It looks like no one was hurt, thank goodness, but who knows if the guy will continue grazing his cattle on federal land.
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beatlegs posted:The feds have now shown themselves to be pushovers so of course he will. Hopefully they'll try again once all the militia morons clear out.
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beatlegs posted:The feds have now shown themselves to be pushovers so of course he will. Yeah pretty much. Although, to be fair, I wouldn't have started a violent confrontation their either since its a bunch of cows. Since I'm assuming building a functional fence or something sensible is out of the question for the Government why not respond in the most childish way possible and take some military hardware for a spin on the property.
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Apr 13, 2014 04:38
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The map on infowars shows the solar energy area they talk about as being on the other side of a Indian reservation from Bunkerville which is apparently where this farce is taking place.
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Barudak posted:Yeah pretty much. Although, to be fair, I wouldn't have started a violent confrontation their either since its a bunch of cows. Since I'm assuming building a functional fence or something sensible is out of the question for the Government why not respond in the most childish way possible and take some military hardware for a spin on the property. This is rural Nevada, he's probably buzzed by every operational aircraft type in the USAF inventory already.
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StandardVC10 posted:This is rural Nevada, he's probably buzzed by every operational aircraft type in the USAF inventory already. Less aircraft and more an excruciatingly scientific determination of various tanks ability to suppress cow insurgents in a non-urban setting. Plan: Holstein
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It will be interesting to see if this makes the rounds on the big talk shows this week, as some sort of patriotic victory of some constitutional right to use land that is owned by the government or something. The feds backed off when a bunch of dudes with guns showed up and started blocking roads, so maybe Obama and his jackbooted cronies can be defeated after all! I wonder if the buzz from this apparent "win" is going to push some of these militia guys into further confrontations with federal authorities. It's sometimes easy to think, "what a bunch of nutjobs" but a bunch of people getting shot for having too much bravado (or using that to shoot other people) wouldn't be good for anyone.
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If conservatism ever comes to mean insurrection, it's over for the GOP. The fact that Alex Jones has a place in the modern GOP means they've lost their handle on things, have lost any semblance of coherency, and have started placing big bets on whatever they can find. The base are basically law&order types and they won't be able to reconcile that with any of this loving nuttiness. Good for generating energy, fatal for maintaining a lasting voter base.
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Apr 13, 2014 05:10
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It's already been mentioned in the USA politics thread, but the feds are going to pick him up next time he's in town or something similar.
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agarjogger posted:I don't think George Bush was ever the president of Iraq. And it's a shoe. Two notches above a pie, and more aerodynamic. It was more because he embarassed Maliki than anything to do with Bush. Maliki is well on his way to dictatorship, having Zaydi beaten was just one of his baby steps.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:I'm sure we just have to wait a couple standoffs for a militia dipshit to fire first. They already covered that on Infowars. Everyone knows that the feds have infiltrators everywhere just waiting for the perfect opportunity to discredit the movement with a false flag attack. They didn't have an opportunity this time, but they're always there.
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Phone posted:It's already been mentioned in the USA politics thread, but the feds are going to pick him up next time he's in town or something similar. It's hard to follow what I've seen where, but isn't that just (perhaps well-informed) speculation?
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beatlegs posted:The feds have now shown themselves to be pushovers so of course he will. I guess now everybody knows how to show up at the next Occupy.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:They already covered that on Infowars. Everyone knows that the feds have infiltrators everywhere just waiting for the perfect opportunity to discredit the movement with a false flag attack. They didn't have an opportunity this time, but they're always there. Well yeah, the kind of person already predisposed to believe that kind of bullshit would believe that, but they'd believe that no matter what.
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Apr 13, 2014 05:29
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Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:Was there an official comment on why they stood down? The official reason was that the operation was a risk to public safety. I guess someone realized that they were one gunshot away from a bloodbath on live TV.
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/thegameofpolitics/the-game-of-politics http://www.thegameofpolitics.net/board.html
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:The official reason was that the operation was a risk to public safety. Staring down 1000 nutjobs would have been about the dickwaviest way to address the situation. Just throw your hands up, say fine, let them disperse and then grab the guy in a week and throw him down a dark hole until his court date. Its a nice clear message too, "Want to show up with guns? Fine, you'll waste your gas money and we will just do what we were gonna once you leave. Guns don't win waiting games."
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Facebook's been on a roll today.
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stoutfish posted:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/thegameofpolitics/the-game-of-politics I wonder how many of those photos he actually has licenses to. And god drat that is one ugly game board. edit: It's a jump to conclusions mat VideoTapir fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Apr 13, 2014 |
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Typical Pubbie posted:Facebook's been on a roll today. I, too, find the militarization of police distressing.
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I heard a decent amount about the Cliven Bundy story this past week on the mid-tier radio shows, and it was interesting that the hosts generally weren't really supportive of him (although the callers definitely were). Laura Ingraham actually had him on to present his case, and he sounded exactly like a sovereign citizen nut-job. Roger Hedgecock was also pretty down on him. I wonder if they'll change their tune now that the feds stood down.
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Azuth0667 posted:Probably because they already had to prove they had an ID when they registered to vote so this is useless cumbersome redundancy that only serves to disenfranchise and inconvenience voters.
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BarkingSquirrel posted:Funny, when I moved to Tennessee all I had to do to register to vote was to sign a form that boiled down to "Yup, I live in this state and county. Sure do, I promise!". Its almost as if you have no idea what you're talking about. Almost. Where was this in TN, considering the states I know all require either a drivers/state ID number or your social security number. edit: TN requires SSN. esto es malo fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Apr 13, 2014 |
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BarkingSquirrel posted:Funny, when I moved to Tennessee all I had to do to register to vote was to sign a form that boiled down to "Yup, I live in this state and county. Sure do, I promise!". Its almost as if you have no idea what you're talking about. Almost. You're objectively wrong, in basically every way. Everywhere requires, at least, your SSN and near everywhere needs id too.
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