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Someone make the matchday thread so I can moan about Villa's lovely defensive line-up against Palace.
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Frankston posted:Someone make the matchday thread so I can moan about Villa's lovely defensive line-up against Palace. First to mention it has to post it, get typing mate!
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Apr 12, 2014 14:45
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Matchday thread
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Apr 12, 2014 15:01
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Apr 12, 2014 15:05
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FullLeatherJacket posted:Don't forget the time Liverpool fans organised a massive campaign to get a violent thug out of prison on the basis that he was scouse and that the man who'd been left with permanent brain damage wasn't scouse at all, and was in fact foreign.
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Apr 12, 2014 15:18
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My desire to see Pardew go has finally overtaken my fear of whatever boneheaded replacement Ashley will appoint. The man is abysmal.  Sadly Ashley's unlikely to care as long as we're under no threat of relegation, so it's a pointless hope, but I hope he's gone by summer.
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Apr 12, 2014 21:25
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Who is going to work under the contract Ashley wants though? Pardew did it because he was out of a job so I imagine it would be the same for the manager. Clipboard Chris back in 
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Apr 12, 2014 21:29
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Whats Glenn Roeder up to?
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Apr 12, 2014 21:40
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Its probably about time for Keegan to have another go isn't it?
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Apr 12, 2014 21:42
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Blue Screen Error posted:Its probably about time for Keegan to have another go isn't it? We've got a bit to go, there were 6 full time managers between his first and second stints. If you don't count Shearer, we're only up to 3! Edit: I also looked it up and Roeder had almost the same win percentage as Robson
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Apr 12, 2014 22:26
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Didn't catch the Fulham-Norwich game, how did Norwich play?
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Apr 12, 2014 22:43
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Deketh posted:Didn't catch the Fulham-Norwich game, how did Norwich play?
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Apr 12, 2014 22:48
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Deketh posted:Didn't catch the Fulham-Norwich game, how did Norwich play? We returned to the diamond we used in the Championship under Lambert. Looked better going forward than usual but were nervy and because of the formation we lacked width and didn't have the invention to create anything through a congested middle. Stockdale pulled off two great saves and Snodgrass hit the bar with a free kick but really it was just another one of those days where we could have played all evening without scoring. St Evan Echoes posted:They were good and unlucky. If they had bought a competent striker instead of the Wolf they'd be safe by now Hughton brought in 6 strikers during his reign and they scored 8 goals between them, his tactics halved Holt's scoring rate, made him want to leave and drove Morison to literal depression, even if we had a competent striker they would score gently caress all.
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Apr 12, 2014 23:00
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They should have sacked Hughton 6 weeks ago by the looks of things. Will be sad to see you guys go, now where will Leeds players graduate to?
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Apr 12, 2014 23:03
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Can't believe Norwich lost that game. Crazy. Btw if anyone is watching motd Ince and fowler are a new low. Apparently anyone who played for Liverpool at, Erm, any point, can, you know, can become a f-f-footy pundit even, even, if, if they, if, if they can't string a, you know, senten, er, sentence together.
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Apr 12, 2014 23:06
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stickyfngrdboy posted:Can't believe Norwich lost that game. Crazy.
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Apr 12, 2014 23:07
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I dont understand how Lambert was so good at Norwich but has been so mind bogglingly bad at Villa. The "you don't know what your doing" line gets trotted out a lot when teams and managers are struggling, but I think in this case it looks genuinely true.
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Apr 12, 2014 23:08
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St Evan Echoes posted:They're trying to show that Hansen and Shearer aren't so bad after all Hansen at least has an entertaining "gently caress you" quality to his punditry. And anything's better than Shearer.
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Apr 12, 2014 23:11
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Dekko posted:I dont understand how Lambert was so good at Norwich but has been so mind bogglingly bad at Villa. He's not been bad at Villa though really, he's doing as well as you'd expect results wise from a club that was in an a proper state when he took over and is now desperately trying to cut costs. It is weird how his style of play has gone a bit backwards and his tactical versatility seems to have disappeared though.
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Apr 12, 2014 23:16
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tarbrush posted:And anything's better than Shearer. Except Keown.
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Apr 12, 2014 23:24
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Gene Ricman posted:Except Keown. I think I hate the Arsenal pundits more than anyone else, Keown is a poo poo and whenever Ian Wright is on ITV he just laughs a lot.
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Apr 12, 2014 23:31
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Villa's players are poo poo and the ones Lambert purchased are mostly injured. It all comes down to that. Being forced to play one of Clark and Baker is the worst. They are both awful. Ron Vlaar is the only good defender in our team and he's mediocre.
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Apr 12, 2014 23:41
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Charlie Adam is even uglier with that mask on, Jesus Christ
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Apr 12, 2014 23:46
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mynameisjohn posted:Villa's players are poo poo and the ones Lambert purchased are mostly injured. It all comes down to that. Being forced to play one of Clark and Baker is the worst. They are both awful. Ron Vlaar is the only good defender in our team and he's mediocre. I used to want Villa to get relegated as I find it funny when big(ish) clubs go down but I play football with a Villa supporter and he is both a really good dude and a great player so I kinda want them to do well now. I also quite like Lambert. You guys have been seriously hosed by injuries this season so it's actually pretty difficult to judge if Lambert is doing a decent job or there's been much in the way of progression. My mate gets frustrated with the change of formations all the time but is that more to do with injury issues or tinkering?
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Apr 12, 2014 23:50
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8raz posted:Let's not forget you'd be arguing his innocence if you'd have been born 10 years earlier or so! It doesn't matter in the slightest who he supports, if some United fans went on a piss-up tour through Europe and decide to smash a paving slab over somebody's head for no reason other than that he was doing his job, they'd be welcome to go stay in prison for a very long time and I'd be utterly embarrassed if anyone from the club had anything to do with any campaign or fundraising on their behalf.
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Apr 13, 2014 01:57
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Ewar Woowar posted:My mate gets frustrated with the change of formations all the time but is that more to do with injury issues or tinkering? Mainly because of injuries or some of the players have a shocker and they don't deserve to play the next game. Guzan, Vlaar, Delph, Benteke, Gabby are our only real starters. Weimann has been horrible this season, Okore, Kozak and Benteke are all dead, and most of the other players are too inconsistent or just Bad At Football. I can't see Betrand coming to us this Summer after what he's seen, despite the fact he could end up being a solid starter.
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Apr 13, 2014 02:13
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The thing is, I don't think Villa have a particularly bad squad (I think Lambert actually has a good eye for players). Its certainly better than Palace and Fulham's, the difference being those two have managers who can organise a team and motivate them, which is why they've both done the double over us and looked comfortable in doing so. Lambert doesn't have any kind of recognisable style of play that he's developed, aside from abandoning the passing, attacking football we finished last season with replacing it with Get It To The Big Lad. He approaches every single game the same way (sit back and counterattack) and looks stumped when we come up against a team that does the same. He doesn't make proactive substitutions, he waits until we're a goal down before taking off a creative player and putting on another Big Lad (normally Jordan Bowery, a guy who wasn't even scoring goals in League 2 when we bought him). Not even the players can tell what he's trying to do, they just run about a bit, no sense of discipline or organisation. Its not all him though, the way the team can't hold on to the ball or pass accurately over 5 yards implies the coaches are poo poo as well.
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Apr 13, 2014 07:59
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pdog posted:I think I hate the Arsenal pundits more than anyone else, Keown is a poo poo and whenever Ian Wright is on ITV he just laughs a lot. Dixon is good.
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Apr 13, 2014 08:11
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Dekko posted:The thing is, I don't think Villa have a particularly bad squad (I think Lambert actually has a good eye for players). Its certainly better than Palace and Fulham's, the difference being those two have managers who can organise a team and motivate them, which is why they've both done the double over us and looked comfortable in doing so. It's seriously shocking how incompetent we are at the very basics. This is a Premiership team and we literally struggle to make simple passes or retain possession. I don't know if it's the coaches or the players are just bad. Not only that but injuries seem to be sky-rocketing as well, just poor conditioning or bad luck? Very occasionally we pull out a great performance and look like top 6 material, but I've reached the point now where I think that those occasions are purely bizarre flukes and we are just a really lovely team from top to bottom - the owner, the staff, the coaches, Lambert and the players. Our defence is woefully inexperienced and calamitous, thank god for Guzan. There's a reason he won our player of the year last season over Benteke. Baker and Clark are really awful and are not Premiership quality and if one or both of them is playing then I lose all confidence in any kind of result. I was thrilled when we signed Okore, absolutely gutted when he got injured for the season. The midfield is far too lightweight and can't tackle or pass. I don't know what's going on with our forwards. Benteke has had a poor season (by last year's standards) and ended up getting injured. Agbonlahor needs to go. His one attribute - speed - is disappearing and without that he's nothing. Weimann has had a woeful season. Kozak looked pretty promising but again, a bad injury. I still don't think we'll get relegated but the fans are starting to turn on Lambert. It'll be interesting to see what he does over the summer.
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Apr 13, 2014 10:22
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The fans should be turning on Lerner not Lambert imo
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Apr 13, 2014 10:35
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Gabby is a good one on one finisher, better than for example england regular Danny Welbeck
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Apr 13, 2014 11:34
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Apr 13, 2014 11:37
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Subtle
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Apr 13, 2014 11:42
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FullLeatherJacket posted:It doesn't matter in the slightest who he supports, if some United fans went on a piss-up tour through Europe and decide to smash a paving slab over somebody's head for no reason other than that he was doing his job, they'd be welcome to go stay in prison for a very long time and I'd be utterly embarrassed if anyone from the club had anything to do with any campaign or fundraising on their behalf.
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Apr 13, 2014 19:21
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Blue Screen Error posted:The fans should be turning on Lerner not Lambert imo I think Lerner deserves a lot of stick too, but it isn't him who picks the team, formation and tactics. Even if we ignore the two terrible league seasons - in Lambert's tenure we've been knocked out of the FA cup by Millwall, followed by Sheffield United. We lost a two legged semi final to a league 2 club - in the second leg we were taking them apart for the first hour, they couldn't handle crosses in to Benteke from out wide, and it was only luck and good goalkeeping that meant we were 1-0 up instead of 4. They got a flukey equaliser, and instead of carrying on as we were, he took off our most creative player for another Big Lad, and ended the game with our defenders punting long balls up the pitch to 4 strikers stood still in the penalty area, we barely created another chance. That sort of thing wasn't an isolated incident either. A lack of investment can explain struggling in the league. Things like the above are down to poo poo management and poo poo coaching.
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Apr 13, 2014 20:11
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Lambert had a variety of players at Norwich that allowed him to change tactics and formation quite a bit that he just doesn't have at Villa. He plays a counter attack system at Villa because that's the best system for the players at his disposal. Lerner hasn't invested in the squad since O'Neill left.
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Apr 13, 2014 22:32
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Subtitles of what Gerrard said in the huddle at the end: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBh_KRi-yCE
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Apr 13, 2014 23:52
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Hoops posted:Subtitles of what Gerrard said in the huddle at the end: I hope he didn't mean comedy defending when he said exactly the same.
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Apr 14, 2014 00:13
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Hoops posted:Subtitles of what Gerrard said in the huddle at the end: I think he said "this is done," not "this is gone."
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