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doomfunk posted:Dual Zoren are pretty great. They're like the poor man's Dual Ichors, with the added bonus of the zorencopter technique. I think I might be literally the only heretic in here who thinks zorencoptering looks really dumb and can't bring myself to do it. Don't hurt me guys, I'm not a bad guy I promise.
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Ice Fist posted:I think I might be literally the only heretic in here who thinks zorencoptering looks really dumb and can't bring myself to do it. Don't worry Ice Fist here's how you make it fun. Play Volt, and use Speed when the people zorencoptering are in the middle of doing it for a jump.
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Should we start a collective spreadsheet of stuff available for trade / giveaway so there's No Goon Left Behind on the wargrind?
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I don't carry the Zoren at all because if I wanted to be zorencoptering I'd actually be playing Excal or Zephyr and be doing the same poo poo but better. Or be Valkyr and ripline everywhere because gently caress boundaries. e: Yeah, that's right. I called them pretty great but I don't use them. I stand by this assessment.
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Doji Sekushi posted:Public service announcement for all the new ps4 people: Working on the clan key now. I failed my rank test this morning because I thought I was supposed to stay inside the circle which wasted a bunch of time. Hopefully I'll be rank two sometime on tuesday. I've been running in the vauban, I heard it was fairly decent, and I'm enjoying it so far.
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DiverTwig posted:Working on the clan key now. I failed my rank test this morning because I thought I was supposed to stay inside the circle which wasted a bunch of time. Hopefully I'll be rank two sometime on tuesday. I've been running in the vauban, I heard it was fairly decent, and I'm enjoying it so far. Smart man. Vauban is my favorite damned frame. Not a super dps-type but he absolutely owns defenses (well, along with Nyx). Either way, extremely fun frame. I can throw a couple mods your way that'll benefit him.
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sleeptalker posted:If you get berserker and fury and true steel on them and cast speed you can attack faster than you can probably press the button and also copter across multiple rooms so maybe. doomfunk posted:Dual Zoren are pretty great. They're like the poor man's Dual Ichors, with the added bonus of the zorencopter technique.
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TheRationalRedditor posted:I might even use a catalyst on this joint until I can get the Soma! I have a Gakata with a Catalyst in it. it's not good enough to justify the investment because almost every other weapon at lower levels can deal equal amounts of damage more reliably than the Grakata, especially when you factor in the meandering recoil. You're really better off with just saving any Catalyst you might have for the Soma because it's so much better than the Grakata and nearly every level.
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[quote="TheRationalRedditor" post=""42826101"] How exactly do you get the ichors? I don't really know what the "research" aspect of the game is yet. [/quote] Clan dojo bio lab. You buy the blueprint there and build it like any other weapon. The only caveat is it requires a few mutagen masses which you can get from invasions or building them by buying the blueprint in the same lab.
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TheRationalRedditor posted:I've actually been rocking both but never seen Berserker, coptering is a compulsive need and I'm never not doing it already, haha. Your clan builds a lab and starts researching them. People contribute resources to the research and once it's finished you can replicate the blueprint at the lab so you can build your own. The Ichors are pretty fun.
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New Concept Hole posted:I have a Gakata with a Catalyst in it. it's not good enough to justify the investment because almost every other weapon at lower levels can deal equal amounts of damage more reliably than the Grakata, especially when you factor in the meandering recoil. You're really better off with just saving any Catalyst you might have for the Soma because it's so much better than the Grakata and nearly every level. Doji Sekushi posted:Clan dojo bio lab. You buy the blueprint there and build it like any other weapon. The only caveat is it requires a few mutagen masses which you can get from invasions or building them by buying the blueprint in the same lab. Improbable Lobster posted:Your clan builds a lab and starts researching them. People contribute resources to the research and once it's finished you can replicate the blueprint at the lab so you can build your own.
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necrobobsledder posted:Should we start a collective spreadsheet of stuff available for trade / giveaway so there's No Goon Left Behind on the wargrind? I'd say yes. I've got stuff to welfare off still, tenno salvation army office will be open anytime I'm online.
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When you consider every other rifle can fire nigh recoilless into the target's weak spot at nearly any range to great effect while Grakata will struggle beyond medium range, the gaps in effectiveness begin to show. It's why the Soma is so much better in the first place; controllable recoil, ramping rate of fire, and much higher damage than 98% of the primaries in the game. The Grakata might critical a lot, but it's still not stacking up to the raw damage of the Hind, Karak, or Boltor against Infestation, Corpus, or Grineer, respectively.
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About the new melee system, is there some sort of combo mechanic even without stance mods? There was a comment somewhere about building up a damaage bonus with combos or something, but it was a bit vague. Anyways, melee 2.0 is great so far. Been having fun smashing poo poo with the Galatine. Nothing's quite as satisfying as cleaving a Grineer in two with the jump attack.
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Nordick posted:About the new melee system, is there some sort of combo mechanic even without stance mods? If you equip your weapon and start hitting dudes a little number in the lower right hand corner of your screen will count the number of "hits" you've done and at certain benchmarks you get multipliers to damage/attackspeed/etc. As far as moves, "mash E as much as you can" is the order of the day. It's like that even with stances because the special moves are kind of mostly useless. Reflection/Blocking owns though, just hold down RMB with your weapon out and a reflection/stamina build and watch dudes kill themselves shooting at you. You can even block the effects of grineer door and arc traps! Your sentinel will still take the hits though. I've even blocked bleed/burn damage. Wales Grey fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Apr 13, 2014 |
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New Concept Hole posted:When you consider every other rifle can fire nigh recoilless into the target's weak spot at nearly any range to great effect while Grakata will struggle beyond medium range, the gaps in effectiveness begin to show. It's why the Soma is so much better in the first place; controllable recoil, ramping rate of fire, and much higher damage than 98% of the primaries in the game. The Grakata might critical a lot, but it's still not stacking up to the raw damage of the Hind, Karak, or Boltor against Infestation, Corpus, or Grineer, respectively.  v
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Wales Grey posted:If you equip your weapon and start hitting dudes a little number in the lower right hand corner of your screen will count the number of "hits" you've done and at certain benchmarks you get multipliers to damage/attackspeed/etc.  Mashing E is what I've been doing, and using channeling to help with heavies. My biggest issue is that the game "stores" the keypresses and my character will just keep swinging eventhough I'm trying to do a jump attack or just bail. Gonna take some getting used to. Gonna have to learn to block, I mean "hold RMB" isn't the hard part, but actually remembering to do it and picking up the habit. Thanks a bunch for the advice.  On a sidenote, soloing a lvl ~20 grineer extermination in Ceres as a rank 20 Valkyr with a rank 4 Dex Furis and a rank 18 Galatine can get just a tiny bit hairy.
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I'm using swirling tiger with the zoren and the extent of combo powers seems to be pausing slightly after the first 2 swings, then you do a rad dance. Do any stances have more than one main combo?
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TheRationalRedditor posted:I'm using swirling tiger with the zoren and the extent of combo powers seems to be pausing slightly after the first 2 swings, then you do a rad dance. Do any stances have more than one main combo? The weaboolade stance has three, because nerds love katanas.
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Combos are all basically worthless because you do a bunch of dumb flips and poo poo, just mash E and use the stances as free points.
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TheRationalRedditor posted:I don't doubt it but it's the Grakata I'm going to be using for the next few days because I don't have anything else! v Boost crit, crit damage, status chance, fire rate, and ammo. Then spec for the damage type of what ever enemy you're going after. People love to bitch about the gun, but it's fun to level. Forma it a couple of times and it becomes really fun when you squirt a boss and they die leaving the pubbies wondering wtf just happened.
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Gonna get an Ash, take the (Dragon) Nikana, some Kunai (or Despair if Stalker would ever drop em  ) and go full-on Space Ninja. 
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TheRationalRedditor posted:I don't doubt it but it's the Grakata I'm going to be using for the next few days because I don't have anything else! v If you keep sassing me with your, "I'm new and don't have infinite resources" I'm gonna drag you through Ceres so fast your head will spin. 
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Piell posted:Combos are all basically worthless because you do a bunch of dumb flips and poo poo, just mash E and use the stances as free points. You're pretty wrong. I mean I guess if you hate multi-hit AOE attacks and also hate fun then I guess yeah, just keep banging your head into the E button. I mean, it's not some super sophisticated fighting system, but they are also not worthless. Swirling tiger in particular is pretty amazing for mulching large groups. Edit: I will say that the thing I was most pumped about, the scythe kick, is loving impossible to land and yeah, is therefore worthless/a waste of time and therefore ymmv from combo to combo. Ice Fist fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Apr 14, 2014 |
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doomfunk posted:Dual Zoren are pretty great. They're like the poor man's Dual Ichors, with the added bonus of the zorencopter technique. A new age of flight (and hallway heroism) has begun.
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The real secret to making the Grakata good is to get as much status chance on it and give it viral.
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Ice Fist posted:You're pretty wrong. I mean I guess if you hate multi-hit AOE attacks and also hate fun then I guess yeah, just keep banging your head into the E button. I mean, it's not some super sophisticated fighting system, but they are also not worthless. Swirling tiger in particular is pretty amazing for mulching large groups. The issue that I have is that the melee system still feels like it was taped on to the game rather than made a core feature. Much like everything DE's done outside the idea "You are a space ninja in a game that features tenuous ties and shout-outs to our previous game." Devour or Fire posted:The real secret to making the Grakata good is to get as much status chance on it and give it viral. Magnus/Akmagnus are also a rad gun for delivering status ailments, 40% base chance.
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New Concept Hole posted:I have a Gakata with a Catalyst in it. it's not good enough to justify the investment because almost every other weapon at lower levels can deal equal amounts of damage more reliably than the Grakata, especially when you factor in the meandering recoil. You're really better off with just saving any Catalyst you might have for the Soma because it's so much better than the Grakata and nearly every level. Wales Grey posted:Reflection/Blocking owns though, just hold down RMB with your weapon out and a reflection/stamina build and watch dudes kill themselves shooting at you. You can even block the effects of grineer door and arc traps! Your sentinel will still take the hits though. I've even blocked bleed/burn damage.
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So um, these "Dark Sectors" that supposedly haven't been explored in forever somehow have pristine, functioning Corpus gas cities built in them complete with corpus propaganda banners, etc. 
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Did a random tower 3 defense with some pubbies by chance. The stalker appeared and died quickly. He dropped slash dash... and the despair blueprint  It's only taken months of playing this game for him to finally do that.
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Mercury_Storm posted:So um, these "Dark Sectors" that have supposedly haven't been explored in forever somehow have pristine, functioning Corpus gas cities built in them complete with corpus propaganda banners, etc. I'm really hoping they put in a new tileset for them.
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seiferguy posted:Did a random tower 3 defense with some pubbies by chance. The stalker appeared and died quickly. He dropped slash dash... and the despair blueprint Grats, jerk still hasn't given me Despair.
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Word, I have some questions: A) Is Frost Rad? B) Is Volt Rad? C) Is The Miter Rad? I've got a frost prime cookin in the space oven so really I'm just looking to figure out what to expect. Volt looks cool, what with running fast, but he could also be awful. The Miter shoots sawblades, which is space-hilarious, but it could also suck.
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FirstPersonShitter posted:Word, I have some questions: All Warframes are Rad. A) Frost is Rad. Not as Rad as he used to be but he's still great at defence and has a good powerset. B) Volt is Rad. Speed makes melee hilarious, Electric Shield buffs anything you shoot through it to a ridiculous degree. No idea on the Miter.
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The Miter is the most underpowered weapon in the game. Besides, maybe, the Vulkar.
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The three worst weapons in the game from worst to not as worst are the Spectra, The Miter, and The Vulkar. Leave it to DE to make a gun that fires loving sawblades suck so god damned much. Not to mention the fact that it's a pain in the rear end to farm up.
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Patware posted:I'm really hoping they put in a new tileset for them. Just about anything that's not a blatant copy-paste would be nice. But perhaps that's asking too much from a team that just (tried) to put in deteriorating crafting materials and the most basic of new content locked behind hours or farming. I remember when SquareEnix made these fantastic "New Dimensions!!" for Final Fantasy XI, and all they were was the existing zones used for towns that had the NPCs replaced with monsters with inflated stats. You had to farm these town zones for months to get armor and like a million alternate dimension coins to get your best weapon. Even that was more inspired than 'Dark Sectors'. Mercury_Storm fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Apr 14, 2014 |
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Piell posted:Combos are all basically worthless because you do a bunch of dumb flips and poo poo, just mash E and use the stances as free points. Dumb flips and poo poo usually correspond to getting 2-3 full strength attacks in during the same time you would get 1 by mashing. Crazy dashes usually correspond to wide swing arcs, and slow attacks usually correspond to nearly guaranteed status procs (usually bleed, the greatest status). Some combos are pretty good. Patware posted:I'm really hoping they put in a new tileset for them. I hope not. I mean, yeah, they should have some tweaks to the tiles to make them seem run down. But the last thing Warframe needs is tying tilesets even tighter to specific level ranges and player goals. Being able to switch between tilesets while in pursuit of the same goal does wonders to reduce the sameness of running through corridors.
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FirstPersonShitter posted:Word, I have some questions: Frost is rad. gently caress around with the +/- range mods. You can go from a 2-foot bubble that is entirely useless to a snowglobe that covers half the map. Volt is rad. Go for max range ult and destroy entire maps of corpus. Miter is not rad 
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FirstPersonShitter posted:A) Is Frost Rad? Mercury_Storm posted:So um, these "Dark Sectors" that supposedly haven't been explored in forever somehow have pristine, functioning Corpus gas cities built in them complete with corpus propaganda banners, etc. Current lore? Yes, current lore! I don't mean things like turning off life support on a PLANET. That's incongruity. I'm talking about Hekmek making EAGLE NOISES when it jumps around. This man is your FRIEND! He fights for GRINEER FREEDOM!
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