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-Atom- posted:I don't know if stepping on people's neck after a fight and spitting in someone's face during one makes them a 'Cool Gracie'. I'd never heard about this. I just know that he doesn't buy into his family's marketing and he's willing to evolve, he's humble, gives credit where it's due, and is better at MMA than most. Like, if you want to know something about the family history or family politics, you'd ask Renzo, because he'll give it to you without bias and without trying to sell you anything. He's also apparently funny in two languages at once which I imagine would be tricky. I thought the live tweeting thing was funny though.
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Ben Spijkers fight in the WCC and Shungo Oyama fight in Pride respectively for the neck stepping and spitting. In the Oyama fight he does a lot of lovely antics, but also just straight up spits on his opponent while shaping up on the feet.
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Which is dumber grappling/fighting after a botched weight cut or driving an F1 Grand Prix? http://jalopnik.com/f1-driver-jean-eric-vergne-was-hospitalized-after-starv-1559375341
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I guess 20lb is a lot at that level but wow. 6ft 152 is not possibly "pretty fat". So either he was making a dry joke or has some body image issues. I remember when Danica patrick started racing and the espn talking heads were debating if her smaller size would be a noticeable advantage.
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Xguard86 posted:I guess 20lb is a lot at that level but wow. 6ft 152 is not possibly "pretty fat". So either he was making a dry joke or has some body image issues. Drivers are pretty intense when it comes to their size. Jenson button was at like 6% body fat in 2013 and he dropped 6kgs some how in the offseason. Mark Webber was considered big for an f1 driver and he was about 155 pounds and 184cm tall.
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BlindSite posted:Drivers are pretty intense when it comes to their size. Jenson button was at like 6% body fat in 2013 and he dropped 6kgs some how in the offseason. Mark Webber was considered big for an f1 driver and he was about 155 pounds and 184cm tall. meanwhile...  I knew you couldn't be a tubbo to drive, for many reasons, but I wasn't aware it was near horse jockey levels. Kinda sucks since I'm sure there's some dolph lundgren sized dude out there with serious talent that never got a seat.
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Mark Webber has some freakishly skinny legs. He competes in the the adventure races too (running, mountain biking, kayaking type events that run for a week).
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Royler Gracie: Still a turd http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/4/12/5602330/royler-gracie-eddie-bravo-metamoris-3-mma-news
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Yuriy posted:Royler Gracie: Still a turd Considering his being a Gracie, he comes off ok in this article imo
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Marching Powder posted:Considering his being a Gracie, he comes off ok in this article imo "I dominated the first 10 minutes of the fight" "Nothing he did was impressive" "Him beating me in ADCCs was not him winning it was me making a mistake" "He can't submit people with the moves he used". Sorry he still comes off as a shithead. Oh also he mentioned he was almost 50 about ten times. Eddie is only 5 years younger.
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I'll give royler the first part of the match since he was turning Eddie purple under the pressure but after that it was a 10th planet clinic.
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In the 10 minutes Royler was on top, he couldn't pass guard, get any close sub attempts, or do anything but squeeze Eddie's head. In the 10 minutes Eddie was on top he passed guard, had Royler's back, and had at least three serious sub attempts. I've said it many times before but there's a huge division between Helio's side of the family and Carlson's, and the main difference is that Helio's side seems to have all the self-delusional whiners.
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All Gracies are on my poo poo list until I've seem them be cool/found out about them being cool. Gracie until proven innocent.
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Pocket Billiards posted:Ben Spijkers fight in the WCC and Shungo Oyama fight in Pride respectively for the neck stepping and spitting. In the Oyama fight he does a lot of lovely antics Like what, exactly, because I don't remember any "lovely antics" in the Oyama fight Spijkers spend the entire night before the WCC fight phoning Renzo's hotel room and calling his wife a whore so I'm gonna give him a pass on that one.
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fatherdog posted:Like what, exactly, because I don't remember any "lovely antics" in the Oyama fight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY6Cnhrdq9w so I guess being a piece of poo poo, according to you, doesn't necessarily require motivation
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-Atom- posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY6Cnhrdq9w lmao this is what people are bitching over? He didn't even spit on him.
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fatherdog posted:I've said it many times before but there's a huge division between Helio's side of the family and Carlson's, and the main difference is that Helio's side seems to have all the self-delusional whiners.
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fatherdog posted:In the 10 minutes Royler was on top, he couldn't pass guard, get any close sub attempts, or do anything but squeeze Eddie's head. In the 10 minutes Eddie was on top he passed guard, had Royler's back, and had at least three serious sub attempts. Yeah, I don't get it. Royler didn't even really earn a position. Eddie pulled him into quarter guard to start the match and that's the best spot Royler was in at any point. Given that the position was where Eddie wanted to start his game, it's hard to see that as winning for Royler. He put some pressure on Eddie for awhile, but never improved his position and then became the demonstration dummy for an Electric Chair demo.
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Yuns posted:As a tangentially related side note, Carlson Jr. visited us at the main Renzo academy a week ago. I missed meeting him but most of the afternoon competition class guys met him. While we're trying to decide if Renzo is cool or not, is the Renzo/Marcelo school rivalry a friendly thing? Do those two get along?
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02-6611-0142-1 posted:While we're trying to decide if Renzo is cool or not, is the Renzo/Marcelo school rivalry a friendly thing? Do those two get along? I wonder how John Danaher and Josh Waitzkin feel about each other.
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Sprecherscrow posted:I wonder how John Danaher and Josh Waitzkin feel about each other. I read Waitzkin's book, but I ain't never talked to him. It's a good book.
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02-6611-0142-1 posted:While we're trying to decide if Renzo is cool or not, is the Renzo/Marcelo school rivalry a friendly thing? Do those two get along? Renzo is incredibly charismatic and funny in person and is great to talk to and hang out with after training. So it's always kind of odd to me when people who've never met him hate him but you're all entitled to your opinions so I have no real interest in changing anyone's mind.
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Sprecherscrow posted:I wonder how John Danaher and Josh Waitzkin feel about each other.
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Yuns posted:I've never heard John mention Josh and obviously Josh doesn't train with us so I'm not sure they have any opinions of one another at all. I didn't really think they did, I just started thinking of them as counterparts a while ago and felt like throwing it out there. You got two guys who are both very interested in improving the teaching methodology of bjj. The only seminar I've attended was at Renzo's and Danaher seemed especially cognizant of the limitations of the seminar as a teaching format and how to make the most of them. I've yet to read the Art of Learning, but I imagine Waitzkin would have a similar awareness. And mginaction.com was his idea I believe.
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So I'm attending the Northwest Submission Challenge in Boise at the end of the month. Is anyone else gonna be there? I'm pretty excited because it's going to be my first competition since I made the switch from Judo to nogi BJJ a few years ago. But I'm also kinda nervous because I don't feel like the guys at my gym appreciate or even fully understand my style (they're all 'hulk smash!' and I'm all 'chess match?'), and they seem to have their hands full prepping some of the other guys already. Have you guys got any good ideas or general advice for me about using these next couple weeks wisely? For reference I'm 5'11" 155 and I'm basically working on developing an effective Marcelo impression
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I was talking to a someone that was competing for the first time not long ago and mentioned that improvising and going for new things during a competition (or even the time leading up to a competition) should not be done. Hone and apply your bread and butter.
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Work out a plan that ties together all your most successful stuff. Don't be too experimental. Your judo will be unexpected so use it to your advantage, do some epic leg trips and some super fast armbars or whatever you're into. If you're having success with your takedowns you could intentionally stand back up a few times to try and bait him into standing up with you again. Keep your gameplan pretty simple though, don't overthink it, don't be afraid to stray from it if you see a good opportunity for something else.
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02-6611-0142-1 posted:If you're having success with your takedowns you could intentionally stand back up a few times to try and bait him into standing up with you again. Pay attention at the rules meeting (or read them or whatever) if you're planning on doing this, most of the tournaments that I've been in have rules that discourage this (e.g. no points on subsequent takedowns if the ref decides you're doing this)
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02-6611-0142-1 posted:Amended List of Cool Gracies, 4/04/14: Kron
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Kekekela posted:Pay attention at the rules meeting (or read them or whatever) if you're planning on doing this, most of the tournaments that I've been in have rules that discourage this (e.g. no points on subsequent takedowns if the ref decides you're doing this) I have also done tournaments where this was abused to no end and no one batted an eye. At the very least if you can act like you're standing up to pass but give them enough room to stand and see if they'll take the bait.
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DAS Super! posted:Kron Yea Kron is cool, listen to his JRE
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Xguard86 posted:I have also done tournaments where this was abused to no end and no one batted an eye. Yeah, I mean even if its supposedly disallowed who the gently caress knows what'll actually be enforced because tournament refs, I'm just saying its something to be aware of.
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DAS Super! posted:Kron He supposedly was really disrespectful and childish towards Braulio backstage at UFC 158.
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First day back to BJJ after two months off and I get a nice little gift of getting my toe sprawled on and reactivating my nice lingering 5 month turf toe. Does anyone here have any success in using wrestling shoes for practice, or is that pointless since they're pretty flexible anyways? I'll of course be taping the toe, and looking into getting a metal plate for my shoes as well. Any experiences?
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Rener might have to be removed from the cool Gracie list and put on the Dorkus Malorkus Gracie list after he name-dropped Helio in his love song to his wife, Eve Torres. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX2PcRGNt1A "LOVE AS TRUE AS JIU-JITSU" daaaaaaaaaaang (not in the good way, either)
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A Gracie wedding seems pretty weird: http://instagram.com/p/mwHqHXhTrD
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origami posted:A Gracie wedding seems pretty weird: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGCZGU-MGgE
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