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Apr 14, 2014 15:41
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caiman posted:I just bought a copy of The Doors (self titled) original 1967 mono release in G+ condition. Ebay. I paid $15.50. Did I get a good deal? I would've sold you mine for a cool $14. I know I'm going to sound like a trashpicker, but that's absolutely something you could have found at a thrift store/flea market/garage sale if you had a little patience. How bad did you need to hear the Doors?
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Apr 14, 2014 16:02
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I picked up the rhino stereo repressing new for less than that, but I guess that's not as cool or whatever.
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Apr 14, 2014 16:08
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Hmm. So are all of these sellers just morons? Or am I completely missing something?
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Apr 14, 2014 16:29
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It's not the sellers who are morons...
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Apr 14, 2014 16:30
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Just because an item is for sale at a high price, doesn't mean it'll sell for that. They're probably hoping someone will bite at that rate. I'm guessing that record probably got pressed in a huge quantity, like all the Beatles records people presume are worth tons because of who the band are and forgetting that popular albums get massive presses. End of the day, do you think $15.50 is a good price to pay for that record? If so, then it's fine. You didn't have to dig through crates and you got one in a condition you're happy with. I pay 'over the odds' for records all the time, because I'll spot something in a shop when I'm travelling and I'll get it on impulse. I don't regret paying the prices, even if I could've gone online and got them a bit cheaper.
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Apr 14, 2014 16:33
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alg posted:It's not the sellers who are morons... Touche. But then again, if people are regularly willing to pay $100+ for something I paid $15 for, then that seems like a good deal to me.
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Apr 14, 2014 16:33
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caiman posted:Touche. But then again, if people are regularly willing to pay $100+ for something I paid $15 for, then that seems like a good deal to me. You'd have to search ebay completed/sold listings and/or Popsike to see what people are actually buying it for.
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Apr 14, 2014 16:38
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Snowy posted:You'd have to search ebay completed/sold listings and/or Popsike to see what people are actually buying it for. I was just thinking the same thing, so I came across this http://www.popsike.com/php/quicksearch.php?pagenum=1&searchtext=EKL+4007&incldescr=&sortord=ddate&thumbs=&currsel= Granted the one I bought is only G+ condition, but people are paying pretty good money for this release.
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Apr 14, 2014 16:42
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I don't know why people are always like "Who gives a gently caress about the cover, man? It's all about the MUSIC." Like, it's possible to want to enjoy something for both its functionality and its aesthetics. If I buy a book, it's to read the contents but that doesn't mean I wouldn't prefer a version with a cover that isn't all ripped up and water-damaged too.
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Apr 14, 2014 16:49
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i dont know how much more clearly we can tell you that the doors record you bought is not worth a significant amount of money
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Apr 14, 2014 16:52
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BigFactory posted:I'll buy some real trash if it's a dollar. This. If it's cheap enough I'll buy some pretty hosed up poo poo just to have a placeholder until I can find a nicer copy.
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Apr 14, 2014 16:53
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caiman posted:I was just thinking the same thing, so I came across this http://www.popsike.com/php/quicksearch.php?pagenum=1&searchtext=EKL+4007&incldescr=&sortord=ddate&thumbs=&currsel= Does it have Morrisson saying gently caress in The End? I should probably listen to mine to see if it's censored or not, but then I'd have to listen to the Doors.
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Apr 14, 2014 16:53
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ya we should take a moment to recognize and understand how bad the doors are
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Apr 14, 2014 16:55
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BigFactory posted:Does it have Morrisson saying gently caress in The End? I should probably listen to mine to see if it's censored or not, but then I'd have to listen to the Doors. Auction didn't specify. I guess it'll be a surprise.
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Apr 14, 2014 16:55
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stay depressed posted:i dont know how much more clearly we can tell you that the doors record you bought is not worth a significant amount of money You can see sold listings where people are paying a lot for it: http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-DOORS-S...=item2589d81f0e http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-DOORS-S...=item43c69b4e6b http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-DOORS-d...=item43bf1457aa So, to some people, it is. That said, I wouldn't pay very much for any G condition record.
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Apr 14, 2014 16:56
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caiman posted:Auction didn't specify. I guess it'll be a surprise. I would have to imagine that an uncensored version would be worth considerably more than a censored one, and that a censored one might go in the $15.50 range. stay depressed posted:ya we should take a moment to recognize and understand how bad the doors are Especially the first record. They had some fun songs later in their career. Peace Frog's a pretty good song. I like LA Woman. Touch Me is a great karaoke song. But that first record is some bullshit. BigFactory fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Apr 14, 2014 |
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Apr 14, 2014 16:59
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stay depressed posted:i dont know how much more clearly we can tell you that the doors record you bought is not worth a significant amount of money I'm replying here not out of defensiveness but out of genuine confusion. You're saying it's not worth anything, but I just linked to a list of completed auctions showing that people have been paying good money. If worth is determined by what people are willing to pay, then I'm either completely missing a major factor here, or your statement is demonstrably wrong.
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Apr 14, 2014 17:00
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caiman posted:G+ condition. Unfortunately in the crazy world of record collecting Good+ does not really mean that good and condition is everything in terms of value. A G+ record will be suitable "play" copy to listen and enjoy, shouldn't have major skips but probably lots of surface noise. Unless it's a record you might never see again or just a cheap copy to add to your collection, I'd avoid paying too much for any G+ record. Generally a G+ copy would hold 10% of the value of a NM copy.
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Apr 14, 2014 17:03
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Blast Fantasto posted:I don't know why people are always like "Who gives a gently caress about the cover, man? It's all about the MUSIC." I buy covers with missing vinyl if they're good enough! Packaging is a huge part of the vinyl experience. It's not only about the warm sound with dust crackle and skips.
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Apr 14, 2014 17:10
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Wait, you guys keep the covers? I get rid of them so it's not a huge hassle when I flip through my pile of loose records.
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Apr 14, 2014 17:18
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caiman posted:I'm replying here not out of defensiveness but out of genuine confusion. You're saying it's not worth anything, but I just linked to a list of completed auctions showing that people have been paying good money. If worth is determined by what people are willing to pay, then I'm either completely missing a major factor here, or your statement is demonstrably wrong. Are you hoping to sell it or something? If you're satisfied with the purchase then who cares? That being said I wouldn't buy any record graded Below a VG because that's unlistenable to me (of course that's just my preference) and for something like 20 dollars you can get a brand new copy of that. Although it's worth noting that all mono versions of the Doors s/t have some kind distortion going on because of some bullshit that happened to the original tapes. So a pristine copy of that from any time is going to have some fuzzy sounds on it.
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Apr 14, 2014 19:30
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CPL593H posted:Are you hoping to sell it or something? If you're satisfied with the purchase then who cares? Oh I really don't care that much, $15 is nothing big and I'm happy with the purchase. My interest in this mostly comes from being a newbie and wanting to understand vinyl value/rarity/prices/etc.
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Apr 14, 2014 19:40
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I always thought a good was just a fair that is still in one piece.
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Apr 14, 2014 19:41
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Yeah, it's not a great system when good = lovely
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Apr 14, 2014 19:50
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Here's the unlistenable Doors records and Flaming Lips reissues I've bought lately:
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Apr 14, 2014 19:51
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Where did you get that Splits single? I've been looking for a copy of their LP for a really long time.
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Apr 14, 2014 21:13
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Beaucoup Cuckoo posted:Where did you get that Splits single? I've been looking for a copy of their LP for a really long time. Airiston Punk-levyt's record stall at this little festival they do. I'm pretty sure they also had a few copies of the LP, but tbf I was drunk.
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Apr 14, 2014 22:19
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People who care about the value/rarity of their records more than the music suck.
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Apr 14, 2014 23:37
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Aw yeah, poo poo's about to get real. And I got my first ever turntable just in time for Record Store Day.
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Apr 14, 2014 23:46
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bowmore posted:People who care about the value/rarity of their records more than the music suck. But what about those of us who pay high prices because we like the music so much? Star Man posted:Aw yeah, poo poo's about to get real. And I got my first ever turntable just in time for Record Store Day. A good decision.
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Apr 15, 2014 00:45
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Sorry these aren't obscure punk or stoner/doom/sludge.
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Apr 15, 2014 00:56
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CPL593H posted:But what about those of us who pay high prices because we like the music so much?
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Apr 15, 2014 00:58
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bowmore posted:You are buying it to enjoy it and not just to sell it later, what's the issue? Nothing I guess.
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Apr 15, 2014 00:59
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bowmore posted:You are buying it to enjoy it and not just to sell it later, what's the issue? I do both.
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Apr 15, 2014 01:27
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I've never sold any of my records unless for whatever reason I ended up with multiple copies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTdO-w3xnpw CPL593H fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Apr 15, 2014 |
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Apr 15, 2014 01:28
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I guess I should have said I buy to enjoy and possibly sell later, I don't just buy to resell. But I'm more likely to buy a record if I know it will sell again easily if I don't need to keep it. I used to be proud that I had every record I ever owned, going back to my childhood, but I got over that. It's just too much when living in a small space, and when one of my records is worth a lot more to other people than it is to me, it's getting sold.
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Apr 15, 2014 01:32
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Speaking of reselling stuff, I would love to get the Type O Negative boxset. But not for $700-$900 used 
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Apr 15, 2014 01:35
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Snowy posted:I guess I should have said I buy to enjoy and possibly sell later, I don't just buy to resell. But I'm more likely to buy a record if I know it will sell again easily if I don't need to keep it.
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Apr 15, 2014 01:39
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bowmore posted:Yeah I have no issue with that. It's just the people who buy records because they think they are rare or can resell them later and don't even play them that annoy me. I also hate the "Well I don't listen to them but I can't sell them to you because they have sentimental value" people.
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