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computer parts posted:Maine is like one of the least urbanized states though. True, but if you compare it to equally rural states like Montana or the Dakotas, or the states that send only one at-large representative to congress, the murder rate still appears to be much lower.
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What's that zipcode in the UP?
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Frostwerks posted:What's that zipcode in the UP? Channing Michigan, though all of the data I'm able to find has it as a place with ~$65k median household income.
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Frostwerks posted:What's that zipcode in the UP? Probably one or two filthy rich people in a town of 50.
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withak posted:Probably one or two filthy rich people in a town of 50. I literally figured "one super wealthy mining or timber family in a town of 5000". I assume those are industries in the UP. Them and pasties.
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computer parts posted:Channing Michigan, though all of the data I'm able to find has it as a place with ~$65k median household income. That's for the actual town of Channing, there are probably a couple of filthy rich people living in big compounds in the forest nearby that really skew the numbers. My hometown was similar, the town itself was lower middle class but there were a half dozen or so ludicrously wealthy people with gigantic mansions tucked away into the forest behind gigantic privacy fences.
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Looks like it's here, a whole lot of nothing and a small town. http://goo.gl/maps/sD0AA
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Peanut President posted:Looks like it's here, a whole lot of nothing and a small town. Whole lot of nothing is right. This is where they should have set True Detective.
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 Here's the nice Mafia homicide map from the latest UN report I talked about earlier.
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Man if those are homicides perpetrated by the nice mafia I don't even wanna know what the mean mafia is up to.
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Suicides in Russia. Per 100000 0-64 year old males. Edit: I suck at uploading images, see below. cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Apr 14, 2014 |
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Apr 14, 2014 18:39
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^^^^: Your link doesn't work, I rehosted the image.
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^^Edit: It worked for me just fine? Fail, where is the Crimea in this Russia map? Just kidding, and WOW. That's frightening. And it is kind of surprising that the least suicides have been in a Caucasus republic.
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Faber posted:^^^^: Your link doesn't work, I rehosted the image. It does not work for you only it seems. 
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kalstrams posted:It does not work for you only it seems. Nah, it's not just them. The image didn't work for me either.
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Robhol posted:Nah, it's not just them. The image didn't work for me either. Them ? Whatever, the problem is hopefully resolved now.
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It doesn't work for me either, and you shouldn't be image leeching anyway dude.
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Very strange. Just yesterday I talked with a Russian classical singer about traditional folk songs in Europe. We came to the conclusion that the further north and east you go, the more likely it is that traditional music is using minor scales, which are usually linked with sad emotions.
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kalstrams posted:It does not work for you only it seems. Not working for me either. I think it might only be working for you.
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Wait is there actually a U.N. Mafia index? I mean it makes sense to be a thing worth studying, but at the same time it gives a pretty hilarious mental image. kalstrams posted:It does not work for you only it seems. It didn't work for me either, at first. It seems like you aren't allowed to hotlink images from that site, but if you open it in a new tab the picture gets put in your cache so you can see it normally on this site.
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Koramei posted:It doesn't work for me either, and you shouldn't be image leeching anyway dude. Okay, I will re-host next stuff I post. Thump! posted:Not working for me either. I think it might only be working for you. Not only me. Torrannor posted:^^Edit: It worked for me just fine? Edit: Ammat The Ankh posted:It didn't work for me either, at first. It seems like you aren't allowed to hotlink images from that site, but if you open it in a new tab the picture gets put in your cache so you can see it normally on this site. Ah, that explains it. cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Apr 14, 2014 |
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Apr 14, 2014 19:04
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Faber posted:^^^^: Your link doesn't work, I rehosted the image. What is going on with the green color intervals in that scale? I call "make the whole map red therefore dangerous" shenanigans e: not that the rates aren't super high, here's NIMH's map of the US for comparison: 
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Apr 14, 2014 19:18
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 Deaths from injuries, poisonings, killings and suicides in rural areas as a percentage of that in urban areas. Tree Goat posted:What is going on with the green color intervals in that scale? It probably is 0 - 0.3 and 0.3 - 1.3 but it is hard to guess. Tree Goat posted:e: not that the rates aren't super high Only up to six times more.
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kalstrams posted:
That's probably it, but it's still weird since: There are two kinds of red in the map but only one red in the legend The size of each interval is uneven, which usually means they are using quartiles (or septiles in this case), but there are not an equal number of regions represented in each category. One of the green intervals is not represented on the map at all. Does the source have the data in tabular form (in Russian is fine)?
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Tree Goat posted:That's probably it, but it's still weird since: Unfortunately source has no tabular data. Women suicide statistics (below this post) there have colour code issues similar to those you have described. Assuming that colours are reference points on 'colour scale' does not really work either as for the colours the data ranges are given, not exact values.  Edit: Well, it has some stats linked there, but those do not seem to be related to the maps in question. cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Apr 14, 2014 |
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I was thinking about the situation in Ukraine, and I got to wondering about expanding borders. Russia annexed Crimea as we all know, and either has already or will officially make it part of Russian territory. I was wondering when the last time this happened was. States these days, and really since WW2, have tended to splinter instead of grow larger. The most recent example I could think of of a state expanding its borders was Israel in '67 (and kinda ongoing with settlements, depending how you look at it). Any more recent examples that I've missed? Here's an ugly map of Israel's expansion: 
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Count Roland posted:I was wondering when the last time this happened was. States these days, and really since WW2, have tended to splinter instead of grow larger. Like all good cartography questions with political components, the answer is "it depends" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world_map_changes#21st_century
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Count Roland posted:I was thinking about the situation in Ukraine, and I got to wondering about expanding borders. Russia annexed Crimea as we all know, and either has already or will officially make it part of Russian territory.
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Peaceful Anarchy posted:Reunified Germany and China taking back Hong Kong are the most obvious ones that come to mind. Don't forget about China taking back Macau.
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Tree Goat posted:Like all good cartography questions with political components, the answer is "it depends" Wow, that is quite the list there. And I'll add North and South Vietnam being unified. edit: Quite the list indeed! So much stuff I didn't know -Yemen was only unified in 1990 -Iraq actually annexed Kuwait after its invasion -Burkina Faso used to be called Upper Volta -Iraq and Saudi Arabia had a neutral zone instead of a formal border until '81 -Central African Republic briefly and hilariously declared itself an Empire. ...and thats only back through the 70s. Extremely interesting, thanks for the link, and bless you wikipedia. Count Roland fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Apr 14, 2014 |
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Peanut President posted:Don't forget about China taking back Macau. And India taking back Goa.
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Count Roland posted:-Iraq and Saudi Arabia had a neutral zone instead of a formal border until '81 I only know about this one thanks to Shadow President.  Count Roland posted:-Central African Republic briefly and hilariously declared itself an Empire. The only "emperor" of the Central African Empire was such a nutcase. Before he proclaimed himself emperor, Jean-Bédel Bokassa converted to Islam for three months in 1976 in order to secure financial aid from Gaddafi. Then he converted back to Catholicism in order to be crowned Emperor. His coronation ceremony cost US$20 million, which was 1/3 of his country's annual budget. A few months lather, elementary school students around the country started protesting because their required school uniforms were too expensive, and Bokassa responded by having them all arrested, and over 100 died from their treatment in prison.
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Count Roland posted:-Iraq and Saudi Arabia had a neutral zone instead of a formal border until '81 Until relatively recently pretty much all of Saudi Arabia's borders were demarcated, as some of them (like the one with Oman) passed through some of the most uninhabitable parts of Earth and no one was particularly concerned with where exactly Saudi ended and the other Arab states began. They have since actually demarcated all of them.
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Pakled posted:I only know about this one thanks to Shadow President. I knew about the neutral zone from an old atlas I had as a kid. It wasn't until fairly recently that I realized it no longer existed.
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Mu Cow posted:I knew about the neutral zone from an old atlas I had as a kid. It wasn't until fairly recently that I realized it no longer existed. We don't have enough areas called 'The Neutral Zone', it keeps me from the opportunity to pronounce that what ever car I'm traveling has now crossed into the neutral zone. I mean neutral zones proliferating would be a sign of horrible international relationships, but a chance to quote Star Trek in day to day life like an utter shitlord would be worth it.
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It's only worth it if you go all the way and rig the car up with red interior lights and the red alert klaxon and have them triggered when you crossed.
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Count Roland posted:I was thinking about the situation in Ukraine, and I got to wondering about expanding borders. Russia annexed Crimea as we all know, and either has already or will officially make it part of Russian territory. Jordan illegally annexed the entire West Bank in 1948.
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Peanut President posted:Looks like it's here, a whole lot of nothing and a small town. If you look a bit North of the town you can see the giant compounds on the lake
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