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Mitt Romney posted:First time I've seen something like this: I can't wait to see the rationalization of this by States' Rights proponents. 
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Wisconsinite refugees are being debriefed at Checkpoint St. Croix, while humanitarian organizations are en route with truckloads of hotdishes.joeburz posted:I can't wait to see the rationalization of this by States' Rights proponents. It's pretty easy: cities are creatures of the state and are entitled to enact only that which the state allows them to enact. It's a knife in the side of local control advocates, but States' Rightsers are pretty comfortable with the state as the unit of control.
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Apr 15, 2014 02:47
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Hypocrisy is a terrible thing. Almost as terrible as the Koch's failed agricultural policy which has lead to the starvation of millions.
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The Warszawa posted:Wisconsinite refugees are being debriefed at Checkpoint St. Croix, while humanitarian organizations are en route with truckloads of hotdishes. But the rationale never seems based on 10th amendment grounds, rather the abstract concept of "closer to the people" or whatever freedom-y phrase is chosen. See: MA or NY residents in the rural areas of a state under predominant Democrat representation, NH conservatives after Democratic party victories, and any other state not currently a conservative stronghold. esto es malo fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Apr 15, 2014 |
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Apr 15, 2014 02:51
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Joementum posted:Except that in Kochisconsin, rather than handing it out, the Central Market Cheese Dispensary would sell the cheese back to the populace in exchange for gold, silver, or scrip. The Central Market Cheese Dispensary already exists in Texas. They do not take gold.
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Apr 15, 2014 03:00
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shrike82 posted:I like to think that our posts will be referenced in academic texts 50 years from now with attributions to names like SedanChair and Captain_Maclaine. You think this is a joke but it is what will happen. A whole generation will be characterized by their AIM screennames, forum posts, and fan-fictions.
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Apr 15, 2014 03:29
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HootTheOwl posted:You think this is a joke but it is what will happen. Again, literally the Onion in real life?
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Apr 15, 2014 03:31
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Expect a series of "no, I'm Hoot_the_Owl, HootOwl8 is a completely different person" scandals.
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Apr 15, 2014 03:40
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The Warszawa posted:
The funny thing about this is that you can only buy "stock" from the state of WI whenever they feel like selling it. You cannot sell it, and it is meaningless. People literally pay 200$ for a piece of paper with their name on it.
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Apr 15, 2014 03:41
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joeburz posted:I can't wait to see the rationalization of this by States' Rights proponents. It's never satisfying. Most rank and file conservatives that vote based on identity stuff really only care about the ends. They do not care about the means. I've had people in my family complain up and down about how evil George Soros is. Then I bring up the Koch brothers, and then they just reply "The Koch brothers are good, though, they should be allowed to do it. George Soros is bad. It's bad when he does it." They don't care about consistency. They care about tearing down the mythical liberal socialist boogeyman other that the party tells them to be afraid of.
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Apr 15, 2014 03:42
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It's like the Drake equation where the window of the ET race sending the signals into space is replaced by teens posting their poetry on a Xanga.
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Apr 15, 2014 03:44
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joeburz posted:I can't wait to see the rationalization of this by States' Rights proponents. Oklahoma doesn't have home rule but is a Dillon state, so sucks for municipalities.
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Apr 15, 2014 03:55
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comes along bort posted:Lewis Black gave a talk at the National Press Club today, dispelling the idea that he'd lost his edge in his old age. Things we learn: he's a socialist, he used to work for the Appalachian Regional Commission, and reliance on entrepreneurship to fix social ills is a crock of poo poo. I like the Chapel Hill slam starting at about 28:20.
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Apr 15, 2014 03:55
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paragon1 posted:Hypocrisy is a terrible thing. What do you mean? Can you provide an article or a link?
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Apr 15, 2014 04:00
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HootTheOwl posted:You think this is a joke but it is what will happen. It's just like Shadowrun!
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Apr 15, 2014 04:01
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Elephant Ambush posted:It's just like Shadowrun! Don't call me pal, chummer.
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comes along bort posted:Lewis Black gave a talk at the National Press Club today, dispelling the idea that he'd lost his edge in his old age. Things we learn: he's a socialist, he used to work for the Appalachian Regional Commission, and reliance on entrepreneurship to fix social ills is a crock of poo poo. Everyone really should watch this. It's long but well worth it and I hope it gets passed around.
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Apr 15, 2014 04:06
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paragon1 posted:Travel to and from Wisconsin became extremely limited due to constant cries to "secure the border" on both sides. Due to extremely limited funding, visas to the U.S. became extremely limited, prompting one state senator to famously quip: "In Wisconsin, you are free to do anything except leave." #milwaukeedeathrally
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Apr 15, 2014 04:21
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Defenestration posted:#milwaukeedeathrally Three weeks after Bud Selig was smuggled across the border to negotiate a secret deal for detente, the Supreme Directorate of Wisconsin's Minister of Sport, Ryan Braun, has announced that no deal was reached. Braun has blamed State Department notary public Dino Laurenzi for mishandling key agreement drafts. In response, Selig has suspended Alex Rodriguez for 214 additional games.
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Apr 15, 2014 04:28
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Joementum posted:Except that in Kochisconsin, rather than handing it out, the Central Market Cheese Dispensary would sell the cheese back to the populace in exchange for gold, silver, or scrip. Hey why narrow your options; I'm sure they'll accept labor pledges in exchange for cheese as well.
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Apr 15, 2014 04:37
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Mitt Romney posted:First time I've seen something like this: We did that poo poo years ago here in Wisconsin! Well, the sick day part at least.
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Apr 15, 2014 04:37
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Defenestration posted:#milwaukeedeathrally "After the Beer for Food program turned into a self-perpetuating cycle of ever greater beer production that caused a famine, they turned on each other with all they had left: cheese forks"
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Apr 15, 2014 05:23
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Fried Chicken posted:In fairness, the libertarians was more a case of them not thinking it through to the consequences, but I repeat myself. Fixed that for you.
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Apr 15, 2014 05:26
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Quabzor posted:The funny thing about this is that you can only buy "stock" from the state of WI whenever they feel like selling it. You cannot sell it, and it is meaningless. People literally pay 200$ for a piece of paper with their name on it. $200 is pretty drat cheap for a unique piece of sports memorabilia. People spend far more money on dumber and more destructive things. Like rigging elections.
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Apr 15, 2014 06:11
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:What do you mean? Can you provide an article or a link? Part of a running joke chief. It'd be pretty hard for the Koch's to have an ag policy seeing as how they aren't lawmakers or government officials of any kind.
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Apr 15, 2014 07:25
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paragon1 posted:Part of a running joke chief. It'd be pretty hard for the Koch's to have an ag policy seeing as how they aren't lawmakers or government officials of any kind. (his views in 1980 were effectively "repeal/privatize literally everything")
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Apr 15, 2014 07:34
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There's (probably) no need for a goon project. If you are technically skilled and want to pitch in your services, you should investigate pro bono volunteering or skill-based volunteering in your region. Your local volunteer center may be able to steer you in the right direction as well: the hands-on network is one well-established national network of volunteer centers to help you get started. It's the volunteer industry, so don't expect a ticket system. Expect to be an active participant in personal discussions.
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Apr 15, 2014 13:41
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Forever_Peace posted:There's (probably) no need for a goon project. I think [Obama is] Awful PAC would be a great goon d'etat.
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Apr 15, 2014 14:47
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redscare posted:$200 is pretty drat cheap for a unique piece of sports memorabilia. People spend far more money on dumber and more destructive things. Like rigging elections. Also, I'm fairly certain that it is, in fact, an ownership share of the team. As a non-profit, all money gets funneled back into the team, but you vote for the Packers' board of directors. Maybe I'm a big ol' softie but I think it's kinda neat that a sports team can still be fan and community owned in the United States. 
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Forever_Peace posted:There's (probably) no need for a goon project. Personally, I've found it difficult to volunteer as a working professional. Everyone wants volunteers at, like, 10am on Tuesdays.
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Apr 15, 2014 15:16
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HootTheOwl posted:Says you. No, never again. Please take this somewhere else. The last GOONPAC discussion was a massive derail that lasted for months.
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Apr 15, 2014 15:17
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PerniciousKnid posted:Personally, I've found it difficult to volunteer as a working professional. Everyone wants volunteers at, like, 10am on Tuesdays. Also there are rarely any opportunities in my area.
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Apr 15, 2014 16:06
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There should be a LF-lite that lasts til the end of 2014 election season. Too much steam to blow off, not enough news content to keep things moving. Call it, "Winter is Coming".
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Apr 15, 2014 16:10
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Forever_Peace posted:There's (probably) no need for a goon project. Well, the goon project idea started as a way to create some tech tools for campaigners that persist across campaigns. The best ones currently cost a lot of money and any free tools developed by campaigns are usually lost after the campaign ends. Also, we're talking about developing tools that help campaigns in areas without an IT infrastructure you could even volunteer for; we're talking about developing a tool that's accessible via internet from any desktop or laptop or smart phone. The most I can usually find in NE Ohio as far as volunteer opportunities is sorting food at Second Harvest - which is fine, and I've done it - but no one is looking for anyone with an IT skillset for volunteering if you don't live in a decently sized city.
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Apr 15, 2014 16:11
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Teddybear posted:Also, I'm fairly certain that it is, in fact, an ownership share of the team. As a non-profit, all money gets funneled back into the team, but you vote for the Packers' board of directors. Maybe I'm a big ol' softie but I think it's kinda neat that a sports team can still be fan and community owned in the United States. It doesn't offer dividends or equity and there are hard caps in place to prevent purchasing enough shares to have controlling interest in the team with one of the most important being that the stock can not be re-sold or transferred. Like you said it lets you attend meetings and vote on various plebiscites that the Green Bay Packers corporation puts forth. Mostly though the stock is used to raise money to overhaul the stadium.
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Mike Huckabee, the true forward-thinker he is, has perfected a Godwin for a new generation.quote:“Freedom of speech in this country, that for which the men grabbed their muskets off the mantel, did never mean that we’re to have fewer voices, but more voices,” Huckabee said. “My gosh, I’m beginning to think that there’s more freedom in North Korea sometimes than there is in the United States,” he continued. “When I go to the airport, I have to get in the surrender position while people put hands all over me,” Huckabee lamented. He did not mention that the Transportation Security Administration came into being under a Republican president. Airport security = LITERALLY KIM JONG-UN
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Apr 15, 2014 16:50
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Blindeye posted:There's been a lot of this going on, smaller government! Except if it's smaller than a state government. gently caress your local rights. These kind of bills. Nothing is a more true bellweather of Republican "ideals" than state-level laws. In Texas it happens every two years. Every single legislative session there are at least a few bills floated to strip away the authority of the cities in response to the threat (real or imagined) of excessively progressive legislation coming out of one of Austin, San Antonio, or El Paso. This past session they wanted to strip the cities of the ability to ban single use plastic bags vis The Shopping Bag Freedom Act and also prohibit cities from protecting trees by placing any limitation on developers cutting them down. They also wanted to "strip health care dollars from school districts and other jurisdictions extending domestic partner benefits". Swan Oat posted:The Central Market Cheese Dispensary already exists in Texas. They do not take gold. They sell euro-sourced socialism cheese there.
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Apr 15, 2014 16:58
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Yeah, I agree that now, a rich white man in America experiences more oppression than a person in North Korea because he is slightly inconvenienced before he goes rocketing through the stratosphere in a magic flying tube where he is waited on hand and foot by women and upon arrival is whisked away to his luxury hotel in the back of a stretch limousine. Lol at the idea that Mike loving whitebread Huckabee has ever been frisked at an airport.
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quote:“When I go to the airport, I have to get in the surrender position while people put hands all over me,” Huckabee lamented. Wont somebody think of the poor TSA agent?
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zoux posted:Lol at the idea that Mike loving whitebread Huckabee has ever been frisked at an airport. I wish someone had asked him which president was responsible for that.
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