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Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

Chas McGill posted:

I don't know. I couldn't really relate to either character at the start, but I preferred the setting and style of NHK. It isn't even that Okabe is especially embarrassing - it's the whole thing, it just rubs me wrong. The girl who works in the maid cafe. The 2channers. The character designs. I'm not in its demographic.
They're nerds and anime fans, basically. It's a story that takes place in Akihabara, it's not like that culture is an anime invention or fabrication.

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Chas McGill
Oct 29, 2010

loves Fat Philippe

Nate RFB posted:

They're nerds and anime fans, basically. It's a story that takes place in Akihabara, it's not like that culture is an anime invention or fabrication.
Yeah, I'm not saying that S;G is contrived to that extent. I know it's a reflection of that culture and it isn't something I'm particularly intrigued by.

On a more positive note, I'd like to recommend Kakukaku Shikajika to anyone who hasn't seen it in the Shoujo thread. It's a manga-memoir by Akiko Higashimura (Princess Jellyfish) about her young adulthood with a focus on drawing and painting. Much of the early chapters are about her experiences learning from a strict art teacher in a tiny studio, with recent chapters focusing on her time at uni. The manga is basically a hindsight aided dissection of youthful witlessness. I try not to remember my own late teens and early twenties, but Kakukaku Shikajika captures the arrogant naivete of that time of our lives so well that it's tough to read sometimes. Not because anything particularly shocking or bad happens, but because I made similar mistakes, had the same boneheaded misconceptions about the world, myself, everything. I groan a lot when I'm reading it.

The art is great, of course, and it's interesting to read Higashimura, who is now pretty successful, reminiscing about a time when she could easily have completely thrown in the towel and never amounted to much.

ViggyNash
Oct 9, 2012

Chas McGill posted:

Yeah, I'm not saying that S;G is contrived to that extent. I know it's a reflection of that culture and it isn't something I'm particularly intrigued by.

I think you have the impression that the entire show is based on Akihabara being what it is. In fact, it's the opposite, and the show manipulates the setting in a very interesting way. The show doesn't hinge on being set in Akihabara, and even Faris, who feels the most representative of that culture, has a back story and characterization that are rather divorced from it (yes, she is an important character, and so is pretty much the entire cast). If it's the nature of Akihabara that's putting you off I really suggest you give it another shot.

e: All this Steins;Gate talk is making me want to watch it again.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

It's perfectly ok for people to not like stuff. :shrug:

I will second the idea that more people should read Kakukaku Shikajika though.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat
It's kinda embarrassing how inconsequentially awesome Hataraku Maou-sama is. It's such a simple conceit - the most evil and mighty Dark Lord from another dimension escapes to, and gets stuck in, modern day Japan and he works at a fast food place in the hope that one day he can be promoted up the corporate ladder to take over the country...somehow.

It's a cute show, and is kinda funny due to the dichotomy of the situation and characters. All in all a pretty solid comedy option to watch.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

I didn't like Maou-sama. Felt like the whole show's conceit was expecting you the audience to remember he's satan and that's why you should be laughing at this dude getting serious about McNuggets.

Didn't help the case that it aired in the year of amazing SoLs.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

Namtab posted:

I didn't like Maou-sama. Felt like the whole show's conceit was expecting you the audience to remember he's satan and that's why you should be laughing at this dude getting serious about McNuggets.

Didn't help the case that it aired in the year of amazing SoLs.

I don't know what an SoL is.

And I think that conceit you mention is no longer there by episode 3 or so. Although I've only just finished up with ep 4. So maybe it goes back to it later, I don't know.

Although I do think that if you only have one show to watch about a demon or Hell, it should be Hoozuki no Reitetsu.

Drifter fucked around with this message at 00:57 on Apr 16, 2014

unpronounceable
Apr 4, 2010

You mean we still have another game to go through?!
Fallen Rib

Drifter posted:

I don't know what an SoL is.

Slice of Life. Off the top of my head, GJ-bu, Love Lab, Silver Spoon S1, Servant X Service, and Non Non Biyori were some really good ones that aired last year.

DamnGlitch
Sep 2, 2004

Silver Spoon S2 was great, though more comedy / drama than slice of life.

Did people not like Silver Spoon S2?

Outer Science
Dec 21, 2008

Daisangen
"Slice of life" also a fairly controversial term with some people in that its meaning can be pretty broad, which hurts its ability to be a useful descriptor. For example, the above-mentioned GJ-bu and Silver Spoon are really different from each other.

Use of the term "slice of life" in anime generally refers to a show largely boxed in the framework of the characters experiencing a normal, human life of school or work (as opposed to a fantastical adventure, or war, or something)--but there's a lot of room to work with there, and additional elements may be present that means calling something "slice of life" doesn't really tell you whether it's a comedy, drama, or something else entirely. But just describing the framework can be useful, in some sense.

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

DamnGlitch posted:

Silver Spoon S2 was great, though more comedy / drama than slice of life.

Did people not like Silver Spoon S2?

It did some weird things cutting up the main arc towards the end, but IMO it didn't really make it worse. Some people in the Silver Spoon anime thread thought it was a bit inferior to S1 though, and it didn't have the same director. Your mileage may vary; I thought it was excellent regardless.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat
Both seasons of silver spoon were great. S2 was just a lot more serious with its plot.

One of my favorite slice of lifes ever is Nichijou.

DrPaper
Aug 29, 2011

Drifter posted:

It's kinda embarrassing how inconsequentially awesome Hataraku Maou-sama is. It's such a simple conceit - the most evil and mighty Dark Lord from another dimension escapes to, and gets stuck in, modern day Japan and he works at a fast food place in the hope that one day he can be promoted up the corporate ladder to take over the country...somehow.

It's a cute show, and is kinda funny due to the dichotomy of the situation and characters. All in all a pretty solid comedy option to watch.

Yeah, Devil is a Part-timer is a really fun watch. Season 2 when WhiteFox?

Allarion
May 16, 2009

がんばルビ!
Devil is Part-Time is probably one of the handful of light novels I wouldn't mind reading, but because the universe is cruel no one's really been working on translating it. Hopefully the anime did well enough to build interest in another season.

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Allarion posted:

Devil is Part-Time is probably one of the handful of light novels I wouldn't mind reading, but because the universe is cruel no one's really been working on translating it. Hopefully the anime did well enough to build interest in another season.

Light novel animes tend to air to promote new releases, and so depend more on there being further novels to release rather than how successful the show itself was.

It's part of the reason why there hasn't been any more Haruhi beyond Disappearance.

Allarion
May 16, 2009

がんばルビ!

TheKingofSprings posted:

Light novel animes tend to air to promote new releases, and so depend more on there being further novels to release rather than how successful the show itself was.

It's part of the reason why there hasn't been any more Haruhi beyond Disappearance.

Yeah I'm aware. Devil is a part-time has 8 more volumes available though, since the first season only covered volumes 1 and 2, so it has enough material for another season (when the anime aired, there were 7 volumes out at the time). Course, it's problematic if those 8 volumes have some long overreaching arc which causes issues in having a coherent story, but at the moment it seems that Devil is a part-timer has a lot of material to draw from hence why I assumed a second season was dependent on the first season's success, whether it be in sales of blurays or the light novel.

EDIT: Haruhi does have approximately 5.5 more volumes's worth of stories to tell, but whether that's enough material to cover another season is questionable. Course Haruhi is the series where they decided to take one chapter and split it into 8 episodes of the same thing, so they could probably do it if they were inclined to adapt the remaining volumes. Seasons 1 and 2 basically cover volumes 1-6 with the movie being volume 4. I haven't read those last few volumes yet, but from what I hear it basically ends like season 1 and the movie does, in that the story's over for now, but there's still stuff that can be delved into should the author ever want to return to it.

Allarion fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Apr 16, 2014

DrPaper
Aug 29, 2011

Allarion posted:

Yeah I'm aware. Devil is a part-time has 8 more volumes available though, since the first season only covered volumes 1 and 2, so it has enough material for another season (when the anime aired, there were 7 volumes out at the time). Course, it's problematic if those 8 volumes have some long overreaching arc which causes issues in having a coherent story, but at the moment it seems that Devil is a part-timer has a lot of material to draw from hence why I assumed a second season was dependent on the first season's success, whether it be in sales of blurays or the light novel.

And don't forget sexy figures and nendoroids.

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

DrPaper posted:

And don't forget sexy figures and nendoroids.

Also, embarassing t-shirts.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat
So I've started watching Ghost Hunt and it's a pretty enjoyable show. I like it. It's not AMAZEBALLS or anything, but solid good ghosty/scary story fun. It presents itself really well - like, it's directed well, good camera work, et cetera. It's about this company who investigates/resolves hauntings - people call them up and they try to figure poo poo out.

Its pacing is kinda like a monster of the week, except it's spread out over three or four episodes at a time, which gives it a chance for each story to be fleshed out more. I like that. It keeps things from dragging, too. Some of the situations they get into are pretty cool. It's ghost stories more like The Conjuring/Insidious rather than Leprechaun3: In Space or ghosty goreporn stuff. At least so far.

I'm not attached to the characters like in some other shows, but they all lend themselves really well to the overall show.

Drifter fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Apr 17, 2014

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


What's people's opinion of Redline? It looks at least vaguely interesting.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

icantfindaname posted:

What's people's opinion of Redline? It looks at least vaguely interesting.

I thought it was pure style over substance. I loved the look of it, but never managed to to watch the whole thing in one sitting. Some of the characters felt like a parody of classic archetypes that I just didn't find amusing or interesting. It had good energy though and was better than Speed Racer the movie.

I found the story of it boring, but man, it was good looking. I'd say give it a whirl, it's worth watching, but don't expect a great deal. Of course, it's a racing movie, so it shouldn't really be overly criticized for that lack.

It's great for what it is, it just didn't quite hit the spots for me.

Redcrimson
Mar 3, 2008

Second-stage Midboss Syndrome

icantfindaname posted:

What's people's opinion of Redline? It looks at least vaguely interesting.

It's like cocaine for your eyes. Don't expect an epic sweeping storyline, though. Redline is a movie succeeds extremely well at being exactly what it wants to be, it's just that what it wants to be is a very simple sci-fi action movie.

The Black Stones
May 7, 2007

I POSTED WHAT NOW!?

icantfindaname posted:

What's people's opinion of Redline? It looks at least vaguely interesting.

REDLINE is a loving amazing movie and I highly recommend watching it. I just watched it for the 6th time now with a friend and he asked me to order the Blu-Ray for him.

Drifter posted:

I thought it was pure style over substance. I loved the look of it, but never managed to to watch the whole thing in one sitting. Some of the characters felt like a parody of classic archetypes that I just didn't find amusing or interesting. It had good energy though and was better than Speed Racer the movie.

I found the story of it boring, but man, it was good looking. I'd say give it a whirl, it's worth watching, but don't expect a great deal. Of course, it's a racing movie, so it shouldn't really be overly criticized for that lack.

It's great for what it is, it just didn't quite hit the spots for me.

Redline actually has some really great thought put into it that gives it a fair amount of substance for some fun analysis. It's message isn't anything deep mind you, but I think what the movie did puts it above a lot of average anime that pretend to be deep but just info dump all the time to pretend they're deep. I've been meaning to do a loving huge effort post on Redline, maybe I'll get around to it during the Summer now that I have a break in school.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

icantfindaname posted:

What's people's opinion of Redline? It looks at least vaguely interesting.

Just to add to everyone else's posts, you should get the Blu-Ray version if you can. It's a gorgeous movie, and it's one of the few films where you're doing a disservice to your eyes if you see it in anything less than full HD :allears:.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.
If you care about animation as a medium at all you should watch Redline.

Chas McGill
Oct 29, 2010

loves Fat Philippe
Redline is really cool. It's basically Rock'n'Roll racing, the anime. It won't make you cry or change your life, but it's fun and gorgeous.

UP AND ADAM
Jan 24, 2007

by Pragmatica
For what it lacks in plot, it makes up for with cool visual storytelling through its rich atmosphere

pray for my aunt
Feb 13, 2012

14980c8b8a96fd9e279796a61cf82c9c
There is an official upload of Redline on youtube in 1080p so just go fuckin watch it it's amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MPe7E1YrY4

Brasseye
Feb 13, 2009
Redline is anime Wacky Races with some of the best animation I've ever seen. Very entertaining.

ViggyNash
Oct 9, 2012

icantfindaname posted:

What's people's opinion of Redline? It looks at least vaguely interesting.

It loving owns and everyone on the planet should watch it at least once.

It took Madhouse something like 7 years to animate this right? It shows.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

ViggyNash posted:

It took Madhouse something like 7 years to animate this right? It shows.

Off and on though, right?

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"
I finally followed the general advice of watching Steins;Gate, and I've now watched the first half of the series. God drat. :stonklol:. I can see what people were saying about it being over-anime, but I think it worked for the show in the same way it did for Welcome to the NHK.

Brasseye posted:

Redline is anime Wacky Races with some of the best animation I've ever seen. Very entertaining.

I thought the same of it. Though something I quite liked was the lack of a cheating "Dick Dastardly" character. Every single one of them are just in it for the sheer fact they love racing :allears:.

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Mercrom
Jul 17, 2009
I watched the first two episodes of Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex and I found them really uninteresting. I've heard it's a really intelligent show though, so are there episodes I could skip to that deal with something other than body swapping and other transhumanist fantasies?

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Mercrom posted:

I watched the first two episodes of Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex and I found them really uninteresting. I've heard it's a really intelligent show though, so are there episodes I could skip to that deal with something other than body swapping and other transhumanist fantasies?

It's a super-intelligent show about body swapping and other transhumanist fantasies. The first two episodes are absolutely typical and if they didn't appeal then I don't think the main plot about The Laughing Man and the "Stand Alone Complex" will either. Season 2's thread, the story between Kusanagi and Kuze, might appeal more- it's more human- but to be honest the show leans as heavily on its procedural episodes as its arc ones, and if you're not enjoying them I doubt you're going to enjoy any of it.

EDIT: poo poo, now I want to rewatch it. :v:

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

Mercrom posted:

I watched the first two episodes of Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex and I found them really uninteresting. I've heard it's a really intelligent show though, so are there episodes I could skip to that deal with something other than body swapping and other transhumanist fantasies?

Ghost in the Shell is a run of the mill near-future cop drama with some Philosophy 101 rumination tacked on. Goons praise it out of all proportion for some reason. If you don't enjoy it for the Tachikomas and the action, I wouldn't bother.

RabidWeasel
Aug 4, 2007

Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!
If someone said to you "I found this great anime with a sexy cyborg spy lady and fighting robots!" you'd assume it was 90% action scenes and rear end shots, I think the reason GITS:SAC gets so much praise is because it spends most of its time on character and world building (which makes the action scenes more fun because you actually care about the characters). YMMV, obviously, but I personally think it's amazing though I wouldn't exactly call it "really intelligent" except when compared to other anime.

I think the movies mostly suck complete rear end if that opinion is worth anything :shobon:

Mercrom
Jul 17, 2009
Oh well. I guess I'll stick with Psycho-Pass for now. I just really prefer it when the fantastical stuff acts as a substitute for something that already exists.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

Mercrom posted:

Oh well. I guess I'll stick with Psycho-Pass for now. I just really prefer it when the fantastical stuff acts as a substitute for something that already exists.

What do you mean about the fantastical stuff acting as a substitute? As opposed to what?

Darker than Black is pretty great, and I liked the characters and world. It's NOT cyber punk (it plays with a few of its themes though) or anything, but it's an interesting sci-fantasy themed place. It's kinda dark. There's a talking cat, but he's kind of a bastard.

And maybe Ergo Proxy could be up your alley? It's also got robots living alongside humans and class disparity and racism blah blah. I'm three episodes in and enjoy it so far. Maybe try this one before checking out Darker than Black.

? You've probably seen them both, though. I don't know. You could always watch the area 88 OVAs and Eve no Jikan or something.

Mercrom
Jul 17, 2009

Drifter posted:

What do you mean about the fantastical stuff acting as a substitute? As opposed to what?
I think the fantastical should be an exaggerated version of something that exists, to provoke thought about real issues.

I only watched a bit of Psycho-Pass but it seems pretty good in that regard. Any society is built on conformity of values and morals, and laws demand it. Social engineering and psychology has just evolved to something far more advanced and reliant on technology in that show, but its basis is the same. Nothing in the real world is remotely equivalent to concepts like brains in jars though.

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DamnGlitch
Sep 2, 2004

You are not a very "outside the box" thinker huh

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