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I received a really weird voicemail from my local lodge this morning. It sounded like goats bleating and some really weird satanic chanting that when I played backwards said to give them a call for information about what time I need to be at the lodge Monday for my three degrees meeting. Looks like I made it in! E: "illuminati" by fat boy slim suddenly started playing on Pandora immediately after I hit reply 
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Angry Birds Suicide posted:I received a really weird voicemail from my local lodge this morning. It sounded like goats bleating and some really weird satanic chanting that when I played backwards said to give them a call for information about what time I need to be at the lodge Monday for my three degrees meeting. So you're joining up and haven't received your degrees yet? Good luck if that's the case! (if I'm misreading this just ignore this post)
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Apr 12, 2014 03:36
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SylvainMustach posted:So you're joining up and haven't received your degrees yet? Good luck if that's the case! (if I'm misreading this just ignore this post) I guess my petition was accepted and voted on Thursday. I am to appear at the lodge Monday at 6 to "brief on what's going to happen Tuesday". What happens tuesday?
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Apr 12, 2014 10:57
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They want to make sure the goat has your scent so it's more comfortable around you
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Apr 12, 2014 17:42
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Recent legislation requires us to measure you for protective purposes. You'll know why when the time comes.
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Apr 12, 2014 17:49
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I am way more anxious/anticipating this than I thought I would be.
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Apr 13, 2014 18:20
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Angry Birds Suicide posted:I am way more anxious/anticipating this than I thought I would be. My advice to you is don't try to remember everything that's going on during your initiation, just pay attention to how it feels. You'll have to learn about what you went through but you'll only go through the rituals once
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Apr 13, 2014 19:19
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Isn't preliminary anxiety a big part of initiation ceremonies? You're supposed to be entering a nextsstage in life, which means the old stage will be apprehensive. And a pushy Are there creeds the masons outright ban? Shouldn't Thelema and Pentecostal practitioners be shot on sight?
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Apr 13, 2014 23:04
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Colton posted:My advice to you is don't try to remember everything that's going on during your initiation, just pay attention to how it feels. You'll have to learn about what you went through but you'll only go through the rituals once Seriously. I know we're messing with you and all, but just try to enjoy it and pay attention. Like Colton said, you'll be there for plenty of rituals, but you only get to go through them once. Just pay attention and enjoy yourself. Think of it this way: there will be a lot of brethren in that lodge building, and that night, they're all there for you. Respect that, and have fun.
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Apr 13, 2014 23:38
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Sithsaber posted:Are there creeds the masons outright ban? Shouldn't Thelema and Pentecostal practitioners be shot on sight? In practice you can certainly can find Thelemic or Pentacostal Masons. In terms of Thelema it is worth noting that Crowley himself had went through the degrees in Mexico and considered himself a Mason (he didn't discover the lodge was irregular until presenting himself at a regular lodge). Lon Milo DuQuette is a very well known regular Mason and one of the most authoritative Thelemites currently living. On the other hand (as I've earlier stated in this thread) I personally don't find membership particularly in the OTO compatible with Masonry, and I would personally would most likely black cube someone I knew to be a member.
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Apr 14, 2014 01:08
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I thought Pentecostals would excluded because or their charismatic and sola scriptura tendencies, and that thelema wouldn't work because of its dark tendencies. A lot of the symbolism that the masses think is evil freemasonary is actually thelema. Do free masons even care that the herd thinks they're evil? Distrust of the intelligentsia is one thing, know nothing remnants of the conflict between conservative elements and enlightened fraternities of the bourgeoisie is another.
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Apr 14, 2014 04:32
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Sithsaber posted:I thought Pentecostals would excluded because or their charismatic and sola scriptura tendencies, and that thelema wouldn't work because of its dark tendencies. Thelema was discussed recently, and evidently you're unclear on the whole egalitarianism thing, we really don't exclude on any religious grounds, Thelema being an exception for some brethren because of its specific tenets. quote:A lot of the symbolism that the masses think is evil freemasonary is actually thelema. Freemasonry predates Thelema by several hundred years even conservatively, and OTO's first three degrees were originally literally the Masonic degrees until Crowley changed them after UGLE asked him nicely. Incidentally, as mentioned, Crowley was a Mason, though he was irregular. My understanding is that he was active in Lodges in India before he found out he was irregular, which he didn't discover until returning to England and trying to get into UGLE. quote:Do free masons even care that the herd thinks they're evil? Distrust of the intelligentsia is one thing, know nothing remnants of the conflict between conservative elements and enlightened fraternities of the bourgeoisie is another. 
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Apr 14, 2014 05:20
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You're presupposing a point of view that doesn't apply to the vast majority of Freemasons.
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Apr 14, 2014 18:44
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A view also held by most non-brothers who aren't raging assholes.
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Apr 14, 2014 18:53
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Sithsaber I just wanted to chime in that you seem like you're trying way, way too hard. It's a fraternal organization with some Enlightenment Era-ish philosophy and its own mythology attached. We don't sit around twirling our mustaches. Well, maybe some do, but not evilly.
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Apr 14, 2014 19:16
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Pentecostals tend to have a enthused attitude toward the holy spirit, and generally view religion as something experienced rather than learned. They also tend to emphasize a return to the apostolic church, and the "just Jesus" ideals that entails. This can get markedly anti intellectual and literalist in the working class/ immigrant communities they cater to. Free masonry was also at times "reactionary" during the cold war, especially in places like Italy. I'm sure they didn't eat the poor, but a history of supporting the redistribution of wealth seems unlikely. Half of the reason why the REC hated you was because of your success rallying the bourgeoisie during the age of nationalism. (And the great and holy American revolution) Ps. I was talking about the whore of Babylon. WAIT, YOU WORSHIP THE WHORE?!!! : 
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Apr 14, 2014 20:23
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I can't tell if you're a ratfuck insane conspiracy theorist or just someone who thinks they know far more than they do.
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Apr 14, 2014 21:11
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:I can't tell if you're a ratfuck insane conspiracy theorist or just someone who thinks they know far more than they do. Must they be exclusive?
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Apr 14, 2014 21:15
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Actually on second thought the former pretty much by definition includes the latter.
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Apr 14, 2014 21:28
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Some people can't sense sarcasm. (The whore of Babylon thelema bit) Back on point, are you denying the sociopolitical influences and historical draw of free masonry? I'd think that's settled social theory/ straight up history by now. Ps. Hail George Washington, Lord of the cherry tree.
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Apr 14, 2014 22:00
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Sithsaber posted:Some people can't sense sarcasm. (The whore of Babylon thelema bit) The point is that any extant sociopolitical component of Freemasonry is at best secondary to its modern function, serving only as an example of its long and storied past. It serves no bearing whatsoever on the decisions of initiation, and should not. Any brother who is interested in it would be encouraged to study it and even write about it, but we don't go around thinking about class structure and political philosophies when some guy petitions the lodge. Thelemic practice might come up (if known) because you could argue its religious components are incompatible with Masonic principles. If you are interested in joining and these are concerns of yours, I'd encourage you to discuss them with your investigation committee. If you're just trolling this thread, then that's cool too, I guess.
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Apr 14, 2014 22:08
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I'm young and have none to vouch for me. Ps. I get that, but have always hoped there is more to this than a mystic moose lodge.
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Sithsaber posted:Ps. I get that, but have always hoped there is more to this than a mystic moose lodge. Then straight up ask us instead of getting all "weird-woo-look at me I watched a history channel special on aliens" and we'll tell you that it's pretty much a barely-mystic moose lodge.
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Sithsaber posted:I'm young and have none to vouch for me. There's more to the philosophy that you might want to look into if you join, but there's no scheming to be done. If you have no one to vouch for you, that's fine! That's why we have investigation committees. You go and petition your local lodge, and they'll have some dudes sit down and talk to you. It's easy!
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Apr 14, 2014 22:57
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:Then straight up ask us instead of getting all "weird-woo-look at me I watched a history channel special on aliens" and we'll tell you that it's pretty much a barely-mystic moose lodge. Ta hell are you talking about? Where havI done this?
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Sithsaber posted:Ta hell are you talking about? Where havI done this? Every post you've made in this thread has been bordering on:
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Lovable Luciferian posted:Every post you've made in this thread has been bordering on: How so? EverythinI've posted is either based in history or has been satirical. Ps. I meant the thelema symbols like their actual logo (icon) and the great whore bits. That poo poo ain't free masonry....right? Sithsaber fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Apr 16, 2014 |
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Apr 15, 2014 21:47
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I'm now an earned apprentice.
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Angry Birds Suicide posted:I'm now an earned apprentice. I'm pretty sure you're an Entered Apprentice, and congratulations!
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Apr 16, 2014 03:42
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Snowy posted:I'm pretty sure you're an Entered Apprentice, and congratulations! Cut me some slack man that took almost 4 hours and I'm exhausted okay Jesus I never knew goats could run that fast
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Apr 16, 2014 03:45
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Sithsaber posted:How so? EverythinI've posted is either based in history or has been satirical. 99% of us in this thread aren't familiar with 'the thelema symbols' because we aren't followers of Thelema or members of the OTO. We are freemasons, and not all of us are even esoteric or occult inclined freemasons.
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Apr 16, 2014 03:48
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gently caress Im immensely happy about what happened tonight.
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Apr 16, 2014 04:45
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Angry Birds Suicide posted:Cut me some slack man that took almost 4 hours and I'm exhausted okay Ah, I remember when the goat RUNNING was the problem.
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Apr 16, 2014 04:47
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Angry Birds Suicide posted:gently caress Im immensely happy about what happened tonight. Welcome, brother. Now you just absorb everything you can. Ask lots of questions. And enjoy it. You're a Freemason for life now, you don't need to rush through the degrees.
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Apr 16, 2014 04:48
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Colton posted:Welcome, brother. Now you just absorb everything you can. Ask lots of questions. And enjoy it. You're a Freemason for life now, you don't need to rush through the degrees. My mentor asked if I had any questions after the ceremony but I have so many it was almost impossible to get an answer besides "in due time" lol. Thank you brother!
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Apr 16, 2014 04:59
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Angry Birds Suicide posted:My mentor asked if I had any questions after the ceremony but I have so many it was almost impossible to get an answer besides "in due time" lol. Thank you brother! Welcome to the Craft, brother! I'm always reachable by PM if you have any questions that need to be a bit more "tyled".
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Angry Birds Suicide posted:gently caress Im immensely happy about what happened tonight. Congrats, Brother! Go play some Goat Simulator to prep for the examination for the FC degree.
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Apr 16, 2014 05:20
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QPZIL posted:Welcome to the Craft, brother! Jumping on this. I'm a newer brother and not as accomplished as QPZIL, but I'd be happy to talk as well. In my own little bit of humblebrag, the MM lecture is way easier to learn than the FC one, in my opinion. I feel like I'm flying through this one, thanks to the familiarity of its topic and the way it's structured.
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Apr 16, 2014 14:21
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Angry Birds Suicide posted:gently caress Im immensely happy about what happened tonight. I know it's been said, but again, congratulations. As for me, tomorrow is my first night as Thrice Illustrious Master of my cryptic council. We'll be conferring the Select Master Mason degree. Wish me luck.
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SylvainMustach posted:I know it's been said, but again, congratulations. Best of luck! I was PCW at my Cryptic Council until a little while ago, where work intervened. Such a shame that over here in Scotland, these degrees are so seldomly taken.
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