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Nessus posted:^^^- like pre-Soviet Russia Devil's advocate: doing so would eliminate an entire industry's worth of jobs, many of them skilled intellectual labor.
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The best part, in my opinion, is that he's whining about the Federal government's Central Planning program of collecting property taxes.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Devil's advocate: doing so would eliminate an entire industry's worth of jobs, many of them skilled intellectual labor.
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Apr 16, 2014 19:31
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Joementum posted:The best part, in my opinion, is that he's whining about the Federal government's Central Planning program of collecting property taxes. If you don't pay your property taxes, how will you be able to stand your ground? 
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Devil's advocate: doing so would eliminate an entire industry's worth of jobs, many of them skilled intellectual labor. Wouldn't the IRS just hire the tax prep industry to handle this new responsibility of theirs?
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haveblue posted:Wouldn't the IRS just hire the tax prep industry to handle this new responsibility of theirs? They're already doing it.
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Apr 16, 2014 19:33
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skaboomizzy posted:Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III. [Clarence] Saxby Chambliss Joementum posted:The best part, in my opinion, is that he's whining about the Federal government's Central Planning program of collecting property taxes. An unregulated Free Market Of Property Taxation Rights, being necessary to the freedom of a free State, the right of the aristocracy to keep and levy Tax Collection, shall not be infringed.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Devil's advocate: doing so would eliminate an entire industry's worth of jobs, many of them skilled intellectual labor. Eh, the main thing this would affect would be people with just W2s and maybe 1099s. The kind of people who are serviced by what are basically seasonal workers that the tax company train in October-December the year before on how to plug the right numbers into their software.
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Apr 16, 2014 19:36
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Phone posted:If you don't pay your property taxes, how will you be able to stand your ground? I don't know, but you should probably ask the State legislature, since the Federal government doesn't collect property tax.
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Apr 16, 2014 19:39
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loquacius posted:"Albert Carrington." BOOM. Benedict Cumberbatch.
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Apr 16, 2014 19:40
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Lancelot posted:I mostly lurk D&D, but I was wondering how much interest there would be on a thread on Piketty's book. Fried Chicken posted:I would be extremely interested in such a thread Fruity Rudy posted:I think that's a terrific thread idea for those of us without enough spare time to wade though the entire book. I'm fascinated by the research but I don't have the bandwidth to get through 577 pages of data.
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withak posted:Benedict Cumberbatch. Martin Freeman(-on-the-land).
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Apr 16, 2014 21:59
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withak posted:Benedict Cumberbatch. The only person to play Sherlock Holmes with a name stranger than Sherlock Holmes.
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Apr 16, 2014 22:01
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So, like a lot of people, I filed my taxes at the last minute last night using TurboTax. I've been using it for years. That's around 80 bucks a year and an hour of my time each year. I know it was a completely impotent outlet, but whatever, I couldn't help myself. At the end of the chute, I used the opportunity to rate them 0 and provided feedback basically saying something along the lines of: "As a Californian that just takes the standard deduction like the majority of Americans, I would prefer the IRS do my taxes for me for free. It would save me 80 bucks a year and an hour of my time. Your "service" is a parasite, sucking money away from the dwindling working and middle class of this country." Anyone else bust out some impotent rage against Intuit last night?
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Joementum posted:The best part, in my opinion, is that he's whining about the Federal government's Central Planning program of collecting property taxes. Joey Ramone: "Go to hell, you old bastard!" Mr. Burns: "Have the Rolling Stones killed." Smithers: "But sir, those aren't-" Mr. Burns: "Do as I say!"
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Apr 16, 2014 22:05
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If you make under $58k some companies let you file online for free apparently.
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Apr 16, 2014 22:10
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If you make under 52k/year the IRS will do your taxes for you for free: http://www.irs.gov/Individuals/Free-Tax-Return-Preparation-for-You-by-Volunteers
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Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:If you make under $58k some companies let you file online for free apparently. I'm a bit over that. Still, that's pretty cool. Do you know what companies? Does this include state returns too? Going out on a limb -- is Costco one of these companies?
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Dahbadu posted:I'm a bit over that. Still, that's pretty cool. Do you know what companies? Does this include state returns too? It's not based on who you work for, just go to the IRS website they have a list of like a dozen people you can pick from to run your taxes for free, federally. State typically cost about 8-9 bucks.
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Apr 16, 2014 22:19
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Swan Oat posted:If you make under 52k/year the IRS will do your taxes for you for free: http://www.irs.gov/Individuals/Free-Tax-Return-Preparation-for-You-by-Volunteers Dammit, the poor even get free help on their taxes. Lucky Ducky!  I'll have to bookmark this for next year
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Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:If you make under $58k some companies let you file online for free apparently. Swan Oat posted:If you make under 52k/year the IRS will do your taxes for you for free: http://www.irs.gov/Individuals/Free-Tax-Return-Preparation-for-You-by-Volunteers Dahbadu posted:I'm a bit over that. Still, that's pretty cool. Do you know what companies? Does this include state returns too? Ashcans posted:Dammit, the poor even get free help on their taxes. Lucky Ducky! I posted this link a few pages back, but you can get free tax prep and filing even if you make over $58,000. I chose the H&R Block option and it let me go through the whole process despite being over the limit.. http://www.irs.gov/uac/Free-File:-Do-Your-Federal-Taxes-for-Free State Taxes are not free, but are pretty cheap.
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Old James posted:State Taxes are not free, but are pretty cheap. I think it varies by state, I free-filed state and federal this past tax season.
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Yep, I've never paid for filing either state (Illinois) or federal taxes. My situation is just not complicated enough to warrant paying for it.
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Apr 16, 2014 22:57
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With the way the tax system is setup. If you are paying any taxes and you own your own company you are doing it wrong. The deck is stacked so in favor of business owners right now that if you are complaining about federal taxes you are either stupid or lazy. State taxes are a bit harder to weasle out of though.
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Apr 16, 2014 22:58
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California has a free website where you enter the stuff from your federal return and it does the rest for you.
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In "Ameridoes as American" news, it looks like Vice President Joe Biden has recently joined Instagram. I for one welcome the blurry pictures of the capital building, his Trans Am, and the selfies with the POTUS.
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So in motherfuckers who complain about taxes news, the Koch Brothers are literal cartoon villains. They basically back legislation to ban municipalities from running buses. Yeah. quote:I don't have to tell you who the Koch brothers are. They're the Lannisters of America, using their money and influence to control the country from behind the scenes. http://www.atlredline.com/the-koch-brothers-are-just-swinging-their-dicks-around-1563913478 Of course the top rated comment is whining about how the Koch Bros aren't getting a fair shake. 
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There is an interesting article in the comments of that Koch article about how they support gay marriage, drug decriminalization and isolationist foreign policy. It also says they each donated ten million to the ACLU to fight the Patriot Act. Anyone know how true these claims are? And their views on fiscal policy are still atrocious of course, but they're not unilaterally evil like I thought.
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Speaking of Biden, the conservatives on my facebook feed are going apeshit over Biden apparently saying "it was worth it" at the boston bombing memorial. Anyone know about the details on this or have a link to the full speech? All I can find are short soundbites a few seconds long, so context is sort of not there concretely. EDIT: The video that keeps getting linked is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVp2bowIeNQ
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Khisanth Magus posted:The koch brothers have taken any satire out of politics because no matter what you can come up with it is no worse than what it's already happening. They are Saturday morning cartoon villains in the flesh. The Kochs are the guy that tries to close down a community center and gets thrown into a swimming pool or something by Mr. T at the end of the movie. Monkey Fracas fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Apr 17, 2014 |
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Bhaal posted:Speaking of Biden, the conservatives on my facebook feed are going apeshit over Biden apparently saying "it was worth it" at the boston bombing memorial. I'm guessing "it was worth it" means "flying across the country and spending a bunch of my (very god damned valuable) time was worth it to hear you guys talk." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scwQBvYEX5o Full speech, I think. He really clearly means coming back was worth it. My favorite thing I've seen is this  Breitbart article. Lieberal Media protecting Joe Specifically quote:If a Republican had said something similarly stupid and awkward, though, he would have been crucified - because in the media's eyes no Republican ever means well. Republicans don't get crucified for saying stupid and awkward things that sound like the opposite of what they mean, they get crucified for saying stupid and awkward things that sound exactly like what they mean. Magres fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Apr 17, 2014 |
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Magres posted:I'm guessing "it was worth it" means "flying across the country and spending a bunch of my (very god damned valuable) time was worth it to hear you guys talk." If that's what he meant he did a real lovely job of phrasing it.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:There is an interesting article in the comments of that Koch article about how they support gay marriage, drug decriminalization and isolationist foreign policy. It also says they each donated ten million to the ACLU to fight the Patriot Act. Anyone know how true these claims are? That's all pretty consistent with their libertarian ideology. They don't give a poo poo about any of that so long as they can do whatever they like without any peasants getting a say though dumb things like "laws" and "government". They are unilaterally evil. And they're still happy to give money to people who are against gay marriage and drug legalization and all that if it gets them things that are more important to them, like more money to buy more influence.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:If that's what he meant he did a real lovely job of phrasing it. He phrased it horribly, but now that I'm watching more of the speech it's definitely what he meant and he wasn't thinking and skipped the words "to come down" when he said "it was worth it (to come down) just to hear you talk." The phrasing would have been fine if he hadn't skipped some really crucial words. The guy is known for being kind of lovely with words 
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Magres posted:He phrased it horribly, but now that I'm watching more of the speech it's definitely what he meant and he wasn't thinking and skipped the words "to come down" when he said "it was worth it (to come down) just to hear you talk." The phrasing would have been fine if he hadn't skipped some really crucial words. Yeah I've always assumed that "BIDEN THE GAFFE MACHINE heh" could probably be easily explained by the fact that he was a stutterer and learned fluent speaking in his early twenties, and given the amount of energy and thought he has to put into just saying words correctly probably makes it easier for precise phrasing to get away from him occasionally. This is basically never mentioned anywhere, though.
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Magres posted:He phrased it horribly, but now that I'm watching more of the speech it's definitely what he meant and he wasn't thinking and skipped the words "to come down" when he said "it was worth it (to come down) just to hear you talk." The phrasing would have been fine if he hadn't skipped some really crucial words.
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Magres posted:I'm guessing "it was worth it" means "flying across the country and spending a bunch of my (very god damned valuable) time was worth it to hear you guys talk." It's easy to assume the worst of someone you're generally opposed to, sure, but I think if the situation were inverted and someone like John Boehner said that I would still have the reaction of "yeah, that was probably something well meaning but very poorly worded" Kind of like "corporations are people"--god I need a shower after defending this--pretty sure his message was "corporations aren't some scary monolith, they are in fact comprised of and run by ordinary people" instead of the "A corporation === A legal human personhood" angle. I am actually okay with that sentiment (though not so much with the sole driving motivation, or the power structure within) because I think a similar thing needs to be kept in mind by other folks in regards to DA GUB'MINT 
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Bhaal posted:Kind of like "corporations are people"--god I need a shower after defending this--pretty sure his message was "corporations aren't some scary monolith, they are in fact comprised of and run by ordinary people" instead of the "A corporation === A legal human personhood" angle. If you watch the video of it this is what he meant to say and what he tries to say he meant after the crowd boos him. The crowd then insists that corporations profits are going into the pockets of the rich like him which he then declares as making his point.
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