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The -2 is what's really bugging me. There's no room for threaten, or even threaten w/o haste. Whatever it is, you're gaining control of it forever. It has to be "Gain control of target [type]". There's not even enough room for "Noncreature permanent" I think it's either artifact or permanent. Artifact would be more flavorful, so that's my guess. Nonland permanent fits, too.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Not to derail from DACK FAYDEN, GREATEST THIEF IN THE MULTIVERSE chat, but I had to step away from MTG Salvation card evaluation threads. They are so, so bad, it makes my teeth hurt. They evaluate every creature as though your opponent has two open mana and a Doom Blade in hand at all times, and every 3-drop as though your opponent has T3 Domri T4 Polukranos in every game. MTG Salvation is a bad forum.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Not to derail from DACK FAYDEN, GREATEST THIEF IN THE MULTIVERSE chat, but I had to step away from MTG Salvation card evaluation threads. They are so, so bad, it makes my teeth hurt. They evaluate every creature as though your opponent has two open mana and a Doom Blade in hand at all times, and every 3-drop as though your opponent has T3 Domri T4 Polukranos in every game. Honestly that's not all that different than this thread. 
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Just looking at text spacing again, I'm pretty sure -6 has to be "Whenever you cast a spell that targets" and not "Whenever a player casts a spell that targets". There appears to be slightly not enough room on a line for the latter.
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Yeah, this thread is a big downer during spoiler season. I'm big into design and love to appreciate all the angles and formats of Magic, whereas most people here are immediately dismissive of anything that's not a Standard/Modern $20 monster.
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So is the full card art like actively being decrypted by the internet as we speak? I assumed the first faux-ripped card image was all we were getting but then we get a little slice extra shortly after.DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Not to derail from DACK FAYDEN, GREATEST THIEF IN THE MULTIVERSE chat, but I had to step away from MTG Salvation card evaluation threads. They are so, so bad, it makes my teeth hurt. They evaluate every creature as though your opponent has two open mana and a Doom Blade in hand at all times, and every 3-drop as though your opponent has T3 Domri T4 Polukranos in every game. I feel this way about card evaluations I read on most forums, including this one 
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Apr 17, 2014 04:09
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MiddleEastBeast posted:So is the full card art like actively being decrypted by reddit as we speak? I assumed the first faux-ripped card image was all we were getting but then we get a little slice extra shortly after. I'm pretty sure the current image comes from the previous image with the alpha channel removed.
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Frankly most players(Myself included!) are pretty bad at evaluating all but the most obviously good or obviously bad cards when it comes to actual tournament playability. And even good players can totally miss the boat on a card.
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Kasonic posted:Yeah, this thread is a big downer during spoiler season. I'm big into design and love to appreciate all the angles and formats of Magic, whereas most people here are immediately dismissive of anything that's not a Standard/Modern $20 monster. It's fun to be jaded! And statistically it's a lot safer, too.
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MiddleEastBeast posted:feel this way about card evaluations I read on most forums, including this one It is good to be reminded occasionally that it is not just goons that suck at card evaluation  .
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Attorney at Funk posted:It's fun to be jaded! And statistically it's a lot safer, too. *Keeps putting together his Pharika deck in spite of this topic*
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I think for card evaluation you gotta figure out what the format is doing. For Modern there are several decks that win on or occasionally before turn 4. You need a gameplan for winning or stopping someone from winning on turn 4. For Legacy your first 3 turns are the most important in the match and a shitload will be going down in them. For Standard* you need an anti-aggro plan, you need to deal with Thassa/powerful enchantments, you need beefy guys to win through verdicts, and you need some card draw. * Can say 'gently caress it' then run a super aggressive aggro deck that lives or dies in the first five turns. Once burn became a tier 1 deck it seems like you want some incidental life gain too.
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Korak posted:That was fast. Izzet! Emblems! Gain control! How did the get to the second part of the image? I'm finding the marketing cooler than the cards.
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This is a bad omen, they spoiled Jace TMS the exact same way!
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Lord Of Texas posted:This is a bad omen, they spoiled Jace TMS the exact same way! Well, didn't they say they were going to be taking advantage of the fact that he was "Legacy-only" to push him a bit? Could easily be on Jace's power level, or at least designed to be, and either way there's no chance of him making GBS threads up Standard or Modern!
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Literally The Worst posted:How did the get to the second part of the image? I'm finding the marketing cooler than the cards. Purplehaze2112 44 points 1 hour ago (43|0) I opened my 1.png with picture viewer and got more of the card, will upload in a second. Edit: in paint and such i saw what you saw, but i opened it in picture viewer and got [the half picture]. http://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/2381zh/this_was_flashed_at_the_end_of_the_conspiracy/cguiegz I tried it, it works. Removing the alpha layer of the "cracked" version does nothing.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Not to derail from DACK FAYDEN, GREATEST THIEF IN THE MULTIVERSE chat, but I had to step away from MTG Salvation card evaluation threads. They are so, so bad, it makes my teeth hurt. They evaluate every creature as though your opponent has two open mana and a Doom Blade in hand at all times, and every 3-drop as though your opponent has T3 Domri T4 Polukranos in every game. I mostly get annoyed with the phrase "dies to Doom Blade" simply because its an excuse to not explain an often-relevant argument in favor of a slogan.
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Angry Grimace posted:I mostly get annoyed with the phrase "dies to Doom Blade" simply because its an excuse to not explain an often-relevant argument in favor of a slogan. I'm tired of the unnecessary qualifier "sure it can be Thoughtseized, but-", like yes we know it is a Magic card, thanks for clarifying that.
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So, Oblivion Ring and Mesmeric Fiend updated to the new template, and a flash grave pact? All of these are good cards(and I imagine we'll get like a dozen people exclaiming that new Grave Pact is perfect in their EDH deck), but none of them are that exciting. Edit: Thanks for posting more cards and making this post look stupid, Zorak  I feel like they whiffed a bit on Arachne's flavor, but I do like the nyx weaver, although I don't think it's very good. Elyv fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Apr 17, 2014 |
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New O-ring, I was wondering when that was going to turn up. The spider could be a potential dredge option? It attacks and blocks in addition to filling the yard, and being able to fetch back things like removal that get binned seems good
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 Fixed Oblivion Ring and Mesmeric Fiend, interesting.Potential nice gift for dredge, though I don't know if they'll prefer two cards a turn for three mana to 4-5 cards for two mana right now. edit: Potentially very relevant that the spider can block Specters erryday.
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I'm digging Nyx Weaver, it supports the poo poo out of the Dredge deck.
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Welcome to flavortown E: love nyx Weaver
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How many cards are left to spoil? There have been disappointingly few cards to use in a keranos deck, I was hoping izzet would get more fun spells. New mesmeric fiend is cool though.
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Decent bone thrown to BG. Digging the black Dictate. I think this makes 3 modern legal oblivion ring type cards? That Mono White Enchantments deck will probably appreciate the extra card when needed. Brain Maggot art is insane. Weaver is kind of neat since you can put her in the graveyard and have a 1/3 to bestow something onto. Too slow for standard probably even if its a nice idea.
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Banishing Light makes me really happy. Amazing art, cleaner effect than O-Ring, and a perfect name without any set-specific hooks.
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Have people at Wizards explicitly said that they're moving to this new templating for all temporary exile effects going forward? I can see how it's more new-player-friendly but I miss the wonky stuff the old template used to allow for.
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Gyshall posted:Welcome to flavortown I think the Renowned Weaver is Arachne. That's awesome 
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Fingers McLongDong posted:How many cards are left to spoil? There have been disappointingly few cards to use in a keranos deck, I was hoping izzet would get more fun spells. New mesmeric fiend is cool though. About half, but we've seen all of the Mythics.
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Kasonic posted:Banishing Light makes me really happy. Amazing art, cleaner effect than O-Ring, and a perfect name without any set-specific hooks. If I'm  about it (and I am) I have to say that Oblivion Ring struck me as a much nicer name for the effect. A banishing light sounds like a one-time spell like an instant or sorcery, whereas an oblivion ring sounds like something you'd erect to keep something banished.That said, you're right that it is a fine name for a core set plant. Brain Maggot would be too, except they made it an enchantment creature which probably disqualifies it from a reprinting in name in most contexts.
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DEICIDE. OH MY GOD I LOVE THIS SET.
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Elyv posted:(and I imagine we'll get like a dozen people exclaiming that new Grave Pact is perfect in their EDH deck) It's me. I'm the guy.
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MiddleEastBeast posted:Have people at Wizards explicitly said that they're moving to this new templating for all temporary exile effects going forward? I can see how it's more new-player-friendly but I miss the wonky stuff the old template used to allow for.
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