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Korak posted:Reprisal seems really strong for its cost. It was originally printed back in the days when there were barely any big creatures around worth playing.
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I like the dual mode cards that either buff enchantment creatures or act as removal.
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Apr 18, 2014 06:19
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I don't know if these were posted but, they're pretty awesome. I took these at PAX.  
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Zorak posted:I like the dual mode cards that either buff enchantment creatures or act as removal. Armament of Nyx seems insanely good for limited, and could even be Standard playable. Battle Mastery or Pacifism on the same card?
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Apr 18, 2014 06:22
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I like how much Journey encourages you to diversify threats instead of voltroning. The increase of powerful spot removal and strive encourage you to spread out buffs on your team instead of building one insanely strong man.
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Apr 18, 2014 06:25
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What a Judas posted:I don't know if these were posted but, they're pretty awesome. I took these at PAX. Isn't that Gavin Veryhey?
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Zorak posted:I like the dual mode cards that either buff enchantment creatures or act as removal. Armanent of Nyx is great.  : Oh man, I'm having a little trouble carrying this giant, fuckoff spear. : Wow, that's too bad. Maybe if you were Nyxborn-strong like me...
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Apr 18, 2014 06:25
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That Chariot seems really good. Best equipment we've seen in a while, though that's not saying much. Has there been any equipment that saw significant Standard play since Runechanter's Pike?
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Nessian Game Warden possibly could see some play in some Mono Green decks to keep your hand stacked? Its not as powerful as the current options but it does have synergies to keep pumping creatures out every turn. Satyr Shaman could see play I guess in that Modern Shaman deck? Dunno what the deck wants other than Shaman type.  I'm loving this card even if its expensive. Korak fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Apr 18, 2014 |
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Apr 18, 2014 06:26
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I really hope that some sort of janky astral slide deck comes out of the constellation flicker enchantment.
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Apr 18, 2014 06:29
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I wish there were some lower costed Constellation cards (in the 1-2 mana range) but not surprised given that it would be really good there.
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Apr 18, 2014 06:30
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Solidarity of Heroes really makes me want to keep trying G/W heroic even though I know it's futile. Still going to be insane in limited with Heroic dudes.
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Apr 18, 2014 06:32
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Rogue 7 posted:Solidarity of Heroes really makes me want to keep trying G/W heroic even though I know it's futile. Still going to be insane in limited with Heroic dudes.
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Apr 18, 2014 06:33
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Sade posted:
"Sorry we couldn't do gorgon tribal, to make up for it minotaur tribal is now gorgon tribal."
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meanolmrcloud posted:I really hope that some sort of janky astral slide deck comes out of the constellation flicker enchantment. Oh poo poo, I managed to somehow miss that. Freakin' sweet. I'm going to get so much mileage out of that baby.
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Apr 18, 2014 06:34
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Chariot is cool in the way that a good kitchen sink (and kitchen table) Magic card is. Other casual observations Gluttonous Cyclops is loving hilarious. Starfall has hella sweet art. Green now gets an undercosted fatty with a drawback which has been mostly Black's domain. Swarmborn Giant is even a 6/6 for 4. Lacks DD's evasion but has monstrous that could let you kill the Demon in a straight fight. Still worse, I imagine. And Cymede thinks she's not hurting the mortal cause by supporting Keranos according to Lightning Diadem.
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If more hexproof decks mean less mono black devotion I guess I'm all for that Can't wait for the "go off" stories with this one in limited with 2 cantrip auras 
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Entropic posted:That Chariot seems really good. Best equipment we've seen in a while, though that's not saying much. I cannot think of any. Wescoe's Civic Sabre deck (wasn't that RTR block only?) is the only one I could even think of outside of Cuneo testing Haunted Plate mail in the super early versions of u/w control. Pike was so good. EOT flash a resto in and hit for 10 youre dead.
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Haha, I love Quarry Colossus' bury effect. I love this set and I haven't even played it. 
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Zorak posted:Isn't that Gavin Veryhey? Sure is. He cosplays Jace pretty much all the time. Loving Life Partner posted:Haha, I love Quarry Colossus' bury effect. I love this set and I haven't even played it. Bury meant something entirely different when I started playing.
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Loving Life Partner posted:Haha, I love Quarry Colossus' bury effect. I love this set and I haven't even played it. This will be so loving annoying in my friends' Bant Flicker EDH decks. 
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What a Judas posted:Bury meant something entirely different when I started playing.
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I'm hoping Feast of Dreams ends up being as useful as I think it will be. A limited Doom Blade?
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Something interesting from a dude on Salvation:quote:I'd say this is the best set of the block, but that's not saying much. This block hasn't really had much that's seen play outside of Standard as of yet(not including EDH/tabletop)., and I don't see this set really changing that. Mana Confluence is the only thing I can see that will definitely be played outside of Standard I recently went through the top 300 cards in Modern and counted up how many times a card from each block appears. I realize Modern does not represent all of Magic (or even much for that matter), but I think the results are a good indication of the power level of the block, not to mention interesting for their own sake (at least I think so Smile ). FYI...Cards that have been reprinted multiple times within the Modern timeframe are credited to their block of origin only (ie. Shocklands count towards Ravnica but not RTR block), older cards that were reprinted during the Modern timeframe count towards the 1st Modern block they appeared in (ie. Terminate counts towards Shards). The results are from MTG Top8.com. Here's the top 300 with top 100 appearances in parentheses:
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Loving Life Partner posted:Haha, I love Quarry Colossus' bury effect. I love this set and I haven't even played it. I thought they would never do something like this again. I'm glad they are. Also, you guys are forgetting something.  First Lamia!
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Maybe they don't want minotaur tribal to be a thing in limited (or block) and they're holding off the good minotaur lord until M15? Give goblins a break. Turn digeridoo into some kind of tribal cycle? (This will not happen)
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Bugsy posted:Something interesting from a dude on Salvation: I am not too surprised by this, people threw a fit over Zen/Scars block Standard and people were still pretty unhappy about the power level of Scars/ISD Standard. Unfortunately people now seem to be unhappy about the lower power and creature combat focused Standard, but there seem to be a lot less people unhappy with this than JTMS or Delver. I think we're going to see a lot more creature combat Standard in the future and I suspect we're going to be seeing a small number of eternal cards coming out of it.
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Hour of Need looks interesting. It is like a more flexible single-colored Dragonshift, and being able to pay 1U (Strive U) to permanently turn lots of dude into 4/4 Sphinxes at instant speed with Thaumaturge out is kind of sick... Edit: Oh poo poo! Bloodcrazed Hoplite. Finally black gets a 2 drop Heroic dude! 
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I absolutely can't wait to Oracle of Bones someone with a Worst Fears in hand. 
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rabidsquid posted:I am not too surprised by this, people threw a fit over Zen/Scars block Standard and people were still pretty unhappy about the power level of Scars/ISD Standard. Unfortunately people now seem to be unhappy about the lower power and creature combat focused Standard, but there seem to be a lot less people unhappy with this than JTMS or Delver. There seems to be this huge stigma about combat that I don't understand. One of the biggest complaints about modern Magic from people that have played for a while is that now it's all about combat, as if that means that it's impossible to play a control deck in standard. And what makes this standard more combat based than other recent standards or even Modern? Does a format that use creatures mean that it's necessarily less powerful and less complex?
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mango sentinel posted:Maybe they don't want minotaur tribal to be a thing in limited (or block) and they're holding off the good minotaur lord until M15? Give goblins a break. Turn digeridoo into some kind of tribal cycle? (This will not happen) But that would make the Minotaur Lord either Red or Black. It has to be both, we can't have that.
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Kabanaw posted:There seems to be this huge stigma about combat that I don't understand. One of the biggest complaints about modern Magic from people that have played for a while is that now it's all about combat, as if that means that it's impossible to play a control deck in standard. And what makes this standard more combat based than other recent standards or even Modern? Does a format that use creatures mean that it's necessarily less powerful and less complex? I will never understand the hatred for creature combat. People are like "Magic is dumb now, it's all about turning dudes sideways!!!" as if it's ever been about anything but that. There's usually one control build per standard and the rest all have creature win cons. Even the most oppressive Standard decks ever, like Affinity, Faeries, Goblins and Caw-blade, used creatures to do the killing. They just abused broken mechanics and cards to 1) play more powerful creatures faster than any opponent could and 2) stop their opponent from interacting with them in any way. Control has always been a viable archetype, and control plays almost no creatures, but it usually wins via Aetherling. And esper/UW control is a top tier deck this season! What are people complaining about? Do they want a return to Jargrim/Storm days? Pro tip: that sucked really hard. People who want cards on the level of Cryptic Command and Bitterblossom in Standard either forgot what it was like or never played when Cryptic Command and Bitterblossom actually WERE in Standard (alongside Thoughtseize, and Clique, and Mutavault...)
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The only decks in Standard that don't win by turning dudes sideways are Boros Burn and eye-gouging U/W/x control decks that just cycle Elixirs. All other decks win by turning dudes sideways, including Aetherling and Elspeth tokens.
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When people complain about "turning dudes sideways" they're exaggerating about the lack of non-creature options and don't literally mean "this format is 100% creatures and I wish it was 0% creatures." You know this. Come on. Wishing there were more non-combat ways to interact doesn't mean "Drownyard as coreset staple or we riot."
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What's wrong with some old fashioned man to man fightmuscle? Turning dudes sideways is a true testament to strength and vigor!
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AlternateNu posted:The only decks in Standard that don't win by turning dudes sideways are Boros Burn and eye-gouging U/W/x control decks that just cycle Elixirs. All other decks win by turning dudes sideways, including Aetherling and Elspeth tokens. And Murdergoats... 
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Nehru the Damaja posted:When people complain about "turning dudes sideways" they're exaggerating about the lack of non-creature options and don't literally mean "this format is 100% creatures and I wish it was 0% creatures." You know this. Come on. Wishing there were more non-combat ways to interact doesn't mean "Drownyard as coreset staple or we riot." Yeah, but that's the thing, noncreature stuff has been rather limited to a few things like storm, counterspell decks, and a handful of other things. Plus we have a color tied to creatures that just kind of sucked for the longest time for the most part. If we step back on the creature options, I'm rather wondering what roles each of the colors would fall into, because it seems like in a post-creature-based world of Magic, you just uproot green from its new and honestly better spot without careful consideration.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Even the most oppressive Standard decks There's a correlation between people that played prior to the modern card frame border and people that whine about herp derp dudes sideways.
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AnacondaHL posted:There's a correlation between people that played prior to the modern card frame border and people that whine about herp derp dudes sideways. Before Scars-Innistrad Standard, the last time I played Constructed was Combo Winter...
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