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stubblyhead posted:Why does hibernate even exist for a server OS? When would you ever want to actually do that? It's all Server 2012R2/2008R2, but if you apply the wrong GPO settings and not in the proper OU you can easily put the server to sleep after 15 minutes of idle.
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Sickening posted:Cheap decision makers will use a workstation OS as servers. Its always more painful than its worth. Running Windows 7 Professional 32-bit on a PowerEdge, here. It's not because we're cheap. 
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Apr 17, 2014 20:56
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Actually the only time we use Desktop OS's as anything that can be considered a "server" is for agent relays on our phone systems at sites; but that will be gone soon. We actually aren't cheap and do things by the book, which is a real nice change from the SMB market space.
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Apr 17, 2014 20:58
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blackswordca posted:CIO: *quiet for a minute* "oh, i was testing you" Are you paraphrasing or did he actually say that unironically?
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Apr 17, 2014 20:59
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Lord Dudeguy posted:Running Windows 7 Professional 32-bit on a PowerEdge, here. Win 7 Pro 64-bit on a ProLiant G4. :> It was an old ESXi host that was going to be trashed that I re-purposed for things I didn't need a server OS for.
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Apr 17, 2014 21:10
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Windows XP on a Poweredge. It's so one guy who's "too old to bother with a computer" can have Outlook download and send his mail to a printer in his office.
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Apr 17, 2014 21:14
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vibur posted:Windows XP on a Poweredge. Up until he retired a couple years ago, we had a $700/hr lawyer that had never used a computer in his life, and we hired someone to be a full-time computer Sherpa specifically to handle email and stuff for him.
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Apr 17, 2014 21:17
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I wonder how this monstrosity started out
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Apr 17, 2014 21:21
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Sickening posted:It never makes sense. Just use a server OS if you want something to be a server. Enough will bite you in the rear end later to have to worry about a single user OS. Well ideally you'd have something that runs on Linux or can be bought as a service, but there are plenty of little things that need to run on Windows that might be the first and only Windows box in an organisation - door access controllers for example. Windows Server isn't expensive, but if you need to buy a bunch of CALs as well then it's a lot of money for no real benefit over running it on 7 Pro. I also wouldn't call a non-server version of Windows a "single user OS", the code base is practically the same.
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Apr 17, 2014 21:29
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pr0digal posted:I wonder how this monstrosity started out That looks like all my (clean) racks...
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Apr 17, 2014 22:02
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Alien Arcana posted:Are you paraphrasing or did he actually say that unironically? That was a direct quote
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Apr 17, 2014 22:04
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Many tickets came in: someone in central corporate IT pushed out an update to IE to force the homepage to our parent company's Intranet page. Which is unavailable from our network. This, of course, translates to:  The internet is broken!Except, because staff have been trained for years to use the links on our own intranet to access the applications they need, it really ends up being: My computer is broken!Double-bonus: the same update locked down the homepage setting in Internet Options so even if you know what you're doing, you can't change it back.
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Apr 17, 2014 22:06
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Joining the Workstation on Server hardwar (Win 7 x64 Pro). Setup a "master workstation" at an old job on a Poweredge 2950. This pretty much just sat in the Colo and loafed along.
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Apr 17, 2014 22:08
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"End of life is just a scam to drum up sales. There's nothing wrong with using an operating system for many years past end of life." What. The. gently caress.
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Apr 17, 2014 22:14
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larchesdanrew posted:"End of life is just a scam to drum up sales. There's nothing wrong with using an operating system for many years past end of life." That's when you say 'End of life means no more security patches. I'd rather not risk the security of our data or network because we're using an outdated OS.'
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Apr 17, 2014 22:16
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GreenNight posted:That's when you say 'End of life means no more security patches. I'd rather not risk the security of our data or network because we're using an outdated OS.' I once had a very long arguement with another admin over windows security updates. His policy was to approve them biannually. Lets just say his reasons were never very logical.
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Apr 17, 2014 22:19
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:"press F4" This is one thing when it's an endearing senior citizen but a whole different beast when it's a professional coworker who uses a computer for at least five hours a day. I understand proper software development adhering to stereotypes and all, but people are just so clueless. Do car people feel like this around non-car people? I feel like it's more like someone who's been commuting for 10 years asking a mechanic how to use a turn signal.
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Apr 17, 2014 22:20
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Sickening posted:I once had a very long arguement with another admin over windows security updates. His policy was to approve them biannually. Lets just say his reasons were never very logical. I'm betting he was just lazy and didn't want to test patches every month.
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Apr 17, 2014 22:20
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:That looks like all my (clean) racks... But I'm sure yours are in some sort of lockable temperature controlled room
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Apr 17, 2014 22:31
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pr0digal posted:But I'm sure yours are in some sort of lockable temperature controlled room Hahaha. Some are maybe one or the other. Only a few are both.
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Apr 17, 2014 23:04
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Roargasm posted:This is one thing when it's an endearing senior citizen but a whole different beast when it's a professional coworker who uses a computer for at least five hours a day. I understand proper software development adhering to stereotypes and all, but people are just so clueless. Do car people feel like this around non-car people? I feel like it's more like someone who's been commuting for 10 years asking a mechanic how to use a turn signal. Presumably that's a BMW mechanic.
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Apr 18, 2014 01:18
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larchesdanrew posted:"End of life is just a scam to drum up sales. There's nothing wrong with using an operating system for many years past end of life." You should get in writing that you cannot be held responsible for any future security issues.
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Apr 18, 2014 01:28
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Volmarias posted:You should get in writing that you cannot be held responsible for any future security issues. This is what I did concerning our 8 year old linux webserver that has never been patched.
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Apr 18, 2014 01:31
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pr0digal posted:I wonder how this monstrosity started out larchesdanrew posted:"End of life is just a scam to drum up sales. There's nothing wrong with using an operating system for many years past end of life."
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Apr 18, 2014 03:48
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pr0digal posted:I wonder how this monstrosity started out Oh man. I was looking at the cable mess and didn't even see the cluster of power strips and the table fan coolers.
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Apr 18, 2014 03:57
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they could have at least sprung the $55 for a consumer grade UPS edit: how much do you want to bet its all plugged into the same circuit as the kitchenette on the other side of the wall, and they all know that you have to turn the lights off before using the microwave? ZetsurinPower fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Apr 18, 2014 |
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Apr 18, 2014 04:22
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Lum posted:Never understood why people say to start with oil changes. It's an unpleasant, filthy, messy job and if you screw up it's even worse to clean up. Even if I do it perfectly I'm still going to end up with gravel and general road debris stuck in my hair. The main reason I do my own oil changes is that either I pay $85 for the dealer to do it right, or i pay $45 for some idiot monkeys to do it with lovely oil and a lovely oil filter. I can do it myself (as a slightly less idiot) for $30 and use synthetic oil and a nice WIX filter instead of the crap they use. If I could find an oil change place that didnt suck rear end, i'd totally agree with your logic, though.
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Kreeblah posted:I get that it's not a magic bullet (because those don't exist). I'm mostly looking for ideas for how to improve our processes and better ways to identify areas where we need to improve them, but I was curious whether it's valuable or not. Most of what I've been able to find, though, has been feedback from people who teach ITIL for a living (and therefore have a vested interest in it) or people who just get the Foundations cert and stop there so they can tick the "I've heard of ITIL" box. it's valuable if you use it right. Basically, look at it like a standard, like T568B. You say to someone, "hey, wire this using T568b" and they should either know what they need to do, or know what to look up. Same with ITIL. You say, "Let's have the service desk in London handle configuration management while the one in Dallas handles incident management" and that statement is built around standards that mean something and can be referenced by other people. (And itil folks will know how silly my statement is, but thats another point all together) At its most basic, it's just a bunch of pre-made definitions for processes and roles instead of having to define all your own (like defining your own wiring standard is dumb)
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Apr 18, 2014 04:36
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Oh, one size fits all policies... You will never get old. 
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Apr 18, 2014 07:35
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A ticket came in:quote:I am unable to view tickets. Also unable to submit them. 
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Apr 18, 2014 08:51
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pr0digal posted:I wonder how this monstrosity started out is that really a Y power splitter 
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pr0digal posted:I wonder how this monstrosity started out At least the rack mount equipment is in some form of rack
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Apr 18, 2014 12:55
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My favorite part is the USB Hard Drive.
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Apr 18, 2014 13:22
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Guy Axlerod posted:My favorite part is the USB Hard Drive. That's their super important very expensive backup solution!
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nitrogen posted:The main reason I do my own oil changes is that either I pay $85 for the dealer to do it right, or i pay $45 for some idiot monkeys to do it with lovely oil and a lovely oil filter. I just get my own preferred oil and take it to my local place that does all the work on my car. If I combine it with other jobs that will involve having the car on the lift anyway, it really doesn't cost much. The guy who runs that place (and still does actual work) also has a 74 Rolls Royce Silver Shadow as a project car, and so totally gets why I can be a bit anal about mine. Taking it to Kwik Fit (or, I guess Jiffy Lube in the US) is like getting geek squad in to fix your SAN.
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Apr 18, 2014 14:52
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Lum posted:getting geek squad in to fix your SAN. I really want this to happen one day, as long as I get to read a trip report.
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Apr 18, 2014 15:24
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A developer came in... ... and is being given no option other than to use the same thin-client VDI that all other people outside of IT must use. I can put dev stuff for her on an RDP VM but still... you'd think that a developer would at least merit a normal desktop, not a locked-down environment that disables everything in the Start menu other than what icons we present via a folder mapping, and doesn't allow right-clicking.
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Apr 18, 2014 15:33
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MJP posted:A developer came in... Never expect devs to be power users. Far too many are far too proud of not knowing poo poo about how computers work outside of their own little box of code, which is highly abstracted away from any actual technical knowledge.
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RFC2324 posted:Never expect devs to be power users. Far too many are far too proud of not knowing poo poo about how computers work outside of their own little box of code, which is highly abstracted away from any actual technical knowledge. There's a bit of a difference between "you don't get local admin rights" and "no right clicking for you!" though, isn't there. Context menus are kind of important in any serious IDE.
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There's certainly no harm in locking lots of stuff down, even for devs, but preventing them from installing packages and right-clicking is beyond ridiculous.
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