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Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Barudak posted:

I smell an arbitrage moment. Sell him one from your "personal collection" for $200+ or whatever amount lets you make a tidy profit.

I'm not selling my signed hardcover. I even bought an extra (softcover) copy so I wouldn't wear out my "good" copy.

I am a turbonerd.

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Barudak
May 7, 2007

Evil Mastermind posted:

I'm not selling my signed hardcover. I even bought an extra (softcover) copy so I wouldn't wear out my "good" copy.

I am a turbonerd.

I see now why you two are acquainted.

I meant make a hardcover and sell it to him. Some print shops can actually make cheap glue-bound hardcovers in a variety of sizes.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Barudak posted:

I see now why you two are acquainted.

I meant make a hardcover and sell it to him. Some print shops can actually make cheap glue-bound hardcovers in a variety of sizes.
Not so much "acquainted" as "he came into my G+ thread (in the DW community) about how awesome DW is, complained about not being able to get the book because it's always sold out, then when it was pointed out that he could get it now complained that it wasn't a hardcover because he only buys hardcovers and Fate Core was a $25 and <fart noise>".

And let's be honest here...you know he's the type who would utterly balk at not getting an offical hardcover copy.

GimmickMan
Dec 27, 2011

CaptCommy posted:

This is the opposite of what he should do if he's worried about creepy portrayals of women (or if he wants to watch interesting anime :v:).

Listen to this guy. Gargantia reduces its female characters to motivation for male characters and looking pretty. Also they were designed by people who draw porn and the end cards will remind you of that at the end of every episode.

The show's actual quality outside of that is a whole different issue but it is nothing at all like Brotherhood and I frankly have no idea where the comparison comes from.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

dwarf74 posted:

Yeah, it was a weird feeling once I realized there was a whole season that Netflix didn't have, because...

(1) Goddamn it Netflix I want to watch this show and now I need to do it elsewhere.
(2) Oh thank christ they're not going to try and squish this much closure into the last 2 episodes.

It was goddamn awesome, but now I'm looking for more anime that is both not lovely and minimally creepy about women.

But gaming news - I'm still running the Zeitgeist adventure path and it continues to impress, but man running murder investigations is hard.

While I can't speak for the quality directly, I do know that the creator of Full Metal Alchemist, Hiromu Arakawa, started work on a fantasy series based on chinese mythology after FMA called Hero Tales. Like I said, never saw it myself, but it might be like FMA considering it shares an author.

Evil Mastermind posted:

And let's be honest here...you know he's the type who would utterly balk at not getting an offical hardcover copy.
And that's why you tell him it is an official hardcopy :cheers:

Rockopolis
Dec 21, 2012

I MAKE FUN OF QUEER STORYGAMES BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH MY LIFE THAN MAKE OTHER PEOPLE CRY

I can't understand these kinds of games, and not getting it bugs me almost as much as me being weird
Wow, Kingdom is hardcore. I did not expect it to contain the line "They're making another pass! Pile up the bodies, make a fort!"
In the grim darkness of the distant past, there is only the warring states.

Might make for an interesting meta kind of game, like a larp I heard about in a podcast.
"You've just taken part in the battle of Changping; you've survived, albeit with wounds. You've also had to bury alive four hundred and fifty thousand people. How does that make you feel? Also, it's raining."

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Rockopolis posted:

Wow, Kingdom is hardcore. I did not expect it to contain the line "They're making another pass! Pile up the bodies, make a fort!"
In the grim darkness of the distant past, there is only the warring states.

Might make for an interesting meta kind of game, like a larp I heard about in a podcast.
"You've just taken part in the battle of Changping; you've survived, albeit with wounds. You've also had to bury alive four hundred and fifty thousand people. How does that make you feel? Also, it's raining."

Well the good news if you survived and buried people after the Battle of Changping is that you're Qin so you're at least victorious.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Covok posted:

And that's why you tell him it is an official hardcopy :cheers:
Pricing it would be hard because he just revealed he feels $25 is too much for a non-hardcover.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Evil Mastermind posted:

Pricing it would be hard because he just revealed he feels $25 is too much for a non-hardcover.

Work on your upsale; "Pressed from the heart of the last Dryad of the Sahara Forest, this hard cover and its pages are bound with the last magics of a dying forest so they are 100% water and stain resilient"

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Barudak posted:

Work on your upsale; "Pressed from the heart of the last Dryad of the Sahara Forest, this hard cover and its pages are bound with the last magics of a dying forest so they are 100% water and stain resilient"

Then I mail him a 3.0 PHB with the title crossed out and "DungeON WolrD" written on a piece of electrical tape on the cover.

e: I think I just figured out what one of the prizes for this month's contest will be... :getin:

Evil Mastermind fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Apr 18, 2014

Error 404
Jul 17, 2009


MAGE CURES PLOT
Funny thing, hardback dude looks exactly like I'd imagined.

Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!

Barudak posted:

Don't forget the setting highlight where in order to justify not wanting to draw naked men he made it so that every cyborg is exclusively homosexual.

Not really, but yes, he does come out and say in the notes "I made Motoko a lesbian because I didn't wanna draw a dick". It's pretty gratuitous but it's like three out of four hundred pages, YMMV. It used to be cut out of the earlier English editions from Dark Horse for obvious reasons.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Alien Rope Burn posted:

Not really, but yes, he does come out and say in the notes "I made Motoko a lesbian because I didn't wanna draw a dick". It's pretty gratuitous but it's like three out of four hundred pages, YMMV. It used to be cut out of the earlier English editions from Dark Horse for obvious reasons.

I found it notable because it creates a bunch of interesting questions and societal implications that are completely unlike our world and rife for exploration but its ultimately just used to, as stated, avoid drawing cyborg wangs*.

*Given that cyborgs basically LAN port link to have sex in this universe there is no reason to believe these exist unless Cyberpunk Trucknuts are a product I'm not aware of.

Error 404
Jul 17, 2009


MAGE CURES PLOT

Barudak posted:

Cyberpunk Trucknuts

Thank you for my future namechange.

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING
That's if I don't steal that one first, I'm debating getting rid of my random DC reference.

Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!

Barudak posted:

I found it notable because it creates a bunch of interesting questions and societal implications that are completely unlike our world and rife for exploration but its ultimately just used to, as stated, avoid drawing cyborg wangs*.

Looking back at the TPB I forgot she has a boyfriend later on. So bi, then. It doesn't work out, in any case.

And his wang is never drawn.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


Barudak posted:

I found it notable because it creates a bunch of interesting questions and societal implications that are completely unlike our world and rife for exploration but its ultimately just used to, as stated, avoid drawing cyborg wangs*.

*Given that cyborgs basically LAN port link to have sex in this universe there is no reason to believe these exist unless Cyberpunk Trucknuts are a product I'm not aware of.

To swing this back around to game talk, they are in earlier editions of Cyberpunk (well, not Trucknuts, but cyberwangs). I don't know about the current edition because the current edition is too ridiculous looking for me to currently try reading it.

Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!
The "Mr. Studd" and "Midnight Lady" implants have been with us since Cyberpunk 2020. Don't know if they were in 2013.

Was there ever an edition of Cyberpunk that wasn't ridiculous looking, though?

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib
There's ridiculous looking and then there's "why am I looking at pictures of someone's action figure collection?" Also CPv3 isn't a very good game for non-art related reasons too, so there's that.

OtspIII
Sep 22, 2002

ProfessorProf posted:

On actual forum topic: I've basically never bought a published adventure module and run it straight. Is doing this ever a good, worthwhile idea? Are there any pre-packaged dungeons that work great right out of the box?

http://www.onepagedungeon.info/

Pretty much anything from the previous years' contests will be better than almost any published module.

Basically, modules that just try to save you the work of drawing a map and give you an interesting location/situation that you can do whatever with can be really good. Modules that try to tell a story just end up railroady and generic, most of the time. A bunch of the old AD&D modules aren't bad, but I'm not sure I've ever seen a 2/3/4e published module that didn't look terrible.

I really like the one page dungeon contest because it basically forces the person making it to only include the interesting stuff. You can take one look at it and pretty well understand how to run it, which is pretty much exactly what a good module should be doing for you--saving you the effort of making content, not forcing you to study a book.

Bucnasti
Aug 14, 2012

I'll Fetch My Sarcasm Robes

Alien Rope Burn posted:

The "Mr. Studd" and "Midnight Lady" implants have been with us since Cyberpunk 2020. Don't know if they were in 2013.

They were not in the 2013 books, but as I recall there was a generic sexual implant entry in the Hardwired sourcebook that came out immediately after.
I know this not because I was a creepy teenager at the time, but because I was good friends with one.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
Dear internet, help me pick what I want to run for my next PbP.

Much like this thread, I am apparently full of Japanese cartoons, so the choices are:

Tenra, but the catch is you don't give me a full character, just your elevator pitch, then we hash out the setting and the characters all together, or

Neon Genesis FATEgelion, because I am covetous of Forums Terrorist's game but also jesus AdEva has a bunch of fiddly poo poo, or

gently caress It, Let's Figure Out How to Play Ryuutama And Then Crash And Burn.

Mr. Prokosch
Feb 14, 2012

Behold My Magnificence!

grassy gnoll posted:

Dear internet, help me pick what I want to run for my next PbP.

Much like this thread, I am apparently full of Japanese cartoons, so the choices are:

Tenra, but the catch is you don't give me a full character, just your elevator pitch, then we hash out the setting and the characters all together, or

Neon Genesis FATEgelion, because I am covetous of Forums Terrorist's game but also jesus AdEva has a bunch of fiddly poo poo, or

gently caress It, Let's Figure Out How to Play Ryuutama And Then Crash And Burn.

Do good Japanese cartoons. One Piece FATE or Attack on Titan *World hack. :colbert:

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Mr. Prokosch posted:

One Piece FATE Inverse World

FTFY

ProfessorCirno
Feb 17, 2011

The strongest! The smartest!
The rightest!
Despite OWNING Tenra I've never given it a full look but I've heard it is - frankly like many jttgs - geared somewhat against campaign play in favor of serial single shot play. Is that accurate?

Kaja Rainbow
Oct 17, 2012

~Adorable horror~

ProfessorCirno posted:

Despite OWNING Tenra I've never given it a full look but I've heard it is - frankly like many jttgs - geared somewhat against campaign play in favor of serial single shot play. Is that accurate?

It's designed to resolve a storyline in a single session. So pretty much yes.

Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!

grassy gnoll posted:

Dear internet, help me pick what I want to run for my next PbP.

I've been wanting another Tenra game since the first one ran aground. Also would love to try out Ryuutama!

And yeah, I think it's kind of hard to get excited about Eva itself, because the baggage associated with it isn't particularly interesting to me. But I could be proven wrong?

I sure have come to hate apping FATE characters, though. FATE is tricky in that it looks simple but is crazy deep in putting together characters, and it takes so much effort for me... which is extra annoying when I don't get into a given game in the end.

Mitama
Feb 28, 2011

Alien Rope Burn posted:

I sure have come to hate apping FATE characters, though. FATE is tricky in that it looks simple but is crazy deep in putting together characters, and it takes so much effort for me... which is extra annoying when I don't get into a given game in the end.

I'm currently on the theory that PBP Fate is a completely different beast compared to actually running it live, where stuff like +2 stunts and little to no paragraph explanations for each and every aspect is more welcome and appreciated on the table.

That said, I'm kinda hitting the Fate burnout myself. Whatever I'm running next, it's probably going to be on PDQ#. It looks simple and fun enough, plus I'm a little enamored with its duel mechanics.


grassy gnoll posted:

Dear internet, help me pick what I want to run for my next PbP.

Tenra sounds good.

Rockopolis
Dec 21, 2012

I MAKE FUN OF QUEER STORYGAMES BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH MY LIFE THAN MAKE OTHER PEOPLE CRY

I can't understand these kinds of games, and not getting it bugs me almost as much as me being weird
I think the problem for me with AdEva is that I'm never sure if I am supposed to be Shinji or, uh, Raiden.

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

Evil Mastermind posted:

Then I mail him a 3.0 PHB

I'm pretty sure this would count as a human rights violation.

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Lemon Curdistan posted:

I'm pretty sure this would count as a human rights violation.

It's not FATAL so it's probably fine

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Evil Mastermind posted:

I may have just seen the most mind-boggling reason for not wanting to buy an RPG that the person is really interested in: "It's not available in hardcover".
There was an RPGnetter quoted in one of the grognard.txt threads who complained about RPGs costing too much. When it was pointed out to him that RPGs were one of the cheapest possible hobbies around as long as you play the games and don't just collect the books, he said that his purchasing style was to buy a game, play it for two weeks, and then buy another game, and play that for two weeks. When I asked him if that meant he had bought and played 25 different RPGs last year, he said "yes".

Assuming that wasn't pure stdh.txt, I can't imagine what being in this guy's playgroup was like. Having to devour a new 300 page rulebook every two weeks, only to throw that knowledge away after two weeks so you can inhale another 300 page rulebook, over and over again sounded like being in a graduate seminar that never ended.

InfiniteJesters
Jan 26, 2012

grassy gnoll posted:

Dear internet, help me pick what I want to run for my next PbP.

Much like this thread, I am apparently full of Japanese cartoons, so the choices are:

Tenra, but the catch is you don't give me a full character, just your elevator pitch, then we hash out the setting and the characters all together, or

Neon Genesis FATEgelion, because I am covetous of Forums Terrorist's game but also jesus AdEva has a bunch of fiddly poo poo, or

gently caress It, Let's Figure Out How to Play Ryuutama And Then Crash And Burn.

Tenra, Tenra, Tenra!

Sionak
Dec 20, 2005

Mind flay the gap.

FMguru posted:

There was an RPGnetter quoted in one of the grognard.txt threads who complained about RPGs costing too much. When it was pointed out to him that RPGs were one of the cheapest possible hobbies around as long as you play the games and don't just collect the books, he said that his purchasing style was to buy a game, play it for two weeks, and then buy another game, and play that for two weeks. When I asked him if that meant he had bought and played 25 different RPGs last year, he said "yes".

Assuming that wasn't pure stdh.txt, I can't imagine what being in this guy's playgroup was like. Having to devour a new 300 page rulebook every two weeks, only to throw that knowledge away after two weeks so you can inhale another 300 page rulebook, over and over again sounded like being in a graduate seminar that never ended.

One year I went through 4-5 systems (World of Darkness, Mouse Guard, Monsters and Other Childish Things, Monster of the Week, maybe one more I'm forgetting). Those are all fairly moderate crunch-wise, but I think people were getting a bit burned out on jumping between them.

You'd have to dearly love learning new rules to do the two week thing, and it seems like you'd be switching over right when things were starting to click..

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Lemon Curdistan posted:

I'm pretty sure this would count as a human rights violation.
Eh, I unloaded all my 3.X stuff a while ago. I needed to make room for the other game books I buy and never play. :smithicide:

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

My paper soldiers form a wall, five paces thick and twice as tall.

Barudak posted:

Look, if you want a show that discusses the philosphical concept of personhood and how that inter-relates to a kantian framework of good action due to prompting the question when money-shooting assassin droids are stalking a reclusive day-trader sometimes you just learn to accept absolutely atrocious clothing decisions.

I know I'm coming in late on this, but you might be interested in Ergo Proxy. It's a dark, post-apocalyptic fantasy-ish show with robots, and might be the only series that is even more densely packed with intellectual meanderings and philosophy than GitS while still maintaining a - mostly - coherent plot. The animation style and visual design is distinctive too.

I'd also recommend Dennou Coil, which is a very cute and interesting cyberpunk sort of story, and Azumanga Daioh, which is sort of the original goofy slice of life high school girl show, but has the advantage of actually being funny. And Black Lagoon answers the question "What if John Woo made an anime about pirates with an old PT Boat in the South China Sea?" in the best possible way, though it also has all the issues with a John Woo action flick too. On the plus side, the voice actress for the lead heroine is supposed to be from America but speaks incredibly bad English, even for an anime VA. It's really wonderful.

For movies, anything by Miyazaki, anything by Makoto Shinkai, and Summer Wars.

Siivola
Dec 23, 2012

Comrade Gorbash posted:

On the plus side, the voice actress for the lead heroine is supposed to be from America but speaks incredibly bad English, even for an anime VA. It's really wonderful.
Megumi Toyoguchi is, as far as I can tell, completely Japanese. And oh God, does she speak awful English.

...Gee, thanks. Now I want to play something like Black Lagoon. Aside from Hollowpoint, are there even any good games for that sort of John Woo shoot all the things Hong Kong action cinema stuff?

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

My paper soldiers form a wall, five paces thick and twice as tall.

Siivola posted:

Megumi Toyoguchi is, as far as I can tell, completely Japanese. And oh God, does she speak awful English.

...Gee, thanks. Now I want to play something like Black Lagoon. Aside from Hollowpoint, are there even any good games for that sort of John Woo shoot all the things Hong Kong action cinema stuff?

Sorry, I said that poorly. I meant Revy is supposed to be American.

Siivola
Dec 23, 2012

Oh, I was wondering if that was what you meant. They probably didn't consider she'd have to speak English in the second season when they were originally casting her.

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Darksaber
Oct 18, 2001

Are you even trying?

Siivola posted:

Megumi Toyoguchi is, as far as I can tell, completely Japanese. And oh God, does she speak awful English.

...Gee, thanks. Now I want to play something like Black Lagoon. Aside from Hollowpoint, are there even any good games for that sort of John Woo shoot all the things Hong Kong action cinema stuff?

Feng Shui? I don't have personal experience with it, just what was in the Fatal & Friends threads, but it didn't sound like a terrible system at all, and I'm sure you could strip out all the time travelling mystical stuff if you want, depending on your preferred flavor of Hong Kong cinema.

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