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DamnGlitch posted:You are not a very "outside the box" thinker huh Because he doesn't want to watch shows that have panda bears shoving calculators up their butts? He's describing what science fiction does, rather than science fantasy. You're not 'inside the box' for having a preference about what cartoons you like to enjoy.
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Drifter posted:Because he doesn't want to watch shows that have panda bears shoving calculators up their butts? Where can I find this show? It sounds... intriguing.
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Apr 18, 2014 17:07
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Drifter posted:Because he doesn't want to watch shows that have panda bears shoving calculators up their butts? What the gently caress are you talking about
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Drifter posted:He's describing what science fiction does, rather than science fantasy. You're not 'inside the box' for having a preference about what cartoons you like to enjoy. Except that transhuman fiction is still science fiction? Using the idea of cybernetics and memory exchange to discuss the concept of identity and what it is attached to is still purestrain sci fi. It's not actually especially complicated philosophy!
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Mercrom posted:I think the fantastical should be an exaggerated version of something that exists, to provoke thought about real issues. GITS can get pretty "unrealistic" if you're looking for hard sci-fi, I suppose, but I'd advise you to hang on until the Laughing Man arc gets off the ground. Whereas the films and manga tend to be much more fantastical in their plot and themes, a lot of Stand-Alone Complex is about how the more things change, the more they stay the same. The first film is about merging with a computer and becoming the internet or something I don't really remember, while in Stand Alone Complex the main plot is essentially just how difficult to impossible it can be to deal with government bureaucracy and corruption. If you still don't like it by the time "Chat Chat Chat" rolls around feel free to drop out, but there's some things in your post that make me think you'd like SAC once it gets going.
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I really enjoyed SAC back when I watched it, I'm not knocking it. The dude is just asking about a certain subgenre of a thing and was almost told he wasn't good enough. Bah. I didn't think I needed to delve into pedantry. Of course transhumanism is science fiction, he just said he wanted another kind of it, one that was less fantastical. But even then, maybe he just needs more exposure to SAC. I wasn't responding to his initial dislike of SAC or even to SAC in general, more to the comment of his thinking being 'inside the box', which seemed stupid. DrSunshine posted:Where can I find this show? It sounds... intriguing.  
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Apr 18, 2014 17:33
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Mercrom posted:I think the fantastical should be an exaggerated version of something that exists, to provoke thought about real issues. The point of fiction isn't always to serve as a structured analogue of reality. GitS isn't trying to make a political statement or sell a message. All it's doing is asking a simple question: If the world were like this, what would happen? GitS is an exploration of ideas like cybernetic transhumanism and the boundary between weak and strong AI within the context of a mildly dystopian near-future setting. If that doesn't interest you, GitS isn't for you.
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Hi, I'd like some ridiculously over the top anime. I'm thinking things like Code Geass' poses (and spinzakus), Death Note's dramatic writing (and potato chip eating), and... well I don't really know any others to mention. I don't mind the genre. If you can find me a shoujo romance where everything is completely overdramatic, that'd be just great, but so would action-y shounen stuff.
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KittyEmpress posted:Hi, I'd like some ridiculously over the top anime. I'm thinking things like Code Geass' poses (and spinzakus), Death Note's dramatic writing (and potato chip eating), and... well I don't really know any others to mention. Try Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.
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Are you watching Jojo's? If not, there's your answer. Also try Sengoku Basara for feudal Japanese warlords riding horses equipped with handlebars and exhaust pipes while shouting about parties and guns in English. Gurren Lagann is what happens when your over-the-topness function is an exponential, and Valvrave is the result of Sunrise being dared to make something more insane than Code Geass. For a different kind of over-the-topness, I have a soft spot for anime that are pretty terrible but turn the sheer animeness up to 11 (these tend to be light novel adaptations). It's kind of hard to describe, but imagine the kind of show that takes terrible anime cliches and contrived harem situations and makes them even more contrived and ridiculous. If you might be interested in that, give Henneko ("The Hentai Prince and the Stony Cat") and Noucome ("My Mental Choices Are Completely Interfering With My School Romantic Comedy") a shot. Both of these are completely awful, but there's a certain value in seeing just how much they push the envelope of being anime. Outer Science fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Apr 19, 2014 |
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On top of all ^those^, there's also Redline which we were talking about before. Also, pretty much anything directed by Hiroyuki Imaishi is suitably ridiculous.
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KittyEmpress posted:Hi, I'd like some ridiculously over the top anime. I'm thinking things like Code Geass' poses (and spinzakus), Death Note's dramatic writing (and potato chip eating), and... well I don't really know any others to mention. The thing that got me into Death Note was the fuckin' dramatic music while he was sneaking writing names in the notebook while pretending to eat from a bag of potato chips. I saw that clip, decided to watch the first few episodes, and have loved it. You can't go wrong with One Piece or Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood. They're pretty much always over the top. Even the Original FMA was really good. FLCL is pretty much down with what you're describing. It's pretty kinetic. Black Lagoon, too. Maybe Kill La Kill, but while it was certainly over the top and not bad per se, I didn't much enjoy it. edit: The ultimate over the top tv show is, of course, Nichijou.      Drifter fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Apr 19, 2014 |
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KittyEmpress posted:I don't mind the genre. If you can find me a shoujo romance where everything is completely overdramatic, that'd be just great, but so would action-y shounen stuff. Chihayafuru https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EMUlvhsS0s
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jonjonaug posted:GITS can get pretty "unrealistic" if you're looking for hard sci-fi, I suppose, but I'd advise you to hang on until the Laughing Man arc gets off the ground. I might revisit it some day but from what others wrote about it it doesn't seem like it's for me.
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Mercrom posted:It's got nothing to do with hard sci-fi. In the first two episodes the only thing that seemed really implausible was the major's outfit. I generally don't like fiction that focuses primarily on science and technology. I have non-fiction for that, like Cosmos. Yeah if you don't like sci fi, one of the hallmark shows for speculative and science fiction is not gonna do it for you.
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SO I've been trying to find an anime like One Piece or Soul Eater, which are awesome and have a great balance of comedy among the cool characters and adventures. (I've already seen FMA - loved the vanilla and Brotherhood) I've started Hunter X Hunter and it's pretty fun, but it's not particularly 'funny' like OP or SE. I've tried Gintama (which I know isn't a shounen) and was absolutely bored and uninterested in it. I've tried shows like Toriko and thought it was alright. Naruto was fun but I have no interest in going back to where I left off many many years ago. Any good comedy and action shows out there, that have grand adventures and charming characters or is One Piece just a one-off work of stupid genius?
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You really need to watch Tiger and Bunny.
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Drifter posted:Any good comedy and action shows out there, that have grand adventures and charming characters I'd probably try Fairy Tail, Magi, and Index/Railgun.
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Okay, poo poo. I really enjoyed Tiger & Bunny and Scientific Railgun, and also enjoyed to a lesser extent Magi. I will say Magi had a really interesting premise but I found Aladdin to be somewhat annoying - it was a solid 75-80 out of 100. Pretty darn solid. I've heard Fairy Tail is basically a OP clone. I'll check out an episode or two, thanks for that - I'd forgotten to consider it. Any other suggestions?
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You seem like you're way more familiar with shounen than I am  I guess you could try some old-school stuff like Yu Yu Hakusho or Inuyasha.
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Fairy Tail's artstyle started out as an OP clone, but it's significantly lower quality in every other aspect, or so I've heard. I don't really want to read it. I would suggest the manga of Zatch Bell. It's hard to think of another series that follows shonen tropes to the letter as much as it does, but man, it is a wonderful ride regardless, and the humor is pretty fantastic when they're not in do-or-die battle mode. Hell, there's parts where the battles turn into comedy sketches, such as the Victoreem fight which was so well-received for a one-off bad guy that they got Norio Wakamoto to voice him in the anime and sing the Very Melon song. It's pretty good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3b8FBtvJAc The anime has pretty dodgy animation at times, not that the manga has the best artwork ever either, but it's absolutely a fun read. I'd say skip the anime because it doesn't follow the full series, it ends like halfway through. The entire thing is based on a tournament arc, 100 demons with 100 book-bearers in the real world and whoever is the last one standing becomes the Demon Realm King, so it creates interesting politics among the demons. Work together only to have to betray each other later, backstab everyone immediately, crush all opposition with overwhelming force, hide until the end, etc. The character designs are also pretty great, and the artist absolutely loves his two-page spread ultimate attacks. The series is also finished! It was licensed in the US by Viz or someone, but they stopped releasing it and now it's stuck in limbo. Based on your request, I would also suggest Donyatsu, left without comment. Just trust me. Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Apr 21, 2014 |
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Try Outlaw Star if you're up for some 90's sci-fi space adventures.
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Ooh, Outlaw Star looks really interesting and Zatch Bell looks like something I need to check out at least a part of. Do~nyan~tsu ( ) scares me.  Am I the only person who doesn't like Gintama? I mean, I watched maybe 10 or 15 episodes and felt like it was a big bleh. Drifter fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Apr 21, 2014 |
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Gintama's a weird slow burn. It's starts out okay, and then at some point you just find everything hilarious, with sudden emotional arcs that occur every now and then. I think once you get invested in each particular character's quirks, putting them in these silly scenarios leads to amazing comedy. Like my favorite episodes are the one where they're having hot pot, and the one where they're camping out for a Wii. And similar to One Piece, the arcs that are serious feel a lot more serious due to how silly the setting usually is. Basically at some point, the comedy and writing improves a lot, though I can't really place where. I'm tempted to say when Takasugi's group first shows up, but it probably differs from person to person.
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Drifter posted:SO I've been trying to find an anime like One Piece or Soul Eater, which are awesome and have a great balance of comedy among the cool characters and adventures. (I've already seen FMA - loved the vanilla and Brotherhood) Houshin Engi is a shounen series with a pretty sweeping/epic/fun adventure, though weirdly enough it may be a bit too grandiose compared to OP or Soul Eater. It's more seinen than shounen, but Satoshi Mizukami may scratch your itch as well. Even if it's not exactly what you're looking for, give his stuff a try anyway because they own.
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Nate RFB posted:I'm pretty sure Gintama is shounen, actually. I mean it's published in WSJ.
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Captain Invictus posted:Fairy Tail's artstyle started out as an OP clone, but it's significantly lower quality in every other aspect, or so I've heard. I don't really want to read it. In terms of the manga, they're weirdly opposite in that Fairy Tail has much more detailed character designs (though the feel of them still evokes One Piece) but nothing for backgrounds while One Piece has pretty basic character designs (for the most part) with crazy detailed backgrounds. The anime smooths Fairy Tail out overall, but the end result for me was very much One Piece-lite. Even the things Fairy Tail did well, that I liked, I found myself comparing unfavorably to One Piece. As for a recommendation for Drifter, have you tried Trigun? It gets more serious towards the second half, but the first stretch is a pretty good mix of comedy and action.
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I find it incredibly funny that when someone from ANN interviewed the creator of Fairy Tail, they later tweeted that they were told that they were not allowed to mention One Piece in any capacity whatsoever, and that the interview would be over if they did.
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Srice posted:I find it incredibly funny that when someone from ANN interviewed the creator of Fairy Tail, they later tweeted that they were told that they were not allowed to mention One Piece in any capacity whatsoever, and that the interview would be over if they did. Also, you must bring with you a live pheasant!
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I am a really big fan of team based fantasy or sci-fi action based things. I really like G Gundam, for example, for having a main character and a bunch of team members that are equally as awesome. I also like Sailor Moon for the same reasons; I'm not a big fan of Usagi, but there are four other characters that are equally awesome, even if they do get less screentime. And the Stardust Crusaders anime is simply awesome. Is there much else like that? I've heard some good things about precure and a look of 'generic kiddy poo poo' but I am not adverse to generic kiddy poo poo.
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Precure's pretty good - it's aimed at kids, not otakus, so it is significantly less creepy than...oh, a good 50% of its genre. There's ten of 'em, and quality varies per series, but that's largely a taste thing. Really, if you're happy to sift by quality, magical girl stuff in general will give you what you want. Lots of friendship/teamwork stuff there. Just, uh, avoid most of the stuff aimed at people over twelve. Let's see...Baccano and Durarara are both good ensemble casts but not really teams. E: Oh man, how did I forget Inazuma Eleven, the show about middle schoolers playing soccer as a team? Really goofy, really magical shounen soccer. Also, Uninhabited Planet Survive, in which a team of kids must survive being stranded on an alien planet. Mors Rattus fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Apr 23, 2014 |
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Okay, I can't take it anymore: I really want to watch or read a harem/romcom anime. Not just any harem/romcom anime, mind you. I want to watch or read a story where:
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Oh, I just saw that you ruled out Monogatari. In that case my advice is don't watch harem anime, it's bad for you.
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Chuunibyou Demo Koi ga Shitai maybe? I don't actually remember how close to the end of the first season the relationship becomes official, but there is a second season (which I haven't seen, mind) so yeah. Better as a comedy than a romance in my opinion, but hey. vvv Ok then. Though I will defend the protagonist as not being particularly bland due to his whole chuunibyou gimmick. Outer Science fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Apr 23, 2014 |
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Relambrien posted:Chuunibyou Demo Koi ga Shitai maybe? I don't actually remember how close to the end of the first season the relationship becomes official, but there is a second season (which I haven't seen, mind) so yeah. Better as a comedy than a romance in my opinion, but hey. Second season is horrible and the main guy is one of the blander one's in recent memory.
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Not harem, just pure romcom, but if you haven't seen it, watch Lovely Complex. I recently rewatched it and it starts out sooo gooood. Loses a little steam in the middle, but it's still good throughout. It's comedy, so they'll still use wacky misunderstandings to comedic effect, but the main character actually confesses before the halfway point of the series, iirc. It also deals with a topic i haven't seen pop up very much in anime: How to deal with your crush not exactly... reciprocating your feelings.
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Wark Say posted:Okay, I can't take it anymore: I really want to watch or read a harem/romcom anime. Nisekoi had a scene in the recent episode where all of the girls involved are informed about the current circumstances and the mystery surrounding it. When was the last time that happened in a rom-com? Also the show is hilarious, albeit very SHAFT-y. I'll second Clannad, which is a very well written romance drama with a side order of comedy. No wacky misunderstandings to speak of.
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Yeah, Clannad is a really good one. Tomoya's a legitimately interesting character and he's probably one of the most developed "harem" protagonists out there.
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It's technically a "reverse harem", but Ouran Host Club is genuinely funny with a great main heroine.
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