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Frosted Flake posted:So is there any optimism about the new fiscal year, or are we looking at another decade of darkness? Well, if we could somehow find a way to be tasked on domestic assistance to the oilsands, I'm sure the budget would expand immeasurably
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This fiscal will be worse then last, but were are not quite at 90s levels yet.
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Lt. Jebus posted:This fiscal will be worse then last, but were are not quite at 90s levels yet. I don't know, I know an airforce warrant and captain that had to stay in base accommodations just the other day.
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Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:I don't know, I know an airforce warrant and captain that had to stay in base accommodations just the other day. On my course I'm on now, two guys are on TD getting paid 10k for 10 weeks. They are only paying 3k in apartment rental for the time, rest is banked. A third guy is staying at base accommodation on full meal plan getting virtually nothing. It's starting to catch up! (I get nothing because I live in the area)
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Hizawk posted:On my course I'm on now, two guys are on TD getting paid 10k for 10 weeks. They are only paying 3k in apartment rental for the time, rest is banked. What the gently caress? How does anyone justify renting an apartment for a 10 week course? TD is only $17 a day! Are they also getting meals paid for too? Even if the guy is on base accommodations he should still be getting TD if he is out of town. Those numbers sound super fishy.
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TD rates are here. After 31 days it drops to a 75% rate. If those guys are getting every meal claimed that's 5 and a half grand over 10 weeks (or ten grand for the two of them so story checks out) The only way commercial lodging should have been authorized is if the barracks were full for the majority of the course, which rarely happens for longer courses as those pers have priority over guys in for a week or less. But if it did happen they are staying over 30 days and thus are entitled to whats called a "extended stay" which is done via a standing offer with Premiere Executive Suites, however all commercial lodging is receipt based (and for an extended stay the member probably never deals with any money) so its not like you can "pocket" any extra money with that.
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Lt. Jebus posted:TD rates are here. After 31 days it drops to a 75% rate. If those guys are getting every meal claimed that's 5 and a half grand over 10 weeks (or ten grand for the two of them so story checks out) Either that or you're air force. Up until this latest round of cutbacks whenever my mom went on a course she had hotels for everything.
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Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:Either that or you're air force. Up until this latest round of cutbacks whenever my mom went on a course she had hotels for everything. That's why I said ~should~. The regulations are forces wide, however ultimately it has more to do with the unit than the element. A unit with a large TD budget and less commitments will likely play loose with the rules then a unit that that has to move a lot of people around the country all the time. I know plenty of Air forces officers working in the NCR that won't see the inside of any hotel on TD unless every single room in the wardroom/officers mess is full.
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One way to make money out of a TD is to drive there(when its possible) instead of flying. I had a course in Truro NE and it cost 1200$ to fly me there and back + Taxi ride from Halifax to Truro. I took my car instead and drove there and they gave me the 1200$.
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half the guys from my PLQ drove from Pet to Gagetown and banked a cool 2 grand for their troubles. Driving across half the country on a redbull binge wooooo
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Somewhat unsure why the thread tag keeps on changing. Has someone hijacked the thread?
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MA-Horus posted:Somewhat unsure why the thread tag keeps on changing. Has someone hijacked the thread? Well we are sending like half our combat air forces to NATO for the whole Ukraine thing so
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Guest2553 posted:Well we are sending like half our combat air forces to NATO for the whole Ukraine thing so I don't think we have 12 total f18s but sure
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NM - I'm an idiot.
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mstrkrft posted:I don't think we have 12 total f18s but sure Twelve working ones sounds about right.
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Pretty sure we're going to have more air defense capabilities in Poland than we are in Canada.
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MA-Horus posted:Pretty sure we're going to have more air defense capabilities in Poland than we are in Canada. The cost of belonging to NATO.
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mstrkrft posted:The cost of belonging to NATO. I feel like +50% of capability may be too high.
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Frosted Flake posted:I feel like +50% of capability may be too high. In the only situations where we'd actually need to use our airforce at home we'd be so cosmically hosed that 50% of capability will be worth just about jack poo poo.
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Jonad posted:In the only situations where we'd actually need to use our airforce at home we'd be so cosmically hosed that 50% of capability will be worth just about jack poo poo. I can't really think of a situation where we'd need to use our CF-18's at home for any sort of combat mission. War with Russia over Canadian territory would be with ICBMs, War with 'Muricah would be over before it started. Therefore they're for force projection, and do a rather lovely job at it. (Or did until the Link-16 upgrades)
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Frosted Flake posted:I feel like +50% of capability may be too high. I think the investment is worth it to be part of NATO. How often are our birds just doing domestic sorties as opposed to actually fighting enemies? Horus is right, I can't think of a situation where we'd be sending our F-18s in a domestic combat mission.
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Mind you I also think NATO is outdated and should be broken up into regional concerns. But according to DnD I'm a big poo poo dummy head for considering that.
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MA-Horus posted:Mind you I also think NATO is outdated and should be broken up into regional concerns. But according to DnD I'm a big poo poo dummy head for considering that. Personally I don't think we should meddle with anybody else's problems unless inaction could come back on us. Why the gently caress should we spend money helping out the people of buttfuckistan when there are issues at home. Isolationism is the best way to go.
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My main issue with sending those planes is that it's the most token of token-ist forces. It's like we need to constantly remind the United States that we have a military, and that we can FORCE PROJECT too. I'm also of the mind-set that if this government had been in power in January 2003, we would have sent troops to Iraq as well. And it would have killed a whole lot of troops, and effectively destroyed the Canadian Military.
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MA-Horus posted:I'm also of the mind-set that if this government had been in power in January 2003, we would have sent troops to Iraq as well. And it would have killed a whole lot of troops, and effectively destroyed the Canadian Military. Yea, I agree with that. We did have attaches over there for a bit though.
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A fair number of RCAF pers were in Iraq but it's not well known, even in military circles. I even know one cool dude that was in both Gulf Wars 
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It really did take a long, long time for it to sink in that our new conservative pro-military government was only going to be so in the most cynical lip-servicey way possible.
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Yeah sometimes it's a bit embarrassing having quantitative discussions with other militaries. At least we did get a few years of plenty in between FRP and FRP 2: electric boogaloo.
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I can only imagine how many guys would have died after we sent Iltis' to Iraq.
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Frosted Flake posted:I can only imagine how many guys would have died after we sent Iltis' to Iraq. Well Marine 1st Recon did ok in their hoopty humvees during the invasion. But the answer is a lot. A lot of dead guys in iltis' (ilti?) Christ you can't uparmor those things whatsoever.
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Isn't there an 'up-armored' iltis in the war museum thats all shot to poo poo and all of the occupants died in the cocksucker?
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It's a companion piece to the "up-armoured" G-Wagon that got blasted to pieces by an IED.
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http://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/esquimalt-sailor-returning-home-dies-in-tanzanian-hospital-1.979909 God-loving-dammit. Nicest guy in the loving world. His daughter and my son go to preschool together.
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Canuck-Errant posted:What about the uparmoured LSVW? The LSVW can't get out of it's own way or stop worth a drat as it is. Adding armor would make it even more useless...which i didn't think was possible. gently caress it. Uparmored MILCOTS.
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The Italian used LSVWs in Iraq. It went about how you'd expect. 
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The Navy has publicly IDed Brandon http://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/navy-identifies-cfb-esquimalt-sailor-who-died-in-tanzania-1.983571 Probably the best attitude I've ever run into. Always, always happy and would do anything for his friends (which is kind of how I hope he went out). I was the first guy to know his girlfriend was pregnant with their first. We used to go to the, uh, club after work on Fridays for pitchers of Coors Light and Jaeger Bombs, the bastard. Jaeger Bombs everywhere... I'm completely shocked at this, he wasn't dumb and this wasn't his first deployment by a long shot.
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Looks like the Cold War isn't quite over yet. Looking forward to dancing in the Med this summer.
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