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DemeaninDemon posted:BAC is easily quantifiable so it's used. Works well enough, too, since 0.08 will hit most people. Need to remember that objectivity makes it easier to enforce which is a great thing. A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:I typically get home on a bicycle. The cops camp outside of bars and try to hit everyone trying to walk home with public intoxication, but there's no way those tubby bastards are going to be able to pursue a BMX.
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"Don't drive home, you'll get a DUI." "Don't walk home, you'll get a Public Intox'." Well now what?
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Apr 19, 2014 06:58
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Captain Trips posted:"Don't drive home, you'll get a DUI." Keep drinking.
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Apr 19, 2014 07:26
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They kick you out eventually though. Life is hard that way.
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Apr 19, 2014 07:33
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A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:I typically get home on a bicycle. The cops camp outside of bars and try to hit everyone trying to walk home with public intoxication, but there's no way those tubby bastards are going to be able to pursue a BMX. I used to do this until the one time I drank to much Guinness and into a goddamn parked bus. I just moved closer to town instead
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Apr 19, 2014 07:43
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I spent my tax refund on four new tires, replacing a cracked motor mount, a new pair of boots, and beer. 
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Apr 19, 2014 08:48
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If you drink and drive you're a terrible person.
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Apr 19, 2014 10:40
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This evening I made both chilli (with beans  ) and bread in an amazing feat of personal co-ordination.Dipped bread in chilli. Ate both. Proceeded to start getting late-autumn whisky drunk for warmth and funsies. Praise the Jesus.
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Apr 19, 2014 11:40
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Captain Trips posted:"Don't drive home, you'll get a DUI." I'm a brit, i lived in the states for 3 years, my ex's brother got a DUI and had to do an AA course as part of the punishment. One of the sessions required him to bring a friend of family member, i went along. There was a cop there telling all sorts of horror stories of driving drunk, then went round the room asking the companion how x person's DUI had affected them. My response was "it hasn't affected me at all, but what i dont get is why it's illegal to walk home drunk, we do it all the time in the UK cos driving drunk takes 5 mins but is 500x more likely to kill someone, so we walk home and at worst injur ourselves falling over" the cop replied "well, yeah, but like, what if you were drunk and like, errr, i dunno... err... fell off a bridge", well pretty sure that would be my fault for being THAT drunk and while it may take some state/city resources to fish my bloated corpse from the river it's still less dangerous to others than driving. And hell, even if you walk home drunk in the states you'll still lose your license in some places cos it's just that drat retarded. It's nothing more than a cash grab. Still, don't drive drunk, it's retarded, as is EVERYONE who goes "i'm just as good a drive when i've had a couple than when i'm sober", no, just no, you really arent.
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Apr 19, 2014 11:41
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Captain Trips posted:"Don't drive home, you'll get a DUI." Get trashed in somebody's apartment. Maybe I'm crazy but in the rare instance I want to get totally tanked I make sure it's at a place where I just curl up and fall asleep like, wherever, you know? Granted, I'm also a "have two or three people over, dispose of a bottle, don't get too wild" type so what do I know. Even so, go somewhere you can plan on staying and then, you know, stay.
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Apr 19, 2014 12:52
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So how does drinking in a pub fit into that plan?
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Apr 19, 2014 12:56
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You know what would be really convenient? If you could like, ring someone and they would come get you and bring you home. I bet they could even make money off it too if that was their job.
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Apr 19, 2014 13:10
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Whoa whoa whoa whoa. You're not allowed to be drunk when you're walking home? That seems crazy to me. What about when you are going from one bar to another? Do you guys just not have pub crawls?
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Apr 19, 2014 13:19
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Taxis cost money and if I'm sober enough to stand up, it's not very cold and there aren't enough people to split the cost then there is no way I am going to get one. Also, to be honest, when I'm at home one of my favourite things about the pub is walking home drunk through the fields and looking at the stars. It's pretty cool.
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Apr 19, 2014 13:20
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redweird posted:Whoa whoa whoa whoa. You're not allowed to be drunk when you're walking home? That seems crazy to me. What about when you are going from one bar to another? Do you guys just not have pub crawls? The laws vary by area but yeah a lot of jurisdictions will slap you with a PI if you walk home. In some places a PI is actually worse than a DUI. In other places the law exists but you only get a PI if you're being belligerent. Pub crawls also don't exist in certain areas. In Pennsylvania, for example, it's illegal to have an open container outside. I forget the exact details but drinking at a backyard barbecue is fine but if you buy a beer in a bar you are not allowed to take it outside by state law. Which, of course, means no "buy drink in place A, wander off, buy new drink in place B when drink is finished." Pub crawling doesn't exist because it takes more planning and beverage timing than drunk people are generally capable of. It's a silly set of laws.
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Apr 19, 2014 14:03
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A pub crawl is more "Buy and drink pint in pub A, walk to pub B, buy and drink pint in pub B, repeat for pubs C-Z as the crawl part becomes more and more literal", which sounds like it would still be illegal.
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Apr 19, 2014 14:26
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ToxicSlurpee posted:The laws vary by area but yeah a lot of jurisdictions will slap you with a PI if you walk home. In some places a PI is actually worse than a DUI. In other places the law exists but you only get a PI if you're being belligerent. Pub crawls also don't exist in certain areas. In Pennsylvania, for example, it's illegal to have an open container outside. I forget the exact details but drinking at a backyard barbecue is fine but if you buy a beer in a bar you are not allowed to take it outside by state law. Which, of course, means no "buy drink in place A, wander off, buy new drink in place B when drink is finished." Pub crawling doesn't exist because it takes more planning and beverage timing than drunk people are generally capable of. Where I live you'll only get PI for being belligerent, but we have the open container law. Specifically, you're allowed to have open containers on private property (subject to the discretion of the owner of that property) but once you're on government land you can get a 452 for it. We do do pub crawls, we just finish our drinks before we move on and usually only end up going to 3-4 pubs. And the word "pub" is applied liberally. I've sat on someone's front lawn with a beer in my hand while cops broke up the party at that house, but I've also seen people step on to the sidewalk and get fined or have to pour out most of a case of beer because the box was open and they were walking somewhere. Also we can get a DUI if there's any alcohol (even sealed containers) in the cab of the car, it's gotta be in the trunk.
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Apr 19, 2014 14:47
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We have open container laws (in Australia). You can't have beers in public, but that rule is kind of loosely enforced. I've partied in parks drinking beers and the cops don't care as long as you are not a total fuckhead. I think if you are having a barbeque they are way less likely to come down on you. You also can't drink beers in cars, but you can obviously have unopened cans of stuff in your car or on the street and you won't get busted. There is some weird liquor licensing stuff though. Some bars you can't take a beer with you to sit outside, you have to buy it inside and then a waitperson takes it across the two meter threshold to the outside drinking area.
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Apr 19, 2014 16:24
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you may die posted:I've sat on someone's front lawn with a beer in my hand while cops broke up the party at that house, but I've also seen people step on to the sidewalk and get fined or have to pour out most of a case of beer because the box was open and they were walking somewhere. Also we can get a DUI if there's any alcohol (even sealed containers) in the cab of the car, it's gotta be in the trunk.
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Apr 19, 2014 16:32
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Always take a cab because you're 8 times as likely per mile traveled to be injured or killed while walking drunk than driving drunk. Straker posted:My first thought was that if it's any good, it'll immediately be coopted for benzo/alcohol overdoses like naloxone and opioids and will have a ton of research and experience supporting it in no time at all, unless I've misread what this thing does. Shannonmcn posted:If you drink and drive you're a terrible person. M.Ciaster posted:What the gently caress? That's the most asinine law I've ever heard of.
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Apr 19, 2014 16:56
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Straker posted:Yeah, I tried to gently allude to it without sounding too gbs kill all cops, but not going by BAC at all would give cops way too much leeway to totally ruin anybody's life for no reason. You could arrest people, hang out with them for a few hours, who cares if they're sober when they get back to the station because you can extrapolate that back to like .16 BAC if you pulled them over 4 hours ago, thanks MADD! Here in Texas they dont even give you a breathalyzer till you are arrested. By then it doesnt even matter if you blow a .00 they will not let you go. In Austin there is a guy being prosecuted even after blowing a .00 and taking a drug test proving he wasnt on anything at all. If you drink at all dont drive, you can not "feel" your BAC. If you drink a lot buy a breathalyzer because even after sleeping 8 hours you can still have a BAC and being under .08 doesnt mean you wont get arrested. edit: GWBBQ posted:Most alcohol-related laws make no sense whatsoever. In CT, they lowered BAC for driving to .08 but didn't look for other instances of that limit. The limit to carry a gun with a carry permit is still .10, so you can legally be too drunk to drive but not too drunk to carry a gun. We also recently legalized sale of alcohol on Sunday, but only from 10 to 5. Texas doesnt have a legal limit for carrying, it is up to the officer's discretion. JEEVES420 has a new favorite as of 17:52 on Apr 19, 2014 |
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Apr 19, 2014 17:47
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XMNN posted:Taxis cost money and if I'm sober enough to stand up, it's not very cold and there aren't enough people to split the cost then there is no way I am going to get one. It's all a ploy by Big Taxi to steal your hard-earned beer money.
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Apr 19, 2014 17:55
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Basically, be a hermit goon to avoid being arrested for bullshit alcohol laws. I go to a bar 2-3 times per year. That's it. I drink in restaurants more often, but cops aren't hiding in the bushes there waiting to make an arrest like outside the bars. A couple months ago, I went out because a friend begged me to. We had to walk 30 minutes from one bar to another, and I was terrified the whole time that I'd get a PI, even though I was acting like An Adult. All the others in my group were walking arm-in-arm, making it look like they couldn't stand on their own. Then on the way home, the cab had to pull over on a main road so that my friend could puke out the side. That's when the driver informed us that cops love to pull over cabs and give PIs. gently caress that, I'll just stay in for the majority of weekends. Any alcohol-related arrest would legitimately gently caress me. I will be a full-fledged RN in a couple months. It's just not worth it. My town, too, just started selling alcohol in stores on Sundays a few months back. We were only about 30 years behind on that one. Christ.
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Apr 19, 2014 18:01
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whatshesaid posted:That's when the driver informed us that cops love to pull over cabs and give PIs. What the gently caress. I thought our wonderful politicians were bad for not updating Easter pub opening hours, but this poo poo is completely Fyffes.
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Apr 19, 2014 18:20
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If I'm going out to eat with friends and I have to drive, I'll have one beer when we first arrive before ordering food, and then that's it. If it's quick food and we're not going to hang around for at least an hour, I don't drink anything. It's just not worth it. I'd lose my job instantly, loving myself out of a fantastic career. Just not worth it at all. I didn't know about the PI stuff, that's just terrifying. I was already blown away by the physical control bullshit where you still essentially get a DUI if you try and sleep it off in your car.
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Apr 19, 2014 18:23
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DemeaninDemon posted:It's all a ploy by Big Taxi to steal your hard-earned beer money. Aha, I'm not entirely opposed to the idea of taxis but when it's a choice between walking for half an hour or spending £5, I know what I'm going to do. As a bonus, you can walk past the chippy and spend the money you just saved on delicious kebab. Just try to eat it all before you pass out because for some reason it's nowhere near as appetising in the morning. Full disclosure, when I was 18 I managed to rip my hands open pretty spectacularly after I decided that running home was going to be much faster than walking. I learnt my lesson and haven't done that since, though.
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Apr 19, 2014 18:28
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I'll just say that our local alcohol laws - all "no open containers in public places, anything above 4.7% in government-owned liquor stores only, no alcohol in stores after 8 (weekdays) / 4 (saturday), sitting drunk (0.02 BAC) in a driver's seat is an offense" of it - suddenly seem fairly benign.  (And the open container law is explicitly not enforced in parks in Oslo; the cops have said they have better things to do.)
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Apr 19, 2014 18:33
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dregan posted:What the gently caress.
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Apr 19, 2014 18:33
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Columbus Ohio is weird with booze laws. Open Container is strictly enforced at Ohio State football, but not Columbus Crew soccer games. Both venues are on public property, too. Crew Stadium is owned by the team, but built on the State Fairgrounds.
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Apr 19, 2014 18:43
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Now all I can think about is kebab shops. It's pretty disappointing the limited range of food you can buy when you're wandering around drunk at 2am round here, it's mostly just kebabs, burgers and really bad pizza. I just want one late night burrito shop or something. I'd bet you could make a killing.
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Apr 19, 2014 18:43
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XMNN posted:Now all I can think about is kebab shops. It's pretty disappointing the limited range of food you can buy when you're wandering around drunk at 2am round here, it's mostly just kebabs, burgers and really bad pizza. I just want one late night burrito shop or something. I'd bet you could make a killing. No Jimmy John's? Subs after closing time owns. There's place here that will deliver cookies and brownies until 4am, too.
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Apr 19, 2014 18:46
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The PA law for public drinking is so easily circumvented it's silly. Put a coozy on your drink, put your drink into something other than a beer can or whatever. If a cop asks you are allowed to not reply or say "my drink officer." Be an adult. While Public Intox laws are harsh, police are still not mind readers. Don't be belligerent or fall down drunk. Be an adult. DUI laws suck. Be an adult, call a cab if you've had too much. Holy crap, life in America, Be an adult. Oh my god it's so difficult, like I don't know if I can stand it. People want me to be responsible and junk. It's so terrible.
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Apr 19, 2014 18:54
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GWBBQ posted:There were a couple of instances in the past few years of police in Texas used PI laws as an excuse to raid gay bars. They literally arrested people drinking in bars for being drunk in public. Officers discretion for PIs. There is no legal limit for PIs so if you had one beer and a cop wanted to he could take you in for a PI; although they usually wont unless you are acting a fool. In Texas a PI is usually just a night in the drunk tank and a class C misdemeanor. Also here you wont get a PI in a taxi or as a passenger unless you get out of the vehicle. Which becomes a huge catch 22 when the officer asks you to get out.
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Apr 19, 2014 18:55
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VendaGoat posted:
So you're saying that being an adult consists of knowing how to get away with breaking the law. Got it. (Honestly, that's a law that needs changing, not something to be proud of having found a way to get around.)
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Apr 19, 2014 18:58
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Computer viking posted:So you're saying that being an adult consists of knowing how to get away with breaking the law. Got it. *Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaart*
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Apr 19, 2014 19:03
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GWBBQ posted:Most alcohol-related laws make no sense whatsoever. In CT, they lowered BAC for driving to .08 but didn't look for other instances of that limit. The limit to carry a gun with a carry permit is still .10, so you can legally be too drunk to drive but not too drunk to carry a gun. We also recently legalized sale of alcohol on Sunday, but only from 10 to 5. God I'm so happy to live in Europe. The legal BAC limit might be .02, but I can just pop over to a supermarket and grab a case of whatever no matter the day or the hour, as long as I'm not stumbling-around-pukingly drunk, and there's no restrictions on drinking in public at all (but since cops are assholes they'll write you up for that anyway).
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Apr 19, 2014 19:16
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GWBBQ posted:There were a couple of instances in the past few years of police in Texas used PI laws as an excuse to raid gay bars. They literally arrested people drinking in bars for being drunk in public. Even better, they did it on the 40th anniversary of the Stonewall protests supporting gay rights, and it was riot cops kicking in the door to the bar and beating the poo poo out of people, not just regular cops walking in and handing out citations. They even asked some of the women in the bar if they were straight, so they could leave rather than be assaulted and arrested.
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VendaGoat posted:Be an adult. Basically, this. If you know you can't go out without drinking too much so as to not draw attention to yourself, don't go out. It took me a few years to get to where I can go out and get good and hammered but still be able to compose myself. It's fun to be stupid drunk, but no one wants to be that girl. I used to be that girl. One St. Patrick's Day, I fell down the stairs at a bar and was sitting outside because I'd been kicked out, and a cop drove by and asked me if I was alright. Yeah...I was lucky in my early 20s. If you're a guy and you've had more than 2 beers, you can't drive. Period. Yeah, that's my arbitrary limit. I don't drive after one beer, because I have the foresight to figure poo poo out before I start drinking. That's what adults do. Glad y'all reminded me, stores might be closed tomorrow so I need to make a liquor store run. :iamafag:
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whatshesaid posted:Glad y'all reminded me, stores might be closed tomorrow so I need to make a liquor store run. :iamafag: A good Bachelor.
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VendaGoat posted:DUI laws suck. Be an adult, call a cab if you've had too much.
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