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Unlucky7 posted:I don't think that DW8 storytelling is that bad, but I would tell anyone who is unfamiliar with the Three Kingdoms to play 7 first as it has a lot more context and some surprisingly good moments. Also make sure you watch the opening cinematic for the slow-motion closeup of Zhao Yun kicking Xu Huang's horse in the face. Actually, watch the whole thing. Imagine how much better things would have been if Liu Shan and Bao Sanniang had died in that waterfall.
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Bloodly posted:The fuckery that was the DW4 Nanman Campaign couldn't and wouldn't happen as the game is today(I sound like I'm talking about an MMO...that's overly funny, really, given what happened with Online). It's a good thing...mostly. Ahaha, holy poo poo if that wasn't an unbelievable slog. Do everything right and still win by the skin of your teeth with barely any time left. I don't even remember what you unlocked by beating Meng Huo all eight times but it must've been worth it, it must've surely 
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RentACop posted:Ahaha, holy poo poo if that wasn't an unbelievable slog. Do everything right and still win by the skin of your teeth with barely any time left. I don't even remember what you unlocked by beating Meng Huo all eight times but it must've been worth it, it must've surely You've spent an hour on this mission and survived the poison water and climate fatigue and all the other cheap bullshit. Now all you need to do is beat Meng Huo for the last time! *steps into base, gets chain-trampled by elephants for twenty seconds*
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Apr 19, 2014 01:49
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Selane posted:You've spent an hour on this mission and survived the poison water and climate fatigue and all the other cheap bullshit. Now all you need to do is beat Meng Huo for the last time! game owned so hard
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Apr 19, 2014 03:07
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So I just bought Dynasty Warriors 8 XL and it's downloading. I haven't played the original 8, and I'm confused by how this "standalone expansion" works. Am I only getting the new expansion content and I can't play through the old DW8 stuff?
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Apr 19, 2014 03:58
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Pretty much, yeah. I think there's a chart a couple pages back that shows what you get access to.
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RentACop posted:Ahaha, holy poo poo if that wasn't an unbelievable slog. Do everything right and still win by the skin of your teeth with barely any time left. I don't even remember what you unlocked by beating Meng Huo all eight times but it must've been worth it, it must've surely And by this time your allies are actually earning earning 300, 400 or more kills because that was what was required to survive-getting your morale under control(Usually via objectives) that they could do so and become somewhat self-sustaining. This in a game where you usually earned maybe 50-200 kills yourself and getting 1000 was such an effort that doing it effectively auto-won the map by setting the entire ally force into max-morale super-mode. It's a bad time. But also oddly memorable. You always remember the bad times more than the good. ...I still miss bodyguards. Bloodly fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Apr 19, 2014 |
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Apr 19, 2014 04:04
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Nanman campaign was the best. I miss it being this harsh, unforgiving stage that is full of absolute bullshit
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kirbysuperstar posted:Pretty much, yeah. Huh. Kind of wish I had known that before buying it. Oh well.
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Apr 19, 2014 04:18
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Selane posted:You've spent an hour on this mission and survived the poison water and climate fatigue and all the other cheap bullshit. Now all you need to do is beat Meng Huo for the last time! I remember that awful feeling when I whiffed the arrow shot to dismount him and that first person view of the elephant just getting bigger and bigger Bloodly posted:And by this time your allies are actually earning earning 300, 400 or more kills because that was what was required to survive-getting your morale under control(Usually via objectives) that they could do so and become somewhat self-sustaining. This in a game where you usually earned maybe 50-200 kills yourself and getting 1000 was such an effort that doing it effectively auto-won the map by setting the entire ally force into max-morale super-mode. Definitely. I think the series has largely improved gameplay wise as time has gone on but I do also miss how the older levels were generally larger, longer and less tightly scripted than the new games, helps with it feeling like a 'real' battle more. Orochi games are still good for that though
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... Wouldn't you have been tossed into a duel each time he showed up the first time though? I remember that every time you saw a general the first time you were given a 60 second (or something) duel to take him down for double weapon xp. ... why do I remember this?
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Apr 19, 2014 04:29
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Selane posted:Also make sure you watch the opening cinematic for the slow-motion closeup of Zhao Yun kicking Xu Huang's horse in the face. Actually, watch the whole thing.
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Calax posted:... Wouldn't you have been tossed into a duel each time he showed up the first time though? I remember that every time you saw a general the first time you were given a 60 second (or something) duel to take him down for double weapon xp. Dueling was a mess. You leveled up and people in general would more and more often challenge you to a duel. You win, you kill the guy, get a morale up. You lose, you die. You refuse, take a morale loss. You time out, what happened was based on your rank/level. Lower ranks get a morale increase, mid-range get nothing, high ranks lost morale. And duels were deadly thanks to the counter system that everyone had(Attack while blocking. Someone hits you during the animation, invincible extra-strength counter) and grab specials. If people were super-powered, that carried over. Oh yes, and in-battle saves weren't as useful as today. Then you remember that even little troops were blocking and doing charges and were tougher in general....the game's changed a lot. Bloodly fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Apr 19, 2014 |
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Apr 19, 2014 04:44
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AzureRequiem posted:Huh. Kind of wish I had known that before buying it. Oh well. Then you should have asked here or put forth even a little bit of effort in figuring out what you were buying  Now buy DW8 and enjoy a great game
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how does online work in dw8? Is it a separate set of missions for online or is it like co-op where 2p joins in on your mission? Can I progress in the story and farm up harder content with online?
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Apr 19, 2014 09:49
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Fauxtool posted:how does online work in dw8? Is it a separate set of missions for online or is it like co-op where 2p joins in on your mission? It's co-op. You can play any of the levels, in story or free mode. You just pick Online, set everything up like usual, then wait forever for someone to join...then just switch back to Offline. They really need to add drop-in, drop-out online play or use the 7E system of ghost data. There's no edit mode in DW8 or 8XL, but it'd be cool if your leveled up officers could populate a friend's game and vice versa.
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Apr 19, 2014 10:17
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Games › Dynasty/Samurai/Anime Warriors: They really need to...
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I just finished ambition mode and I got a weapon with the skill battleaxe. Once you kill 50 people attack doubles. Does that stay on permanently? Or is it on the 30 second timer where I have to keep killing dudes to keep it up?
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These things are never permanent. It's just 'you get the effect of the ATKx2 powerup after 50 kills'.
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I've been out of the Warriors series for the longest time, I think the last I actually played was the original Samurai Warriors which I loved, but since Samurai Warriors seems to be largely relegated to only Japan for now, I'm trying to decide between picking up DW8 or Warriors Orochi 3. So.. anything to really sell me one way or the other? 
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Samurai Warriors 4 is coming out in the West some time this year, I don't think they've given a date yet though.
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Oh? Well that's pretty great to hear! Hopefully they don't drag it out too long though, I'd love to give one of those a whirl again.
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Yardbomb posted:Oh? Well that's pretty great to hear! Hopefully they don't drag it out too long though, I'd love to give one of those a whirl again. If you have a 3DS and want to get a preview, Samurai Warriors Chronicles is the best version of SW3 and also is more similar to how SW4 is going to play. Failing that, I'd suggest buying DW7 or 8 before Orochi 3, since the Orochi series is far easier to get into if you actually have some idea of the characters beforehand. http://www.siliconera.com/2014/03/19/handy-chart-everything-thats-dynasty-warriors-8-xtreme-legends/ vv Here it is. Karasu Tengu fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Apr 19, 2014 |
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kirbysuperstar posted:Pretty much, yeah. Someone mind posting this? Can't find it.
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UberJumper posted:Thanks those tips were super helpful. Is it just me or does the story have a bunch of gaps? Like one minute its "we need to save the emperor" the next minute we are escaping with him. Etc. The story IS gappy. I think most folks that are die-hard veterans of the series are reconciled to them butchering the original tale pretty badly. If you are genuinely interested in the story at all, I recommend hitting youtube for subtitled episodes of 'Three Kingdoms 2010.'
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5er posted:If you are genuinely interested in the story at all, I recommend hitting youtube for subtitled episodes of 'Three Kingdoms 2010.' This show is all kinds of great and I'd recommend it to anyone with even a passing interest. 
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Always impressed by how they managed to get unobtrusive and useful touch controls right in SW Chronicles then hosed it up completely for DW Next.
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So the 3DS SW game is actually good? It kind of fell off my radar.
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RichterIX posted:So the 3DS SW game is actually good? It kind of fell off my radar. SW Chronicles is good.
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It's pretty good, so much so that they're using one of its main mechanics for SW 4. Basically you control two different characters who can individually be sent off to do their own thing and you swap between them using the touch pad, which means there's a lot less of the 'there's an event happening on the other side of the map, good luck getting there in time if you didn't already know it was going to happen' thing that the earlier games had.
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RichterIX posted:So the 3DS SW game is actually good? It kind of fell off my radar. I'm wondering this too. The only SW game I played was the first one, and I hated the constantly recycling inner castle areas and felt that the customization system was entirely pointless (IIRC, it was the first Warriors game to feature elemental affinities and such?). So if I wanted to play a new SW right now, should I get 2 for 360 or the one for 3DS? I could do with a handheld version, but the focus on player created characters in these games always bothered me, so I don't know.
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Yardbomb posted:This show is all kinds of great and I'd recommend it to anyone with even a passing interest. Seriously though, absolutely watch the show; for all its own liberties with the story it's still more faithful to the novel than DW7 was, much less 8, and although its scope is much more traditional -- I don't recall Nanzhong even being mentioned, while the penultimate episode is "Zhuge Liang's death" and the final episode is "Sima Yi's Death", and Wu is brushed off to the side after Yiling -- it's also more even-handed than both the traditional lore and DW (for which 7 and 8 buried Shu hard) in treating all the three relatively even-handedly. In particular Wu gets a lot of screentime, way moreso visibility than in popular lore, and personally I find its treatment of the family dynamic of the Sun clan a lot less "animu tropes" than DW's. (Oh, and its Lu Su is a walking, talking, gigantic gently caress YOU to the traditional depiction.)
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Picked up DW8 along with a few other games the other day. This is the first Dynasty Warriors game I've actually owned. gently caress Lu Bu.
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Hakkesshu posted:I'm wondering this too. The only SW game I played was the first one, and I hated the constantly recycling inner castle areas and felt that the customization system was entirely pointless (IIRC, it was the first Warriors game to feature elemental affinities and such?). Guess you might want to skip Chronicles then, since it makes you play through the story missions with your original character first time through, though it's them plus up to three historical characters per mission. 2 is a decent game but the 360 version suffers from basically being a PS2 game with better textures, like all early last-gen Warriors games.
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Moonshine Rhyme posted:Someone mind posting this? Can't find it. Policenaut posted:Dynasty Warriors 8: Xtreme Legends Complete Edition content chart and PS4 version trailer
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Sakurazuka posted:Guess you might want to skip Chronicles then, since it makes you play through the story missions with your original character first time through, though it's them plus up to three historical characters per mission. 2 is a decent game but the 360 version suffers from basically being a PS2 game with better textures, like all early last-gen Warriors games. Well, I ain't buying a Warriors game for the graphics, so that's not a problem. Just wondering if 2 holds up at all. What about the expansions?
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What's the best version of DW7 to pick up, Empires?
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Hakkesshu posted:Well, I ain't buying a Warriors game for the graphics, so that's not a problem. Just wondering if 2 holds up at all. What about the expansions? It's still a good game. As for expansions, I haven't played SW 2 Empires much but a lot of people say it's thier favourite version of the Empires spin-off's and Extreme Legends just adds the usual extra characters, weapons etc, though the 360 version is DLC only and has never had its price revised so it's actually way more expensive than you can get the base game for now.
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Yardbomb posted:What's the best version of DW7 to pick up, Empires? Depends on what you want. If you want a real story get the base DW7 game, and if you want to keep playing with your characters on new maps and such get the XL expansion afterwards. If you just want to goof around and conquer with your own empire (but no story) get Empires. It is hard to say which is "best" because the games have a totally different focus. edit: the DW7 telling of the story is probably my favorite of the whole series, so I would highly suggest playing it.
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So I decided to go ahead and pick up DW8 alongside XL. Is there anything I should know besides punch mans?
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