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TinTower posted:The Daily Mail: the rat's anus of journalism. This is what I thought of aswell. I've never used a food Bank, even when I was desperate. Partly out of pride, partly out of the fact that there might be people out there who need it more than I do. Thankfully I had family to fall back on, but there are people who don't have any support at all and that food parcel might literally be a matter of life or death. That guy is a complete cock and I wish nothing but the worst for him. gently caress him and gently caress anyone who finds even the hint of worth in anything he does.
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In other news that's also awful, potential rapist to grill victim because he can't afford legal representation. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/woman-grilled-court-alleged-rapist-3434274 quote:A woman is to be grilled in court by her alleged rapist after he was refused legal aid because of Government cuts. There we go. New Evil. You thought it couldn't be done in 2014 but we've found new ways to be evil.
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Apr 20, 2014 18:30
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My parents are literally in this room right now saying "there was this women on the telly who went to a food bank but she had a sky satellite dish"
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Apr 20, 2014 18:31
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KKKlean Energy posted:My parents are literally in this room right now saying "there was this women on the telly who went to a food bank but she had a sky satellite dish" I have a Sky satellite dish. It's not connected to anything. Even if it were, it's entirely possible to have an active Sky subscription that you signed up for when you were actually solvent.
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Apr 20, 2014 18:38
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Besides, you can still use the dish even if you haven't got a Sky subscription; it's called Freesat.
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Apr 20, 2014 18:41
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This thread constantly avoids the Islamist plotting in Britain. Wake up and start dealing with these people. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/10776607/Islamist-plot-six-schools-face-Ofsted-special-measures.html
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Apr 20, 2014 18:43
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^^^ If islamic sleeper cells can do better than the current rulers, I say give 'em a shot. It seems inescapable to me that government and media are brainwashing people into thinking that people on hard times deserve nothing more than the workhouse experience. Everyone needs to live within their means, but what about people that live on credit, to the point where they go bankrupt (like thatpoor Nick Griffin)? What is the difference between someone working who has x credit cards maxed out to someone on the dole who has a sky subscription?
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Nonsense posted:This thread constantly avoids the Islamist plotting in Britain. Wake up and start dealing with these people. Operation Trojan Horse. People actually believe this isnt some far right false flag shite?
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Apr 20, 2014 19:21
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Now come on, some good old fashioned Mccarthyism is just what this country needs. Those reds.. Er, Muslims are loving everywhere. Surely this time it won't be a complete fabrication that will result in thousands of lives ruined. I hear some of them are even involved in Satanic rituals!
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Apr 20, 2014 19:29
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Serotonin posted:Operation Trojan Horse. I've no doubt that it is being overblown and played for politics, but there does seem to have been some stuff going on which really shouldn't have a place in the school system. 
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Really? It's the exact same shite as Christians claiming that music is sinful. It obviously has no place on schools, especially secular schools, but it's not limited to Muslim beliefs.
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Apr 20, 2014 19:36
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Serotonin posted:Operation Trojan Horse. It sounds like Ofsted are taking it a bit more seriously than you so, yes? No religious group should be subverting the leadership of schools and putting in place their own curriculum that supports their own dogma.
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Apr 20, 2014 19:44
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Pissflaps posted:
Agreed. Ban CofE schools too.
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Apr 20, 2014 19:52
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Serotonin posted:Agreed. Ban CofE schools too. I think there's a place for Anglican, Romanic Catholic or Muslim schools - but that doesn't mean turning secular state schools into religious enclaves or then pretending it's not happening even when Oftsed put six schools into special measures because of it.
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Apr 20, 2014 19:57
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I know of several Catholic schools nearby, who do I complain to?
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Apr 20, 2014 19:58
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Remove all schools that aren't state funded. Ban private schools.
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Apr 20, 2014 19:59
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The real villains of this peice are the Tories. Their education policies have let this happen.
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Apr 20, 2014 20:00
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Clearly they haven't gone far enough if Muslims can do what they're doing. Gove and his academies are clearly needed.
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twoot posted:I've no doubt that it is being overblown and played for politics, but there does seem to have been some stuff going on which really shouldn't have a place in the school system. Like I've heard about schools that dislike metal, emo, rock, rap or whatever but all music? Is that a common extreme Muslim thing? JoylessJester fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Apr 20, 2014 |
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Ddraig posted:Really? It's the exact same shite as Christians claiming that music is sinful. It obviously has no place on schools, especially secular schools, but it's not limited to Muslim beliefs. I Agree. If a Christian school was doing it I'd find it equally unpleasant.
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Serotonin posted:Agreed. Ban CofE schools too. One of our local C of E schools has this just inside the front door  Yeah, gently caress that. JoylessJester posted:Like I've heard about schools that dislike metal, emo, rock, rap or whatever but all music? Is that a common extreme Muslim thing? It's a common extreme protestant thing too. A lot of fundamentalist religions hate people doing anything but praying and obeying. See also: Oliver Cromwell.
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Apr 20, 2014 20:17
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Pissflaps posted:
And yet the government's free school system is built around this 
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Apr 20, 2014 20:34
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Gonzo McFee posted:Remove all schools that aren't state funded. Ban private schools.
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JoylessJester posted:Like I've heard about schools that dislike metal, emo, rock, rap or whatever but all music? Is that a common extreme Muslim thing? It is definitely A Thing. Last year when I had a team of temps working with me one guy wouldn't sit in the same room as the radio. Went out of his way not to make a fuss about it, though.
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Barry Foster posted:It is definitely A Thing. Last year when I had a team of temps working with me one guy wouldn't sit in the same room as the radio. Went out of his way not to make a fuss about it, though. It was one of the more (in)famous policies of the Taliban in Afghanistan too, and people wondered at the fact that Chinese bootleg CDs managed to be on sale in Kabul before the Coalition troops had even taken control of the airport. As with all religions everywhere it's mainly just a stick to beat people with - it's certainly far from a mainstream view.
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JoylessJester posted:Like I've heard about schools that dislike metal, emo, rock, rap or whatever but all music? Is that a common extreme Muslim thing? Sorta. Music and poetry are definitely haraam, so anyone who takes a literalist interpretation of the qu'ran abides by this. The qu'ran also encourages a literalist interpretation by outright claiming to be a direct work of divine intervention, whereas the bible does not and so every Christian claiming this is doing so with no real basis. My libyan housemate's father believes poetry and music are sinful and would be outraged to find out he listened to any. He was also outraged when he overheard him taking a drink of tea during ramadan on the phone. So I'd say such beliefs are what we'd think of as traditionalist, but Islamic countries tend towards literally interpreting what is and isn't haraam legally before promptly behaving like normal people provided the police of vice and virute aren't around.
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What with alcohol, music, and masturbation/pre-marital sex being haraam, I'm not surprised there're so many nutters out there.
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Spangly A posted:Sorta. Music and poetry are definitely haraam, so anyone who takes a literalist interpretation of the qu'ran abides by this. The qu'ran also encourages a literalist interpretation by outright claiming to be a direct work of divine intervention, whereas the bible does not and so every Christian claiming this is doing so with no real basis. Dude no. Hundreds of years of Fiqh (Islamic Jurisprudence) contradict this. It quite recently that literalist/fundamentalist thought has completely dominated the main discourse. shrike82 posted:What with alcohol, music, and masturbation/pre-marital sex being haraam, I'm not surprised there're so many nutters out there. Really now? Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Apr 20, 2014 |
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Dude no. Fair enough, my experience is mostly first hand rather than based in the history of Islam. What's changed then, that both Islam and Christianity have slowly started to go a bit strange about how everything actually literally happened?
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There's that Jim Jefferies joke, 'You take beer and bacon away from me and I'll fly a plane into a building' So that thought has questionable company!
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Wasn't there an American ammunition company that sold bullets infused with pork?
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shrike82 posted:Wasn't there an American ammunition company that sold bullets infused with pork? The Gurkhas objected to ammunition that you had to bit the end off to load because it was sealed with pig fat, IIRC. This was british made ammunition.
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Trickjaw posted:The Gurkhas objected to ammunition that you had to bit the end off to load because it was sealed with pig fat, IIRC. This was british made ammunition. Wasn't this what caused a riot in British ruled India?
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shrike82 posted:Wasn't there an American ammunition company that sold bullets infused with pork? Yep. http://www.salon.com/2013/06/27/ammunitions_manufacturer_selling_pork_coated_bullets_to_fight_muslims_partner/ "Jihawg" ammo. God thats so perfectly redneck.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Remove all schools that aren't state funded. Ban private schools. Then what will we use as feeder institutions for high office?
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Vitamin P posted:Then what will we use as feeder institutions for high office? Unions.
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Pissflaps posted:Wasn't this what caused a riot in British ruled India? Yeah, I think so, I want to say it caused a seige where the Indians had to kill women and children to get the attention of the Brits, but I'm not too sure. I may be conflating it with something Ottoman.
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Trickjaw posted:Yeah, I think so, I want to say it caused a seige where the Indians had to kill women and children to get the attention of the Brits, but I'm not too sure. I may be conflating it with something Ottoman. It was the Siege of Cawnpore in 1857 but i'm not sure women and children were hacked up for attention.
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Pissflaps posted:It was the Siege of Cawnpore in 1857 but i'm not sure women and children were hacked up for attention. Gracias. Always good to learn together. I blame Mrs Urquhart, my history teacher. I might have been confusing it with the siege of Constantinople.
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Trickjaw posted:Gracias. Always good to learn together. I blame Mrs Urquhart, my history teacher. I might have been confusing it with the siege of Constantinople. Not Istanbul?
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