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Well a lot of the pubs/Warframe.com posters hate Ember because she doesn't have an ability that makes her like 95% resistant to all damage like she used to several major patches ago. Note that her 2, much like Radial Blind, stuns a huge radius of enemies and then makes them take triple damage from all her other abilities. She's not a bad frame by any means. e: Fire Blast can be a bit dorky to use and could benefit from some tweaking though.
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Which is better out of magnus or vasto?
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Apr 21, 2014 18:32
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FirstPersonShitter posted:Which is better out of magnus or vasto? Magnus does mostly impact damage and the vasto does mostly slash damage so they each have their spot in the sun versus different enemy types.
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Apr 21, 2014 18:35
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I like Ash's Ult even if it seems kinda useless in groups. It's stylish as gently caress.
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Apr 21, 2014 18:42
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Thrasophius posted:How is Nyx? I've managed to find all the components but wondering if she's worth the time building. I'm really really enjoying volt because I feel he packs a good punch and has some nice utility for the team with his shield and speed boost. Sure there are better but I enjoy playing him. Her Chaos ability is very good vs missile based units. Her Absorb is great vs melee units. It is a bit of a hustle to max her out, since these two abilities rely on completely different mods. Even with basic modding, I find her an effective warframe that scales really well into high levels, particularly useful in defense and survival runs. Bosses are immune to her mind controlling abilities (mind control, chaos), which is a bit of an issue.
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Apr 21, 2014 18:59
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FirstPersonShitter posted:Which is better out of magnus or vasto? Marelok. Seer (if you do not have the mastery rank). I love cats fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Apr 21, 2014 |
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Apr 21, 2014 19:00
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Oh gawd gently caress the Seer's zoom in  Also the Akvastos are better because dual space revolvers, heeyaw
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Apr 21, 2014 19:09
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Fourthmeal Fanboy posted:Ash is the best frame because he's the only actual space ninja. I wish the game was less about maximizing damage and tanking because the ai is a dumb bullet sponge/massive damage dealer that begs to be stabbed in the eyeball real quick, and more about being tactical, sneaky, ninja because advanced ai and smart level design that demanded planning and strategizing to beat. loving f2p. I swear Warframe was designed by and for Leeroy Jenkins. I love cats fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Apr 21, 2014 |
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Apr 21, 2014 19:09
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Croccers posted:Oh gawd gently caress the Seer's zoom in Now that's a fun gun. Shotgun laser pistols, pew pew.
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Apr 21, 2014 19:23
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Nova's actually the best because you have 1.2 base movespeed and the best teleport in the game. When I play other frames I often look at the far side of the room and wistfully think to myself, "I could be over there right now."
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Apr 21, 2014 19:27
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I love cats posted:I wish the game was less about maximizing damage and tanking because the ai is a dumb bullet sponge/massive damage dealer that begs to be stabbed in the eyeball real quick, and more about being tactical, sneaky, ninja because advanced ai and smart level design that demanded planning and strategizing to beat. loving f2p. That's a game that doesn't really exist outside of a few singleplayer titles and I don't know where you'd begin to convert that to a mass market coop experience. They could do a lot to make it less brainless but don't hold your breath.
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Apr 21, 2014 19:28
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I love cats posted:I wish the game was less about maximizing damage and tanking because the ai is a dumb bullet sponge/massive damage dealer that begs to be stabbed in the eyeball real quick, and more about being tactical, sneaky, ninja because advanced ai and smart level design that demanded planning and strategizing to beat. loving f2p. If you're after a stealthy, planning heavy space ninja game, you should probably give up on Warframe now. DE has painted themselves into a corner on this game and you're never going to get that stealth action you want. There is pretty much a zero percent chance that the game will drift away from being about shooting space men with different kinds of guns, and while recent frame releases have gotten much better, they've got a huge pile of old frames that need work that their community will not let them do. Basically this could be a deeper game, but even if DE were capable of making it so, the vast majority of players don't want it to be. Most of us have just made our peace with that.
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Apr 21, 2014 19:30
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Croccers posted:Also the Akvastos are better because dual space revolvers, heeyaw Seriously, both are really good.
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Apr 21, 2014 19:33
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The Akmagnus have a cooler reload animation so they are better.
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Apr 21, 2014 19:39
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Magnus builds into akmagnus. Akmagnus has the best crit stats of any pistol, and are top tier in terms of status effect application. That in of itself makes akmagnus able to be a top tier pistol despite the base damage not comparing to marelok. All new players should get themselves an akmagnus for general purpose use until they are high enough to get the better pistols.
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Apr 21, 2014 20:18
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chumbler posted:they've got a huge pile of old frames that need work that their community will not let them do. Maybe I just miss being able to stand on top of the ball as Ember during the Phobos bossfight, soaking up bullets and instructing people on how to kill Kril. "You, in the Rhino, stop rubbing your face on him! And you, stop shooting him like that. Yes, you with the Boltor! If you're not seeing numbers, you're wasting bullets. Get behind him and break his cryopack. RHINO, GET YOUR FACE OFF THE PERVERT SHRIMP!"
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Apr 21, 2014 20:22
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RIP Overheat
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Apr 21, 2014 20:51
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Which should I go for out of the supra or the tetra? I have the materials for both, its just only one of them needs a forma.
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Apr 21, 2014 21:31
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FirstPersonShitter posted:Which should I go for out of the supra or the tetra? I have the materials for both, its just only one of them needs a forma. Make both, try both, potato the one you like more. Neither is exactly amazing.
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Apr 21, 2014 21:40
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I love cats posted:Her Chaos ability is very good vs missile based units. I'll start building the components then once I get my hands on some more resources because those greneer jet pack guys that knock you down with missles and keep you there are drat annoying so it'll be nice to have a counter at least.
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Apr 21, 2014 21:43
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FirstPersonShitter posted:Which should I go for out of the supra or the tetra? I have the materials for both, its just only one of them needs a forma. The tetra has a cool reload animation.
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Apr 21, 2014 21:59
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Thrasophius posted:Those greneer jet pack guys that knock you down with missiles and keep you there are drat annoying so it'll be nice to have a counter at least. Just take out your melee weapon and block! I was pretty drat surprised when I tried that and it worked. Seriously though, those guys are dicks and I kill them at first opportunity every time I see them. There any reason to scanning enemies? Got bored sometime last week and have been paparazzinjaing like mad, redoing boss fights and levels to get the rare jerks, freaking stupidly hard to find crawler lobbers.
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Apr 21, 2014 21:59
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Cainer posted:Just take out your melee weapon and block! I was pretty drat surprised when I tried that and it worked. Seriously though, those guys are dicks and I kill them at first opportunity every time I see them. Only if you have a moral objection to reading the wiki.
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Apr 21, 2014 22:02
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Cainer posted:Just take out your melee weapon and block! Block is really really strong. You can block all sorts of ridiculous things like Grineer missiles including their AOE, napalm bursts (not including the burning AOE after the explosion) etc. Another reason to use melee and/or potentially slot some stamina boosting mods.
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Apr 21, 2014 22:11
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FirstPersonShitter posted:Which should I go for out of the supra or the tetra? I have the materials for both, its just only one of them needs a forma. The supra is basically the gorgon except the projectiles are really really slow. So it's bad. The tetra is not amazing but it's pretty usable and goes PLEEUPLEEUPLEEUPLEEU.
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Apr 21, 2014 22:12
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TheRationalRedditor posted:Ain't nothing wrong with that, safe traveling. What's your ingame name?
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Apr 21, 2014 22:34
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Cainer posted:Just take out your melee weapon and block! I was pretty drat surprised when I tried that and it worked. Seriously though, those guys are dicks and I kill them at first opportunity every time I see them. I had no idea you could block that I always assumed you could only block bullets, thanks for the tip. Considering blocks potency is a reflect damage mod worth it?
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Ice Fist posted:Block is really really strong. You can block all sorts of ridiculous things like Grineer missiles including their AOE, napalm bursts (not including the burning AOE after the explosion) etc. Another reason to use melee and/or potentially slot some stamina boosting mods. Last night, with some help from Denzine to confirm (thus making this another One Time Denzine Did A Thing story), I found that Reflection stacks on top of Trinity's Link. It's mostly just funny when a rare high damage enemy like a Ballista or Powerfist owns themselves in the face, but in general it has the same enemy damage vs enemy EHP problem as Shadows, and Link is doing most of the work anyways. I am simultaneously pleased that I thought of something that works and disappointed that it's pretty unimpressive in action. Be nice if melee weapons had inherent and unique damage reflection, block stamina efficiency, and block angle values. This would allow for, say, a shield defaulting to highly efficient wide block coverage but unable to send bullets back. Some weapons may have high reflection but low efficiency or coverage. (Let's be honest: What I really want is to slam bullets back into dudes' faces with twice the force they were originally fired with. Come on. Gun ninjas in space. Stop limiting yourselves, DE.)
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Apr 21, 2014 22:38
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Fish Noise posted:Let's be honest: What I really want is to slam bullets back into dudes' faces with twice the force they were originally fired with. I'm getting pleasant Tron 2.0 flashbacks.
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Apr 21, 2014 22:51
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Word, could someone invite me to the goon clan? My IGN is moribundus_VII
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FirstPersonShitter posted:Word, could someone invite me to the goon clan? My IGN is moribundus_VII Have you read the OP?
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Apr 21, 2014 23:59
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Cainer posted:There any reason to scanning enemies? If you scan an enemy type enough, you get a GOLD☆STAR next to the enemy in your codex. Don't you want to get all the gold stars? gently caress you, 2/3 J3 Golem Scans.
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Sandweed posted:Have you read the OP? Oh, sorry about that
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Wales Grey posted:If you scan an enemy type enough, you get a GOLD☆STAR next to the enemy in your codex. Don't you want to get all the gold stars? gently caress you, 2/3 J3 Golem Scans. Well I'm still scanning enemies like crazy so I guess I do, currently scanning bosses. Wow, they never ever send me messages but with all my boss killings today I have like 6 emails of "Your actions have consequences..." Wish they would just bloody attack me already, still don't have Hate. Cainer fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Apr 22, 2014 |
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Apr 22, 2014 00:03
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You could remove every other power on Ember besides Accelerant and be as effective. Her entire gimmick now is having an extremely spammable, large radius stun - which Excal does just as well while maintaining mobility and an ult that isn't garbage(if you slot natural talent). However Ember is effective to wave5 on the Pluto Dark Sector. That's a highly important niche. Being able to grind the poo poo out of credits relatively simply and quickly is nice. Yes LinkTrinity is better, strictly speaking, and Vauban can do it too as well as hydroid and ok every frame that isn't nekros or ash but god damnit i want to use ember sometime!
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Deciding to fight Hek's turkey mode melee only (when I happened to have my heat dagger equipped) may have been a bad decision. Then having to get back up the waterslide because it bugged and didn't turn off two runs in a row was not one of my better experiences with warframe.
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Ice Fist posted:Block is really really strong. You can block all sorts of ridiculous things like Grineer missiles including their AOE, napalm bursts (not including the burning AOE after the explosion) etc. Another reason to use melee and/or potentially slot some stamina boosting mods. I'll have to try this again because I swear that last time I was blocking Bombard missiles, I was still getting splattered.
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I use ember on low level stuff when I don't have a new frame to level. Accelerant would be way better if they ditched the stun and made it an aoe debuff with a duration that moves with you like WoF. Setting stuff on fire is awesome, but fire as a damage type is kind of lacking after damage 2.0.
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Apr 22, 2014 03:22
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Sandweed posted:What's your ingame name?
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Denzine posted:You could remove every other power on Ember besides Accelerant and be as effective. Her entire gimmick now is having an extremely spammable, large radius stun - which Excal does just as well while maintaining mobility and an ult that isn't garbage(if you slot natural talent). Serious Frolicking posted:I use ember on low level stuff when I don't have a new frame to level. Accelerant would be way better if they ditched the stun and made it an aoe debuff with a duration that moves with you like WoF. Setting stuff on fire is awesome, but fire as a damage type is kind of lacking after damage 2.0. Cheap Trick posted:I'll have to try this again because I swear that last time I was blocking Bombard missiles, I was still getting splattered.
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