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SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013

support are troops with +2 magic weapons.

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PleasingFungus
Oct 10, 2012
idiot asshole bitch who should fuck off

Ferrinus posted:

what i'm talking about is skill challenges that clearly and directly differentiate between skills, such that they mostly aren't interchangeable

i like stuff like "each turn at least one person needs to pass an athletics check or else the boat capsizes, at the same time if someone doesn't pass a nature check to negotiate with the whitewater spirits the athletics check dc will increase by 2, cumulatively. monsters are attacking btw"

'the solution to noncombat encounters sucking: add combat'

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

Fun Shoe

PleasingFungus posted:

'the solution to noncombat encounters sucking: add combat'

If you're playing a game 90% about combat like D&D then yeah you should add as much of that poo poo in wherever you can.

Mystic Mongol
Jan 5, 2007

Your life's been thrown in disarray already--I wouldn't want you to feel pressured.


College Slice

Knitted Art posted:

also can rpgs be sold on islamic countries as long as they don't depict people?!?!?

Elves aren't people

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


SunAndSpring posted:

support are troops with +2 magic weapons.

D&D seems to be huge as a thing to do during down periods at military bases. I know several people who picked it up in the army/navy--all the veterans I know besides my dad and uncle, in fact (who served before D&D was a thing).

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OneThousandMonkeys posted:

D&D seems to be huge as a thing to do during down periods at military bases. I know several people who picked it up in the army/navy--all the veterans I know besides my dad and uncle, in fact (who served before D&D was a thing).

Marines fuckin love D&D.



And porn.

Ferrinus
Jun 19, 2003

i'm finding this quite easy, i guess in part because i'm a fast type but also because i have a coherent mental model of the world

PleasingFungus posted:

'the solution to noncombat encounters sucking: add combat'

the key here is that the situation is clearly described enough that it's functional whether or not you add combat, and can even take place parallel to combat. it's like how you definitely know that athletics can enable you to jump X squares given a running start whether or not you're acting in initiative order

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Mystic Mongol posted:

Elves aren't people

tell that to my Imam!

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Boobplate is haram

ProfessorCirno
Feb 17, 2011

The strongest! The smartest!
The rightest!

Error 404 posted:

Marines fuckin love D&D.



And porn.

And Xbox!

Really, the military in general likes whatever can get it's mind away from real life during downtime.

stoutfish
Oct 8, 2012

by zen death robot
maybe if they express their desires to commit warcrimes in pretend they won't do those crimes in real life

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stoutfish posted:

maybe if they express their desires to commit warcrimes in pretend they won't do those crimes in real life

Some peeps just react badly to neckbeards

01011001
Dec 26, 2012

stoutfish posted:

maybe if they express their desires to commit warcrimes in pretend they won't do those crimes in real life

just gonna get the ol' warcrime itch out in this here roleplaying game

those goblins have families you say? and theyre just beyondhere? good. good

Wales Grey
Jun 20, 2012

01011001 posted:

just gonna get the ol' warcrime itch out in this here roleplaying game

those goblins have families you say? and theyre just beyondhere? good. good

SCENE: A dragon flies over a village caught in a border skirmish. A harmonium soldier is operating a large repeating crossbow, firing bolts tipped with ampules of alchemist's fire indiscriminately into the land below. A reporter is interviewing him for a feature in the Sigil Times about the Blood War's effects on bordering planes.

Hardhead: Git some! Git some! Git some, yeah, yeah, yeah! Anyone who runs, is Chaotic Evil. Anyone who stands still, is Lawful Evil! You guys oughta do a story about me sometime!
Reporter: Why should we do a story just about you?
Hardhead: 'Cuz I'm so fuckin' good! I done got me 157 dead devils killed. Plus 50 owlbears, too! Them's all confirmed!
Reporter: Any women or children?
Hardhead: Sometimes!
Reporter: How can you shoot women or children?
Hardhead: Easy! Ya just don't lead 'em so much! Ain't war hell?

Wales Grey fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Apr 22, 2014

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

Wales Grey posted:

SCENE: A dragon flies over a village caught in a border skirmish. A harmonium soldier is operating a large repeating crossbow, firing bolts tipped with ampules of alchemist's fire indiscriminately into the land below. A reporter is interviewing him for a feature in the Sigil Times about the Blood War's effects on bordering planes.

Hardhead: Git some! Git some! Git some, yeah, yeah, yeah! Anyone who runs, is Chaotic Evil. Anyone who stands still, is Lawful Evil! You guys oughta do a story about me sometime!
Reporter: Why should we do a story just about you?
Hardhead: 'Cuz I'm so fuckin' good! I done got me 157 dead devils killed. Plus 50 owlbears, too! Them's all confirmed!
Reporter: Any women or children?
Hardhead: Sometimes!
Reporter: How can you shoot women or children?
Hardhead: Easy! Ya just don't lead 'em so much! Ain't war hell?

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Wales Grey posted:

SCENE: A dragon flies over a village caught in a border skirmish. A harmonium soldier is operating a large repeating crossbow, firing bolts tipped with ampules of alchemist's fire indiscriminately into the land below. A reporter is interviewing him for a feature in the Sigil Times about the Blood War's effects on bordering planes.

Hardhead: Git some! Git some! Git some, yeah, yeah, yeah! Anyone who runs, is Chaotic Evil. Anyone who stands still, is Lawful Evil! You guys oughta do a story about me sometime!
Reporter: Why should we do a story just about you?
Hardhead: 'Cuz I'm so fuckin' good! I done got me 157 dead devils killed. Plus 50 owlbears, too! Them's all confirmed!
Reporter: Any women or children?
Hardhead: Sometimes!
Reporter: How can you shoot women or children?
Hardhead: Easy! Ya just don't lead 'em so much! Ain't war hell?

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

P.d0t
Dec 27, 2007
I released my finger from the trigger, and then it was over...
LoL

knux911
Nov 21, 2012
New L&L is up; "Making the DM's Job Easy".
MM talks about encounter, NPC and monster design:

http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/4ll/20140421

Fungah!
Apr 30, 2011

lol that whole section on spellcasting npcs. his answer to npc spell lists being too long and unnecessarily cumbersome is literally "well don't write them all down silly"

01011001
Dec 26, 2012

Wales Grey posted:

SCENE: A dragon flies over a village caught in a border skirmish. A harmonium soldier is operating a large repeating crossbow, firing bolts tipped with ampules of alchemist's fire indiscriminately into the land below. A reporter is interviewing him for a feature in the Sigil Times about the Blood War's effects on bordering planes.

Hardhead: Git some! Git some! Git some, yeah, yeah, yeah! Anyone who runs, is Chaotic Evil. Anyone who stands still, is Lawful Evil! You guys oughta do a story about me sometime!
Reporter: Why should we do a story just about you?
Hardhead: 'Cuz I'm so fuckin' good! I done got me 157 dead devils killed. Plus 50 owlbears, too! Them's all confirmed!
Reporter: Any women or children?
Hardhead: Sometimes!
Reporter: How can you shoot women or children?
Hardhead: Easy! Ya just don't lead 'em so much! Ain't war hell?

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

WINNERSH TRIANGLE posted:

The LORD grants the Good, Heaven, Law, Knowledge, Protection, and Strength domains, but you actually worship him so you can enter the Judge prestige class (which looks specifically like a Paladin who can summon free angels at will, I think I remember Joshua doing that),
Which sourcebook gives the BMX Bandit prestige class?

kingcom
Jun 23, 2012

Halloween Jack posted:

Which sourcebook gives the BMX Bandit prestige class?

P.d0t
Dec 27, 2007
I released my finger from the trigger, and then it was over...

Wales Grey posted:

SCENE: A dragon flies over a village caught in a border skirmish. A harmonium soldier is operating a large repeating crossbow, firing bolts tipped with ampules of alchemist's fire indiscriminately into the land below. A reporter is interviewing him for a feature in the Sigil Times about the Blood War's effects on bordering planes.

Hardhead: Git some! Git some! Git some, yeah, yeah, yeah! Anyone who runs, is Chaotic Evil. Anyone who stands still, is Lawful Evil! You guys oughta do a story about me sometime!
Reporter: Why should we do a story just about you?
Hardhead: 'Cuz I'm so fuckin' good! I done got me 157 dead devils killed. Plus 50 owlbears, too! Them's all confirmed!
Reporter: Any women or children?
Hardhead: Sometimes!
Reporter: How can you shoot women or children?
Hardhead: Easy! Ya just don't lead 'em so much! Ain't war hell?

Wait, wtf did he kill 50 of in the actual movie? I'm totally drawing a blank.
Wildebeests? Water buffaloes?

01011001
Dec 26, 2012


prestige class, not base class

so the dmg instead of the phb

Wales Grey
Jun 20, 2012

P.d0t posted:

Water buffaloes

P.d0t
Dec 27, 2007
I released my finger from the trigger, and then it was over...

Halloween Jack posted:

Which sourcebook gives the BMX Bandit prestige class?

Book of Xalted Games

Fungah!
Apr 30, 2011

knux911 posted:

New L&L is up; "Making the DM's Job Easy".
MM talks about encounter, NPC and monster design:

http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/4ll/20140421

seriously it blows my mind that his version of simple but robust is "well it's needlessly complex but you can ignore parts of it if you want"

01011001
Dec 26, 2012

quote:

The system also supports a method of monster creation similar to that used in 3rd Edition. You can start by choosing a monster's ability scores, hit dice, and so forth, designing it without reference to challenge rating. Once you're done, you can then calculate its challenge rating based on the values you assigned to it.

01011001
Dec 26, 2012

what could possibly go wrong

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Fungah! posted:

seriously it blows my mind that his version of simple but robust is "well it's needlessly complex but you can ignore parts of it if you want"
Mike Mearls grew up playing AD&D1e. Mind unblown.

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012

pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is

Hi, i'm from 1992, I'd like my terrible enemy design process back thanks

for all the :smaug: about 4e being literally a video game, the gamey aspects of its monster design is actually a GOOD THING, no matter how much you hate world of warcraft / diablo / whatever 'computer-game' is popular with kids these days

Chernobyl Peace Prize
May 7, 2007

Or later, later's fine.
But now would be good.

quote:

For those creative elements—the parts of the game driven by writing and creativity rather than rules—D&D Next provides copious tables and step-by-step instructions to help you create material quickly and easily.
why do you need step-by-step instructions for the creative part (contrasted specifically with the rules part) you stupid piece of poo poo

P.d0t
Dec 27, 2007
I released my finger from the trigger, and then it was over...
I'm getting more and more confident that my homebrew is gonna suck less than D&DNext.
Be afraid. Be very afraid.

ProfessorCirno
Feb 17, 2011

The strongest! The smartest!
The rightest!

Halloween Jack posted:

Mike Mearls grew up playing AD&D1e. Mind unblown.

When you get down to it, Next is the same as 3.x AND Pathfinder: making a bad system on accident while desperately wishing you were working on AD&D instead.

ProfessorCirno
Feb 17, 2011

The strongest! The smartest!
The rightest!
Every edition of D&D should begin with an apology: Sorry it's not AD&D again, but look we're trying.

4e doesn't because it's Not Real D&D.

Four Score
Feb 27, 2014

by zen death robot
Lipstick Apathy
Importance of required showering before D&D sessions: preeminent.

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

@RunAGame Will caster monsters have full (or abbreviated) rules for all their spells included in the Monster Manual entry? #dndnext
@mikemearls Probably not for all, but ideally for key ones. Comes down to space.

Hey, guys, I hope you liked having to stop to look up spells in mid-game. That approach might be okay for low-level casters, but what happens when you get up to the levels when enemies have dozens of spells and/or spell-like powers at their fingertips?

(Seriously, I'm looking over the Way of the Wicked adventure path for 13th Age conversion, and while it's good stuff overall, the boss fights are almost all "here's a guy in a room, here's his statblock with a solid page full of spell names. Have at it.")

ImpactVector
Feb 24, 2007

HAHAHAHA FOOLS!!
I AM SO SMART!

Uh oh. What did he do now?

Nap Ghost
gently caress that. That's exactly the opposite of how I want to design enemies.

Though I guess since you can backsolve for level, it stands to reason that you could start with CR and derive the attributes instead.

Spell lists can still get hosed though.

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Mendrian
Jan 6, 2013

Somewhere, those Pathfinder guys are sweat'n. They're sweat'n because they know Next is the new hotness, like a nerd with her glasses off, and she is gonna make a clean sweep of all those neckbeards. She's gonna hoover them up and drag them away with her superior product. And then, these Pathfinder guys, they'll look up at the sky clutching a copy of Roleplaying Sales Quarterly, and cry "They stole our game", but nobody can hear irony at a frequency that high. Only dogs can hear it.

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