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BottledBodhisvata posted:I'd like to see classic FF Dungeons kind of remixed in FF14--maybe you find a ruined version of Galbadia Garden someplace or find a Cleyra-like tree dungeon somewhere. That'd be cool. Isn't this exactly what crystal tower is?
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One thing I would love to see brought back from FF11 -- which I realize is not normally a good start to a sentence -- is Dynamis. Basically, they're big raids that take place in dark/evil versions of the main towns, and it was super cool to fight bosses at landmarks where you hang out every day. Imagine starting at Ul'dah's Chamber of Rule and having to fight your way to the Aethernet plaza for the final boss, or fighting trash in Hawker's Alley, or getting mad because your tank keeps going for the lovely treasure coffers in the shops in Gridania. 
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Apr 22, 2014 14:59
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Azubah posted:Isn't this exactly what crystal tower is? Yes. Personally I'm holding out hope for a trip to the moon, a la FF4.
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Apr 22, 2014 15:10
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Crazy Larry posted:Yes. Personally I'm holding out hope for a trip to the moon, a la FF4. Well they did bring the moon to us so who knows.
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Apr 22, 2014 15:24
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Azubah posted:Isn't this exactly what crystal tower is? Yes, so I'm saying, more of that. Imagine having a 24-man raid of a Mako Reactor or North Crater next. That'd rock. That'd rock socks.
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Apr 22, 2014 15:35
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Stormgale posted:Well they did bring the moon to us so who knows. You... kinda do a trip to the moon. I mean a moon in a hologram room but still a moon. Also you enter the moon pretty often.
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Apr 22, 2014 15:35
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Crazy Larry posted:Yes. Personally I'm holding out hope for a trip to the moon, a la FF4. If they ever do a full expansion for FF14, there's two directions they could logically take it. Upwards to the Allagan moon, or Northeast to Garlemald. Either way, expect a lot of robots in either glowy or manned form. The updates until 3.X or whatever they'd call it seem to be fleshing out Eorzea. Dominic White fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Apr 22, 2014 |
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Apr 22, 2014 15:40
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Is every MMO community this mean to tanks? :<
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Apr 22, 2014 15:49
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Rei_ posted:Is every MMO community this mean to tanks? :< I make sure to praise and/or give commendations to any tank I meet that knows how to work things. A lot of them seem to have trouble with even basic concepts, like 'keep the pointy end of the dragon facing AWAY from the healer'.
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Apr 22, 2014 15:54
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only if you're incompetent
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Golden Goat posted:I've been playing with a controller and although it feels natural the only problem is trying to target during hectic fights. I'll need to start using the keyboard & mouse again since cycling through targets requires "The Claw" pksage posted:One thing I would love to see brought back from FF11 -- which I realize is not normally a good start to a sentence -- is Dynamis. Basically, they're big raids that take place in dark/evil versions of the main towns, and it was super cool to fight bosses at landmarks where you hang out every day. Imagine starting at Ul'dah's Chamber of Rule and having to fight your way to the Aethernet plaza for the final boss, or fighting trash in Hawker's Alley, or getting mad because your tank keeps going for the lovely treasure coffers in the shops in Gridania.
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Apr 22, 2014 15:58
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Dominic White posted:I make sure to praise and/or give commendations to any tank I meet that knows how to work things. A lot of them seem to have trouble with even basic concepts, like 'keep the pointy end of the dragon facing AWAY from the healer'. I actually only give commendations to DPS unless a healer absolutely wows me (though I'm a tank so obviously I can't do that), since I know they never get any and I regularly end 8-mans with 5-6 commendations anyway.
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Apr 22, 2014 16:00
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pksage posted:One thing I would love to see brought back from FF11 -- which I realize is not normally a good start to a sentence -- is Dynamis. Basically, they're big raids that take place in dark/evil versions of the main towns, and it was super cool to fight bosses at landmarks where you hang out every day. Imagine starting at Ul'dah's Chamber of Rule and having to fight your way to the Aethernet plaza for the final boss, or fighting trash in Hawker's Alley, or getting mad because your tank keeps going for the lovely treasure coffers in the shops in Gridania. This would also make for great later end game content, perhaps as a plot point for some of the loose ends.
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Apr 22, 2014 16:12
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BottledBodhisvata posted:Yes, so I'm saying, more of that. Imagine having a 24-man raid of a Mako Reactor or North Crater next. That'd rock. That'd rock socks. Or a twelve man raid of Kefka's Tower where three parties of four progress separately until the end.
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Apr 22, 2014 16:12
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PhilippAchtel posted:Or a twelve man raid of Kefka's Tower where three parties of four progress separately until the end. A entire dungeon of Atomos fights would be the antithesis of fun.
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Apr 22, 2014 16:15
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PhilippAchtel posted:Or a twelve man raid of Kefka's Tower where three parties of four progress separately until the end. Now this, this I can get behind.
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Apr 22, 2014 16:16
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KaneTW posted:You... kinda do a trip to the moon. I mean a moon in a hologram room but still a moon. Does it count as the moon if it's pieces embedded into the world though? Perhaps all the eorzean moonwalks were faked, did you think of that?
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Apr 22, 2014 16:16
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Countblanc posted:I actually only give commendations to DPS unless a healer absolutely wows me (though I'm a tank so obviously I can't do that), since I know they never get any and I regularly end 8-mans with 5-6 commendations anyway. I also try to drop a commend on anyone that gives instructions to new players, silent party can really kill the mood for the inexperienced. If no one talks or needs to I usually just dole out to the DPS on low ranks, Heals on high, and tanks on Garuda Ex always assuming victory.
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Apr 22, 2014 16:16
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PhilippAchtel posted:Or a twelve man raid of Kefka's Tower where three parties of four progress separately until the end. I too would like to sit around at the last boss door waiting for Alliance C (whos three bosses back) to find another tank because the last one rage quit due to everyone being terrible.
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Apr 22, 2014 16:16
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Rei_ posted:Is every MMO community this mean to tanks? :< Dunno, I've run into a some really bad tanks. But there are more really bad dragoons out there, than bad tanks.
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Apr 22, 2014 16:20
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Opposing Farce posted:L1 and R1/LB and RB will cycle between enemies if you press them while your skill bar is active. Cheers, you've saved my hands. What about a dungeon based on FFVIII's Castle, where specific actions are locked and require target bosses to be defeated to unlock them?
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Apr 22, 2014 16:20
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Kuvo posted:I too would like to sit around at the last boss door waiting for Alliance C (whos three bosses back) to find another tank because the last one rage quit due to everyone being terrible. Or you could just add something that makes it so that after every boss fight two groups have a common ground to backtrack to help. Like, at boss # 1 team A,C are linked and B, D, then they go on off and have A + D, B + C, etc. It can be made to work, just needs a fine touch.
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Golden Goat posted:Cheers, you've saved my hands. That would be pretty hard to balance, I feel, especially for some classes like WHM who have little else to do if they can't cats their healing spells. That said, it COULD maybe work. FF14 has surprised me before.
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Apr 22, 2014 16:22
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Kuvo posted:I too would like to sit around at the last boss door waiting for Alliance C (whos three bosses back) to find another tank because the last one rage quit due to everyone being terrible. They could do it in such a way that after your group of 4 clears the previous bosses then you go in a queue again for the final boss to try to get around that. But it would still lead to a lot of waiting around after you've already found a group soooo... I think this is just one of those things that sounds great but its really tricky if not impossible to implement in a way that doesn't lead to frustration.
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Apr 22, 2014 16:24
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Kuvo posted:I too would like to sit around at the last boss door waiting for Alliance C (whos three bosses back) to find another tank because the last one rage quit due to everyone being terrible. Fair point 
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Apr 22, 2014 16:28
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BottledBodhisvata posted:That would be pretty hard to balance, I feel, especially for some classes like WHM who have little else to do if they can't cats their healing spells. I figured it'd be impossible to balance out completely but they'd have to be more specific with what is disabled. They couldn't just say "no magic" as it would cause exactly what you've mentioned. It just needs to be something to push people out of their comfort zone.
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Apr 22, 2014 16:28
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Increase the level cap for unlocked skills with every boss downed. Choose which order you kill them.
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BottledBodhisvata posted:That would be pretty hard to balance, I feel, especially for some classes like WHM who have little else to do if they can't cats their healing spells. FFXI did this with Salvage; it was an event where alliances went in and were given a certain number of 'unlock' items to start (so mages could unlock magic, melee could unlock weaponskills, etc), then could earn more by defeating stuff in the dungeon. I never did it, since the worst endgame I did in FFXI was Dynamis because I didn't feel like taking a million years to build a mythic weapon or any of the Salvage armor sets.
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If I want to take up Alchemy, is a particular gathering class best suited to provide mats for it? I was assuming botanists but I've learned to not assume anything about this game 
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Rei_ posted:Is every MMO community this mean to tanks? :< I've gotten to party with some very patient goons when I first started. Off-tanking Garuda hard while trying to tab target the correct sister and position her away from the tornados/group should've earned me some poo poo talk. Now I only get poo poo from DF pubbies that attack the unmarked mob and I purposefully don't tank it. Though that's more for my amusement than anything. If people are making GBS threads on you that much either it's you and you can probably adjust really quickly once you know what's wrong. Or you party with assholes and as a goon you should be better at ignoring/griefing them
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Apr 22, 2014 16:46
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Kuvo posted:I too would like to sit around at the last boss door waiting for Alliance C (whos three bosses back) to find another tank because the last one rage quit due to everyone being terrible.
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For the lore folks, Mr. Happy has done a series of Lore and Final Fantasy Bestiary videos.
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Generally I'm as nice as I physically can be in MMOs. Especially this one because I know absolutely nothing. So I get a guildhest where you have to pull a monster over some poison herbs to put it to sleep. Cue 10 minutes of the DPS and Healer knowing exactly what we're up to and the tank literally just standing and tanking it in one place. I'm sorry guys after spending the entire time typing frantically "Tank, please pull onto gas," I did end up cursing the tank out when he DPSed the thing to death. If he'd even written something down in another language the chances are I'd have been able to deal with it. (As long as it wasn't Cyrillic)
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bubbapook posted:If I want to take up Alchemy, is a particular gathering class best suited to provide mats for it? I was assuming botanists but I've learned to not assume anything about this game "Gather" mats from the market board to level your crafts. If you want to focus on something to farm while leveling your gathering classes then find the one that's most in demand or profitable and focus on that. Use the gil you earned thru selling valuable mats to buy the mats you need to level your crafts. Farming for specific items you need to craft is bad MMO economics.
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bubbapook posted:If I want to take up Alchemy, is a particular gathering class best suited to provide mats for it? I was assuming botanists but I've learned to not assume anything about this game All of the gathering classes are pretty much interconnected. I think a lot of Blacksmith recipes require an item only Alchemists can create, poo poo like that.
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bubbapook posted:If I want to take up Alchemy, is a particular gathering class best suited to provide mats for it? I was assuming botanists but I've learned to not assume anything about this game Botany will supply some materials, but fishing and mining provide a decent amount as well. But if you do try leveling up a DOL class to supply a DOH class, you'll quickly find that you're spending a lot more time leveling the former than the latter, while the majority of crafting materials are sold on the market boards for a pittance.
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OWLS! posted:Dunno, I've run into a some really bad tanks. I came back recently after taking a couple months off and only encountered one really bad DF tank who ignored adds beating on the healer so I kited the adds off the healer with my Bard. One thing I noticed with the low level roulette is healers really dont like Haukke. I had one queue where four times in a row the healer dropped as soon as they seen it was Haukke. Haukke hasnt been hard since forever wtf healers 
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Does Rested XP bonus stack on Duty Roulette bonus or am I wasting it if I go into Duty Roulette with Rested Status?
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Feenix posted:Does Rested XP bonus stack on Duty Roulette bonus or am I wasting it if I go into Duty Roulette with Rested Status? They don't interact -- rested XP doesn't apply to 'flat rewards' like the Roulette Bonus, but does apply to mob kills, so you would get both benefits.
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Endings posted:They don't interact -- rested XP doesn't apply to 'flat rewards' like the Roulette Bonus, but does apply to mob kills, so you would get both benefits. Thank you!
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