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Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Misogynist posted:

Why not just have a PowerShell script that updates a webpage with the contents of the DLs once an hour or whatever?

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb232019%28v=exchg.150%29.aspx

Seems like it should make everybody happy.

Our org chart already does this and has been the go to resource for this for a few years now. This new COO can't handle being without the + next to the distro. He cited all the common issues you normal find with static distros instead of dynamic as his reasoning. He simply couldn't be reasoned with.

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AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM
New company wastes money like they aren't half a billion in debt.

This office is getting progressively smaller as positions are eliminated, and currently everything's pretty much plugged into a bog standard Dell 2848 switch. Nothing fancy, only about half utilized, it cost about $800 if I remember correctly. We also use a low-end Sonicwall for our internet.

Today, a Catalyst 3650 and 1900 show up to replace these devices. Sure, maybe you're a Cisco shop and you want everything consistent, but I am pretty sure that's not worth >$5000 and massively overbuying hardware that you'll never utilize.

Don't forget that we just couldn't afford to continue the old bonus program, so it was just unceremoniously killed and that income is lost.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

AlternateAccount posted:

Today, a Catalyst 3650 and 1900 show up to replace these devices. Sure, maybe you're a Cisco shop and you want everything consistent, but I am pretty sure that's not worth >$5000 and massively overbuying hardware that you'll never utilize.

Do you work here?

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go
What in the ever living gently caress end of my rope done with this poo poo has HP done to their driver downloads? In order to get the smart update firmware DVD for a server I'm being asked to jump through so many verification hoops that I'm certain I'm being pranked, and I'm running into errors at every step. Holy poo poo.

Helushune
Oct 5, 2011

We just bought a bunch of Core2Duo systems... in 2014... and are expecting them to last at least another four years to replace some dying Core2Quad systems. :psyduck:
The best part is that they arrived in a bunch of old sun bleached cash register boxes, improperly packed, and are covered in dirt and mud.

I finally got around to making some answer files for our WDS server and it's been fantastic. Getting the windows system image manager to work properly in windows 8.1 has been a headache. The tool itself is not very intuitive and I get the feeling it was designed for something else entirely.

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

Bob Morales posted:

Do you work here?



Uhhhh. no? But the operation here is of a similar size and technical complexity, I'd wager.

thebigcow
Jan 3, 2001

Bully!

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

What in the ever living gently caress end of my rope done with this poo poo has HP done to their driver downloads? In order to get the smart update firmware DVD for a server I'm being asked to jump through so many verification hoops that I'm certain I'm being pranked, and I'm running into errors at every step. Holy poo poo.

ProLiant drivers and updates are only available to people with an active warranty/service agreement. This is to provide you better service or something.

This includes the micro server that people have been buying for home network storage, should be fun when the only way to get drivers/whatever is :filez:

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go

thebigcow posted:

ProLiant drivers and updates are only available to people with an active warranty/service agreement. This is to provide you better service or something.

This includes the micro server that people have been buying for home network storage, should be fun when the only way to get drivers/whatever is :filez:
I'm inputting the serial number and attempting to add a server of that model to my profile, and the website is like uhhhh I don't know what you expect from me. Just the worst.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

AlternateAccount posted:

Uhhhh. no? But the operation here is of a similar size and technical complexity, I'd wager.

The joke is whatever library system that is (in Virginia or some poo poo) bought $25,000 Cisco routers for every branch, even that little shack in the picture, so they had something like 1 $25,000 router for every 7 users and could have saved 5 million dollars by buying lower-end equipment, and then spent that money on books or staff or running fiber to each library...

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/02/why-a-one-room-west-virginia-library-runs-a-20000-cisco-router/

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

Bob Morales posted:

The joke is whatever library system that is (in Virginia or some poo poo) bought $25,000 Cisco routers for every branch, even that little shack in the picture, so they had something like 1 $25,000 router for every 7 users and could have saved 5 million dollars by buying lower-end equipment, and then spent that money on books or staff or running fiber to each library...

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/02/why-a-one-room-west-virginia-library-runs-a-20000-cisco-router/

Holy fuckin' poo poo. What a bunch of clowns. It sure is easy to spend other peoples' money, I suppose.

And then Cisco trying to justify the whole thing as "forward thinking." What a bunch of assholes.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

I'm inputting the serial number and attempting to add a server of that model to my profile, and the website is like uhhhh I don't know what you expect from me. Just the worst.
I miss Compaq's web site. :(

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Collateral Damage posted:

I miss Compaq's web site. :(

If I had to create one more ROMPaq diskette...

:argh:

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

Bob Morales posted:

If I had to create one more ROMPaq diskette...

:argh:

What's a ROMPaq diskette?



edit: that's a thinly veiled you're old joke.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Jesus gently caress Cisco, stop featuring stuff on your website that's discontinued. Leave it Google-able or in your support pages, but don't show it to me when I'm browsing through your products.

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM
Even though I provided thorough and complete documentation of Every drat Thing several times over to the purchasing company, they went ahead and installed several new very high resolution cameras at the remote site along with a DVR and immediately crushed the poo poo out of the 1Mb link, bringing the whole site down and confusing the poo poo out of everyone until it was unplugged.

I mean goddamn.

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?

angry armadillo posted:

Our procurement dept say over a certain amount of expenditure we must present 3 quotes and go for the cheapest one.
Once your vendors figure out you only buy based on price they will happily through quality and customer service out the window. Doing those things well is rarely cheap, after all.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Bob Morales posted:

If I had to create one more ROMPaq diskette...

:argh:
I had repressed that memory. But my point still stands, Compaq's web site was (mostly) easy to navigate and didn't have any bullshit hoops to jump through before you could download drivers, firmware updates, boot images and so on. They even had pages with information and drivers for end-of-lifed models!

BirdbrainedPhoenix
Mar 18, 2010

Paladine_PSoT posted:

Has anyone questioned this and/or pointed out to management that it's literally worse in every way?

Edit: Point it out to a manager NOT responsible for designing/implementing said boondoggle.

This is coming from so far above my pay grade that I don't even know who is responsible. My company has so many layers of management..

Roargasm
Oct 21, 2010

Hate to sound sleazy
But tease me
I don't want it if it's that easy

Bob Morales posted:

The joke is whatever library system that is (in Virginia or some poo poo) bought $25,000 Cisco routers for every branch, even that little shack in the picture, so they had something like 1 $25,000 router for every 7 users and could have saved 5 million dollars by buying lower-end equipment, and then spent that money on books or staff or running fiber to each library...

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/02/why-a-one-room-west-virginia-library-runs-a-20000-cisco-router/

"In total, $24 million was spent on the routers through a not-very-open bidding process under which non-Cisco router manufacturers such as Juniper and Alcatel-Lucent were not "given notice or any opportunity to bid."

The state that allows Patriot Coal and Freedom Industries free reign over its water supply can write a $20 million dollar check without going to bid? Must have been a mistake for sure :patriot:

baquerd
Jul 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Ynglaur posted:

Once your vendors figure out you only buy based on price they will happily through quality and customer service out the window. Doing those things well is rarely cheap, after all.

What's that, you want real time data for X? OK, we'll bid $5, here's your binary. Oh, you need the binary format? That's $50k.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


baquerd posted:

What's that, you want real time data for X? OK, we'll bid $5, here's your binary. Oh, you need the binary format? That's $50k.

So cunning that it would work.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011

Hi
:saddowns: Don't look at my site :saddowns:
Right now it seems about every other PC is assigning itself a 169 IP even tho they have static IPs set, and you have to disable and reenable the adapter to fix it. Does anyone know what causes this?

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go
Rogue DHCP scope grabbing your IPs forcing the PCs configured as static to switch to 169? It's a possibility but this doesn't really jive with your cycling the adapter fix.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Caged posted:

Jesus gently caress Cisco, stop featuring stuff on your website that's discontinued. Leave it Google-able or in your support pages, but don't show it to me when I'm browsing through your products.

I don't think there's any site I hate more than the Cisco site.

Anything that isn't a current product is buried 50 layers deep with constantly-changing urls, which they don't even bother to keep track of themselves. If you search for a manual for a 10 year old router then half the results will be pages that no longer exist, or which redirect to an EOL declaration with no link to the original content.

ming-the-mazdaless
Nov 30, 2005

Whore funded horsepower

AlternateAccount posted:

A loving salesman tried to call me on my cell after 5 today for an update on a project. The nerve of these people.

A loving salesman contacted me:
1. Sends mail requesting delivery of a design (tied to the seventh phase of a non contracted piece of business set to be contracted in 2017 if it ever does happen, i.e. a waste of time).
2. Moments later: Work mobile, as I was on a recurring conference call, as per my calendar, he left a message which I received.
3. 30 seconds later, a text message.
4. Immediately after that, a call on my personal phone. (He scraped the number from a test phone call I made to a test device a few weeks prior)
5. Immediately after that, a text to my personal phone.
6. A Skype message.

Last week, I attended a family member's funeral. I made the appropriate office arrangements, you know, the usual:
Tell the boss, tell the HR rep/Office manager, block out my calendar, then tell A loving salesman.
A loving salesman, books me a conference call at 19h00 same day, and starts dialing my numbers(work and personal) demanding I provide information to all parties before close of business. His response to me telling him I was at a funeral.
I didn't know you were at a funeral. Just forget it...


Oh boy, appraisal week is not the week to gently caress with me.

RadicalR
Jan 20, 2008

"Businessmen are the symbol of a free society
---
the symbol of America."

ming-the-mazdaless posted:

A loving salesman contacted me:
1. Sends mail requesting delivery of a design (tied to the seventh phase of a non contracted piece of business set to be contracted in 2017 if it ever does happen, i.e. a waste of time).
2. Moments later: Work mobile, as I was on a recurring conference call, as per my calendar, he left a message which I received.
3. 30 seconds later, a text message.
4. Immediately after that, a call on my personal phone. (He scraped the number from a test phone call I made to a test device a few weeks prior)
5. Immediately after that, a text to my personal phone.
6. A Skype message.

Last week, I attended a family member's funeral. I made the appropriate office arrangements, you know, the usual:
Tell the boss, tell the HR rep/Office manager, block out my calendar, then tell A loving salesman.
A loving salesman, books me a conference call at 19h00 same day, and starts dialing my numbers(work and personal) demanding I provide information to all parties before close of business. His response to me telling him I was at a funeral.
I didn't know you were at a funeral. Just forget it...


Oh boy, appraisal week is not the week to gently caress with me.

At the point of calling the personal phone, I would be reporting him for stalking. You did not give him your number and he had no rights to it.

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM
Typically I just don't respond to e-mails like this or I just don't answer the phone. I am really going to miss having a job where I am only accountable to the company President who feels that simply ignoring people being assholes is a valid tactic.

Lum
Aug 13, 2003

e: nvm. I'm not awake this afternoon

Lum fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Apr 23, 2014

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair
So apparently when my company says "We're not going to support XP once it's EOL" they really meant "We're going to tell people we don't support XP anymore but just do whatever work they need anyway!"

HFX
Nov 29, 2004

Sweevo posted:

I don't think there's any site I hate more than the Cisco site.

Anything that isn't a current product is buried 50 layers deep with constantly-changing urls, which they don't even bother to keep track of themselves. If you search for a manual for a 10 year old router then half the results will be pages that no longer exist, or which redirect to an EOL declaration with no link to the original content.

The Oracle site is much of the same. I hate that I have to bury though 8 links to get something I wanted that used to take me no more then 2-3 through Sun.

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster
Pillbug
Why would you ever disable alarms on a SAN?

just :negative:

2 Drives have failed

Dilbert As FUCK fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Apr 23, 2014

bawk
Mar 31, 2013

SEKCobra posted:

Right now it seems about every other PC is assigning itself a 169 IP even tho they have static IPs set, and you have to disable and reenable the adapter to fix it. Does anyone know what causes this?

Sounds like they're failing to use their static IPs and DHCP is handing out 169 addresses somehow because gently caress the police? 9 times out of 10 when I have this problem it's because some chuclefuck set the DNS to google and eventually DHCP just started handing out 169 addresses because it had no idea what was going on.

Do you use DHCP at all, or is every device assigned a static IP? Try widening the DHCP pool and see if devices are still being handed 169 IPs, or if theyre getting non-standard 192./10. IPs

(disclaimer: I'm a tier 1, we just have a serial DNS changer that causes problems like this all the time)

QuiteEasilyDone
Jul 2, 2010

Won't you play with me?

Dilbert As gently caress posted:

Why would you ever disable alarms on a SAN?

just :negative:

2 Drives have failed

Well you see it was making this annoying, angry beeping noise and flashing... that was distracting so...

ming-the-mazdaless
Nov 30, 2005

Whore funded horsepower

AlternateAccount posted:

Typically I just don't respond to e-mails like this or I just don't answer the phone. I am really going to miss having a job where I am only accountable to the company President who feels that simply ignoring people being assholes is a valid tactic.

I wish it were possible, but I'm not too concerned about it. I blocked his number on the personal phone.

He is a self solving problem… Coffee is for closers and he wouldn't get a used k-cup from me.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011

Hi
:saddowns: Don't look at my site :saddowns:

death .cab for qt posted:

Sounds like they're failing to use their static IPs and DHCP is handing out 169 addresses somehow because gently caress the police? 9 times out of 10 when I have this problem it's because some chuclefuck set the DNS to google and eventually DHCP just started handing out 169 addresses because it had no idea what was going on.

Do you use DHCP at all, or is every device assigned a static IP? Try widening the DHCP pool and see if devices are still being handed 169 IPs, or if theyre getting non-standard 192./10. IPs

(disclaimer: I'm a tier 1, we just have a serial DNS changer that causes problems like this all the time)

Aren't 169 the MS default crap? We do have DHCP, but none that hands out those IPs or anything.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Doesn't have anything to do with Microsoft. 169.254.0.0/16 is the address block reserved for IPv4 autoconfiguration as defined in RFC 3330.

e: If Windows doesn't have a static address configured and doesn't get a usable reply from any DHCP server it will fall back to autoconfig.

NullPtr4Lunch
Jun 22, 2012

Docjowles posted:

Scumbag coworker: makes production change at 4:50PM on Friday. Brings down a couple hundred VM's literally as I am closing my laptop to gently caress off for the weekend.

:guinness:

(To his credit he's fixing it, I'm just sticking around as support if needed)

Where I work, we've got a hard learned dept-wide policy not to gently caress around with poo poo on Friday afternoons.

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go
Fight with issue off and on for a day, then finally reach a breaking point and contact their customer service, only for the issue to disappear moments after I open the ticket...

e: Alright cool it wasn't resolved, just appeared to be, good stuff good stuff. Still, I shouldn't have to fight with this program SO MUCH to get it to do what, I think, is its entire purpose.

MC Fruit Stripe fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Apr 23, 2014

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

death .cab for qt posted:

Sounds like they're failing to use their static IPs and DHCP is handing out 169 addresses somehow because gently caress the police? 9 times out of 10 when I have this problem it's because some chuclefuck set the DNS to google and eventually DHCP just started handing out 169 addresses because it had no idea what was going on.

Do you use DHCP at all, or is every device assigned a static IP? Try widening the DHCP pool and see if devices are still being handed 169 IPs, or if theyre getting non-standard 192./10. IPs

(disclaimer: I'm a tier 1, we just have a serial DNS changer that causes problems like this all the time)

Changing the DNS server shouldn't have any effect on the host IP configuration through DHCP, and especially not if it has a static address assigned...

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bawk
Mar 31, 2013

Inspector_666 posted:

Changing the DNS server shouldn't have any effect on the host IP configuration through DHCP, and especially not if it has a static address assigned...

One dude at work trouble shoots stuff by changing DNS settings to 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4 and doesn't change it back, then at some point we stumble across it because somebody sends in a ticket about connection issues. Lo and behold, changing the DNS server back to the DC like it is supposed to be or our setups will magically give it a 192 address instead of 169.

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