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Blows the dogwhistle and gets miffed when the hounds come a-running
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 12:42 |
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What's everyone's favourite right wing political opponent nickname? Mine is the endlessly funny 'Limp Dums'.
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 13:05 |
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Metrication posted:What's everyone's favourite right wing political opponent nickname? Pffft, "ZaNu LIEbore" has got that beat hands down
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 13:07 |
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Good news, everybody! http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/07ebc8b4-cac6-11e3-ba95-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2zh2Dirrp quote:Public borrowing met George Osborne’s target for the financial year, official figures revealed on Wednesday, showing the British economy’s deficit reduction programme is back on track. Further cuts will be required because the only way to balance the government's budget is to reduce spending. There is no possible way for a government to increase its revenue.
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 13:08 |
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KKKlean Energy posted:Pffft, "ZaNu LIEbore" has got that beat hands down Use the full name please. ZaNu LIEbore PF.
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 13:42 |
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LemonDrizzle posted:Good news, everybody! And once we've eliminated the deficit we can finally start paying down the debt! We can't let our lenders go unrewarded for all the help they have given us over the years. If public services suffer, don't worry as your super flexible employment terms will let you bootstrap your way to the middle where you can choose which services you want to pay for .
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 14:08 |
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Be careful what you wish for... If Cameron loses the next election, who will he be replaced by? Perhaps a strong right winger such as Boris or worse.
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 14:10 |
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Radio Prune posted:
I thought Tommeh had given up the EDL to go on speaking tours?
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 14:14 |
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^^^ check the dates ^^^no_one posted:Be careful what you wish for...
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 14:20 |
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no_one posted:Be careful what you wish for...
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 14:48 |
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no_one posted:Be careful what you wish for... Not sure I understand. If he loses the next election, he'll be replaced (as PM) by whoever wins the next election. If he's replaced as party leader, then it won't matter who it is as his party will be out of power for 5 years (which ought to be plenty of time for Boris or May or Gove to fall flat on his or her face. One hopes.).
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 14:52 |
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I literally can't wait for Labour to get in. They're going to do so well, I can feel it.
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 15:10 |
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No they're going to continue to be awful liberals. Election 2015: Whoever wins, we lose.
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 15:23 |
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Saki posted:I literally can't wait for Labour to get in. They're going to do so well, I can feel it. I don't think anyone's OK with Labour here. It's just that when your choice is between cartoon supervillainy and diluted cartoon supervillainy, there's really only one pick.
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 15:24 |
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KKKlean Energy posted:Not sure I understand. If he loses the next election, he'll be replaced (as PM) by whoever wins the next election. If he's replaced as party leader, then it won't matter who it is as his party will be out of power for 5 years (which ought to be plenty of time for Boris or May or Gove to fall flat on his or her face. One hopes.). Who will replace him, I have a hunch that he will chase the right wing votes. Hope I am wrong.
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 15:26 |
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Ed Milliband looks off-puttingly alike to my old head prefect. Actually a bit less charismatic though.
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 15:41 |
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Theresa May is more popular than Boris to conservative party members but whether they're willing to let her lead the party after Cameron gets the boot is another matter, considering the shambles that was the Abu Qatada deportation and the other fuckups at the Border Agency while she's been in charge.
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 15:43 |
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Of course, the 2015 election date is assuming that Scotland doesn't vote to gently caress off by themselves in September. I've got no doubt that the shock of losing Scotland would precipitate an early General Election in the rump UK. (the election campaign would, of course, mainly consist of a furious row over which party was most to blame for 'losing' Scotland.)
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 15:49 |
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Why do you see Cameron getting the boot? Labour's lead in general election polls is only 3%*, which is very much Kinnock 1991 territory, and Cameron's in a much stronger position going into 2015 than Major was going into 1992 - the Tories haven't been pushing any riot-starting policies or been in government when a major financial crisis hit for a start. This is very much a winnable election for Labour, but I'd be loath to put any money on them. Also, the next election will be in 2015 no matter what the Scottish result - we have fixed term parliaments now. * They do much better in euro election polls, but the electorate as a whole doesn't really take those seriously and they're not indicative of general election voting patterns.
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 15:53 |
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UK TV has hit rock bottom, channel 4 are to introduce a 'decide who will live and who will die' reality show: http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/apr/23/channel-4-documentary-nhs-costs
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 15:54 |
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SybilVimes posted:UK TV has hit rock bottom, channel 4 are to introduce a 'decide who will live and who will die' reality show: The Article Linked In Your Post posted:it will not be a kind of Patient Idol or X-ray Factor style-show as viewers will not actually have the final say on who receives the treatment, only register their opinions on either a website or Twitter feed. However, in housing news ladies and gentlemen I present The Free Market!* http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27123966 BBC News posted:Fire brigade worried about London's 'hidden homes' *I think The Free Market! is the new The Aristocrats!
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 16:00 |
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LemonDrizzle posted:Why do you see Cameron getting the boot? Labour's lead in general election polls is only 3%*, which is very much Kinnock 1991 territory, and Cameron's in a much stronger position going into 2015 than Major was going into 1992 - the Tories haven't been pushing any riot-starting policies or been in government when a major financial crisis hit for a start. This is very much a winnable election for Labour, but I'd be loath to put any money on them. they could still lose a vote of confidence forcing an early election
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 16:01 |
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SybilVimes posted:UK TV has hit rock bottom, channel 4 are to introduce a 'decide who will live and who will die' reality show: Well, it won't, thankfully. But if nothing else, maybe it will make people realise how valuable and essential the NHS is, and how it can't be done on the cheap, or run by that chap you know from the club.
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 16:01 |
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LemonDrizzle posted:
if Scotland votes Yes, the first thing David Cameron would have to do is visit Buckingham Palace for an extremely awkward conversation with the Queen about how he's managed to mislay her country. The second thing he'd have to do is resign - there's no way that he could continue in office as the Prime Minister who Lost Britain. Aside from DC, it's important to realise now just what an extraordinarily bitter post-mortem there'd be at Westminister in the aftermath of a Yes vote. I'm quite sure that the Coalition would be ripped apart and there'd be nothing left to do except call for new elections.
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 16:01 |
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SybilVimes posted:UK TV has hit rock bottom, channel 4 are to introduce a 'decide who will live and who will die' reality show: I don't know, it could bring a few realities home and make people more aware of what funding cuts and 'efficiency savings' actually mean. And they're not actually influencing what happens. It's got a long way to go before it beats Channel 5's "but this man claims not all Roma in Britain are thieves!" toxic race-baiting shite
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 16:06 |
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Cerv posted:they could still lose a vote of confidence forcing an early election Was it ever settled what would actually happen in those circumstances? ISTR the rushed-through law left a pretty massive loophole where 55% of Parliament was required to dissolve Parliament even though only 50%+1 are required to remove confidence or supply.
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 16:13 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Was it ever settled what would actually happen in those circumstances? ISTR the rushed-through law left a pretty massive loophole where 55% of Parliament was required to dissolve Parliament even though only 50%+1 are required to remove confidence or supply. Answering my own question, they removed that loophole, although it seems like they get a second bite of the cherry with a formal vote of confidence required as a followup to a vote of no-confidence (where before that was just convention).
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 16:16 |
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The Fixed Term Parliaments Act is essentially just for show. Regardless of the mechanics it puts in place (supermajority, or loss of confidence) for calling an early election, it still only takes 50% +1 to repeal the law.
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 16:16 |
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Happy Shakespeare deathday! Have a list of banal clichés that he invented*, and we use 450 years later, to celebrate. *Or at least published in a form we still have access to.
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 16:22 |
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Umiapik posted:if Scotland votes Yes, the first thing David Cameron would have to do is visit Buckingham Palace for an extremely awkward conversation with the Queen about how he's managed to mislay her country. The second thing he'd have to do is resign - there's no way that he could continue in office as the Prime Minister who Lost Britain. Aside from DC, it's important to realise now just what an extraordinarily bitter post-mortem there'd be at Westminister in the aftermath of a Yes vote. I'm quite sure that the Coalition would be ripped apart and there'd be nothing left to do except call for new elections. She would still be queen of Scotland. There's no real support for getting rid of the monarchy here. In fact suggesting we might lose the queen if we go independent has been one of the more successful unionist scare stories! Despite it having no basis in reality- the SNP would never get rid of her and she would never abdicate.
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 16:24 |
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marktheando posted:She would still be queen of Scotland. There's no real support for getting rid of the monarchy here. In fact suggesting we might lose the queen if we go independent has been one of the more successful unionist scare stories! Despite it having no basis in reality- the SNP would never get rid of her and she would never abdicate. Also there's no way he would ever get the chance to have that conversation, he would be killed by his own party before the champagne corks hit the ground. (This may be more than just a figure of speech, by the way - with the referendum coming after the last Queens Speech he could theoretically continue in power until the election as the Queens Speech is the last compulsory confidence vote on the calendar, but I'm guessing members of The Conservative And Unionist Party - which is their full name after all - might have to look at other methods of getting him out of power)
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 16:29 |
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SybilVimes posted:UK TV has hit rock bottom, channel 4 are to introduce a 'decide who will live and who will die' reality show: Sarah Palin's death panels, but staffed by Channel 4 viewers. Noel Edmonds as the final judge, taking an imaginary phone call from an executioner. FEAR THIS.
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 16:31 |
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:No, they haven't, and they never would be allowed to.
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 16:32 |
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Zephro posted:The response to this stuff from officialdom seems to be "how dare people live in these places? Let's enforce the law and move them on!" rather than "Wow, if people are willing to put up with living in subhuman conditions we really need to start building some bloody houses". Well, you see, people are choosing to live in these places, not being driven to it. There will always be unlimited demand for a free good
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 16:46 |
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Even Peter Oborne and the Telegraph think the housing market is hosed (because it is) http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peteroborne/100268487/honest-work-cant-put-a-roof-over-our-heads-true-conservatives-should-be-appalled/
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 16:49 |
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Trickjaw posted:Well, it won't, thankfully. But if nothing else, maybe it will make people realise how valuable and essential the NHS is, and how it can't be done on the cheap, or run by that chap you know from the club. It's a channel 4 show so I can 100% guarantee that the main focus will be on whatever 'unnecessary' cosmetic surgery the NHS offers, and that the patients in focus will be loud-mouthed self-entitled pricks (or their statements to the camera will be cherry-picked to make them appear as such) Just you wait, that's what it will be
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 16:53 |
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Umiapik posted:Of course, the 2015 election date is assuming that Scotland doesn't vote to gently caress off by themselves in September. I've got no doubt that the shock of losing Scotland would precipitate an early General Election in the rump UK. Labour will be blamed and it'll stick really. It's no accident that the Tories are distancing themselves from the independence referendum, they know their influence up here is more toxic than Labour's and having Labour do the heavy lifting just puts their head on the block in the event of a Yes vote.
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 16:55 |
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Trickjaw posted:Well, it won't, thankfully. But if nothing else, maybe it will make people realise how valuable and essential the NHS is, and how it can't be done on the cheap, or run by that chap you know from the club. It'll be a load of people that look awful and have illnesses that look like they are all their own fault (alcoholics needing transplants, morbidly obese people wanting gastric bands) so that everyone can talk about how the NHS is taking your tax money so sluts can get boob jobs.
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 16:56 |
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no_one posted:Who will replace him, I have a hunch that he will chase the right wing votes. Hope I am wrong. Boris is disliked by all the party regulars and won't be able to run for this coming general election. Which is fine, as he's their only chance at winning it, theoretically. The replacements essentially boil down to "May or Gove" at the moment, so you've got a choice between a genuine war criminal or the most incompetent government official in recent memory. If, however, the leadership changes hands after the GE, there's a chance they'll actually listen to their PR team telling them to get May and Gove both as far from the party as possible, as they're hateful and what might be termed "vote-cancer". In which case, there's the solid tradition of promoting the chancellor. Either way there is absolutely no chance of anyone remotely competent getting it. Cameron has faced the humiliation of being the first British PM to lose a motion to war vote, and will shortly lose Scotland, it seems. At the very least we can thank that he'll go down in history as a complete joke of a PM to all, regardless of his murderous attitude to the less well-off.
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Spangly A posted:The replacements essentially boil down to "May or Gove" at the moment, so you've got a choice between a genuine war criminal or the most incompetent government official in recent memory. But Maria Miller isn't either of those? Seriously, Gove's more ideological than incompetent. Maria Miller was just incompetent. Education wishes it was as incompetent as DCMS.
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