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cheerfullydrab posted:This is a silly question, but why isn't there any of this climate in China? I bet it has something to do with coastal currents there being warmer than elsewhere.
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cheerfullydrab posted:This is a silly question, but why isn't there any of this climate in China? A prevailing westerly wind due to the rotation of the earth results in an overall onshore wind pattern around the 40th parallel. If you notice, the Mediterranean climate zones tend to be located on the Western coasts of zones located around the general area of 40 degrees North. DrSunshine fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Apr 24, 2014 |
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withak posted:I bet it has something to do with coastal currents there being warmer than elsewhere.
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cheerfullydrab posted:This is a silly question, but why isn't there any of this climate in China?
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The climate where I live is officially "Sub Mediterranean" and I have no idea what that means. But the idea of getting any rain during the summer was a new and alien concept I only learned when I began to travel.
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Baronjutter posted:The climate where I live is officially "Sub Mediterranean" and I have no idea what that means. But the idea of getting any rain during the summer was a new and alien concept I only learned when I began to travel.
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DrSunshine posted:Fine, fine! Here!! WHERE IS DIEGO GARCIA!!! :rabblerabblerabble:
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cheerfullydrab posted:This is a silly question, but why isn't there any of this climate in China?
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There's been at least one goon stationed in Antarctica. I don't really fancy the idea of going there myself, seems like a cool place to live for a while though.
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I have a photo of the Mediterranean climate at the Yasukuni shrine. This n at explain it's absence from China.
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cheerfullydrab posted:This is a silly question, but why isn't there any of this climate in China? The Mediterranean climate is based on cool, wet winters and warm, dry summers. These conditions typically happen in latitudes just above the subtropical deserts because the polar front (where most instability, and hence, precipitation) tend to be closer to the equator during the winter. Furthermore, they tend to be on western regions of continents (in the northern hemisphere) because eastern margins are more susceptible to incursions of continental polar air (colder than marine air near the oceans) and tend to be wetter because storms typically follow trade wind movements to the northeast along continental margins. tl;dr: China doesn't have any because it's not getting storms coming off the ocean, it gets storms coming from Central Asia. EDIT: The cooler currents running along the western margins of continents likely play a role too, yes. ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Apr 24, 2014 |
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China has Mediterranean climate because the Mediterranean is an integral part of China for 5000 years.
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No, just half of Asia:
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Grand Fromage posted:China has Mediterranean climate because the Mediterranean is an integral part of China for 5000 years. The Mediterranean climate has four seasons. It was invented in China/Korea/Japan.
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Thanks for the responses. Now I'm imagining an alt-history West-facing China with a barren inner core that develops on its coastline like the Mediterranean in the 600's B.C - 100 A.D. Maybe by Kim Stanley Robinson?
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Lord Hydronium posted:
I do not see any red countries. e: Shbobdb posted:I have a photo of the Mediterranean climate at the Yasukuni shrine. This n at explain it's absence from China. Also, I don't know what you're saying with that second sentence. Frostwerks fucked around with this message at 08:32 on Apr 24, 2014 |
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ComradeCosmobot posted:The Mediterranean climate is based on cool, wet winters and warm, dry summers. These conditions typically happen in latitudes just above the subtropical deserts because the polar front (where most instability, and hence, precipitation) tend to be closer to the equator during the winter. Furthermore, they tend to be on western regions of continents (in the northern hemisphere) because eastern margins are more susceptible to incursions of continental polar air (colder than marine air near the oceans) and tend to be wetter because storms typically follow trade wind movements to the northeast along continental margins. I think you got the bolded part wrong. Look at this wind map:  Again, think about the imbalance in land masses in the hemispheres. Blue winds are at the same latitude, and yellow/brown winds as well. The special conditions necessary for Mediterranean climate only occur at latitudes in which the Westerlies are dominant. And you need these winds to blower over the ocean. That's the reason that all Mediterranean climates are on the western coast of the continents. The Mediterranean Sea itself is a bit of an outlier here, for obvious geographical reasons. tl,dr: There's no need to differentiate between hemispheres, all dominant wind systems on the same latitude north/south blow in the same east-west direction.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Depending on how the stats are gathered, that may be because French Guiana has a ccTLD and Alaska does not. Why does France get four or five codes when the rest of the world gets one?
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Golbez posted:Why does France get four or five codes when the rest of the world gets one? Greenland, an autonomous country in Denmark, also has its own ccTLD. On the same subject, here's another politically loaded map, and a rather recurrent one in this thread:  Former (blue) and current (red) countries on the UN's list of Non-Self-Governing Territories (i.e. colonies). French Guiana was removed after a year after France said "nah, they're totally an integral part of our country". Algeria, for the same reason, was never listed. Gibraltar is listed as a NSGT but Ceuta and Melilla, across the sea, are not; Spain convinced Morocco to not submit it to the initial list and they've been rueing it ever since. The Falklands had a referendum last year in which only three people out of 1,500 votes (and an electorate of 1,650) voted for a change of status. Due to the usual protestations of Argentina, they remain on the list. The Pitcairn Islands, with a population of 50 (mostly comprised of rapists), is listed, and feasibly cannot become self-governing (although the rapists tried their hardest to convince them of the opposite). French Polynesia is on the list due to their pro-independence former president Oscar Temaru asking for them to be inscribed. Two weeks before the inscription, Temaru lost an election to the autonomist Popular Rally, who immediately asked not to be added, to no avail.
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Golbez posted:Why does France get four or five codes when the rest of the world gets one? Britain gets a few as does the USA. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_top-level_domains#Country_code_top-level_domains
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Disco Infiva posted:Monsoon? That's right, China is subject to the East Asian Summer and Winter monsoons (it's a different monsoonal system than the monsoons of South Asia). The giant, warm Tibetan Plateau and the freezing cold hell of Kazakhstan interact with the varying sea surface temperature of the Pacific to suck moist sea air deep into China and feed its people with the milk and honey of the Yellow River. At last, that what affects the North China flood plain. South China is a barbarian land full of people who stain their teeth black and eat rice--I would not venture down there. Also, Sichuan is its own region, but... oh forget it, have a map made by Sinologist Bill Skinner that splits China neatly (ha!) into 9 awesome regions that should be used in a wargame:  10 Northeast China, 东北区 20 North China, 华北区 30 Northwest China 西北区 Wei-Fen Basins 渭汾流域分区 Upper Huang River Basin 黄河上游分区 Gansu Corridor 河西(甘肃)走廊分区 40 Upper Yangtze 长江上游区 50 Middle Yangtze 长江中游区 Middle Yangtze proper 长江中游分区 Gan Basin 赣江流域分区 Yuan Basin 沅江流域分区 Upper Han Basin 汉江上游分区 60 Lower Yangtze 长江下游区 70 Southeast Coast 东南沿海区 (approximately Fujian, eastern part of Guangdong, southern part of Zhejiang, and Taiwan) Ou-Ling River Basins 瓯灵流域分区 Min River Basin 闽江流域分区 Zhang-Quan 漳泉分区 (Zhangzhou plus Quanzhou) Han Basin 韩江流域分区 Taiwan 台湾分区 80 Lingnan 岭南区, which may be translated as "South of Mountains". It includes the Southern coast and nearly coincides with the two entities: province of Guangdong and Guangxi autonomous region, together traditionally called "Two Guang provinces", or Liangguang. [4] 90 Yungui 云贵区; covers most of Yunnan Province and larger part of Guizhou Province and corresponds to the Yungui Plateau. Modern provinces of Xinjiang, Tibet, Qinghai and a larger part of Inner Mongolia are not considered by Skinner's scheme.
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Frostwerks posted:I do not see any red countries.
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Torrannor posted:I think you got the bolded part wrong. Look at this wind map: I should have said "in the Northern Hemisphere at least". I wanted to hedge my bets on the Southern Hemisphere being wrong, as I wasn't paying close attention to the map.
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Frostwerks posted:
Phone posting, it should have read: I have a photo of the Mediterranean climate at the Yasukuni shrine. This may explain it's absence from China.
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Shbobdb posted:Phone posting, it should have read: I have a photo of the Mediterranean climate at the Yasukuni shrine. This may explain it's absence from China. The Mediterranean climate has, time and time again, hurt the feelings of the Chinese people.
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The creation of a Chinese Mediterranean climate is an important step in the development of socialism in China. 
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Peanut President posted:Britain gets a few as does the USA. Their territories get codes because external territories are not usually considered part of the country in question, whereas French Guiana is unquestionably part of France. Looking at the list of ISO 3166 codes, the countries with multiple codes are... Netherlands, with codes for Bonaire, Sint Eustacius, and Saba; and Curacao Finland, with a code for Aland Denmark, with codes for the Faroe Islands and Greenland France, with codes for French Guiana, Guadeloupe, Martinique, and Reunion China, with codes for Hong Kong and Macau Norway, with a code for Svalbard and Jan Mayen Several countries have codes for territories, some of which can be considered more internal than external territories (France seems to operate that way), but the above are codes for areas that are unquestionably full portions of the country or kingdom in question. (Edit: "unquestionably" may be strong, as I'm no expert on Aland or the full structure of the Dutch and Danish kingdoms, so don't eviscerate me please if I overstated the case on the non-French ones) For France to get ISO codes for departments just because they aren't attached... why not Northern Ireland, Hawaii, Kaliningrad, and Okinawa, among many others? What's special about those? Golbez fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Apr 24, 2014 |
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ISO 3166 was first published in 1974, when a lot of those places were still colonies or of otherwise complicated relationships with their controlling states (and the Soviet Union - .su - was still a thing). EDIT: Some of France's overseas departments probably got their codes from historical inertia and the fact that they're on different continents with different technical standards. Okinawa is still relatively close to Japan and Kaliningrad to Russia (with only other similarly-allied territories in between), and Hawaii isn't close to much of anything but military and academic ties only give it the one option. There's also almost certainly tons and tons of political bullshit involved, since this was the Cold War. dont be mean to me fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Apr 24, 2014 |
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Here's a much better climate map, although they probably could have made the colors contrast more. The green in the American South is a slightly different shade than the green in Western Europe, and they're both different from the green in Northern India: Edit: You can read about what the acronyms mean at the wiki article. Konstantin fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Apr 24, 2014 |
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Konstantin posted:Here's a much better climate map, although they probably could have made the colors contrast more. The green in the American South is a slightly different shade than the green in Western Europe, and they're both different from the green in Northern India: Some sort of key for the acronyms at the bottom would be good.
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a pipe smoking dog posted:Some sort of key for the acronyms at the bottom would be good. That's the Köppen climate classification.
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Golbez posted:Their territories get codes because external territories are not usually considered part of the country in question, whereas French Guiana is unquestionably part of France. As was mentioned previously, ISO 3166 was initially released in 1974, so it still has (some) quirks dating back to then. Most of these quirks have disappeared over time (e.g. separate codes for Antarctic claims, Belarus and Ukraine having separate codes while still being part of the USSR [owing to having separate UN seats from its founding]) and, aside from the French territories, most "oddities" have some sort of self-rule/autonomy/external territory relationship. Åland, for example, has special status in Finland owing to an issue resolved by the League of Nations in 1921. Nowadays it's mostly sane because new entries need to be listed by the UN, which basically boils down to a new country joining the UN. (Wikipedia suggests that joining a specialized agency would suffice, but Kosovo is a member of the IMF and World Bank and still hasn't been added to ISO 3166)
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Golbez posted:Several countries have codes for territories, some of which can be considered more internal than external territories (France seems to operate that way), but the above are codes for areas that are unquestionably full portions of the country or kingdom in question. (Edit: "unquestionably" may be strong, as I'm no expert on Aland or the full structure of the Dutch and Danish kingdoms, so don't eviscerate me please if I overstated the case on the non-French ones) I can help you with the structure of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. Instead of explaining it myself, I'll just show this vid, which explains it rather clearly. Although he pronounces a few things wrong, and the things on the Frisian flag aren't hearts but lily leaves. Additionally, the Frisians are the kind of people who would start a small war over that kind of mistake if they had the time and money. I think it's a rather interesting explanation in any case. By the way, the video shows the current state of the kingdom. The Caribbean parts of the kingdom changed their status a few years ago, so before that, things were somewhat different. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE_IUPInEuc Edit: Oh, by the way, from the same guy a vid about the political structure of the UK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10 Carbon dioxide fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Apr 24, 2014 |
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All of those tiny Caribbean islands also have their own independent national sports teams that compete in international competitions. Of course, they mostly play each other in matches no one cares about, but sometimes you get incredibly lopsided matches when the US or Mexico has to play one of them.
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Konstantin posted:All of those tiny Caribbean islands also have their own independent national sports teams that compete in international competitions. Of course, they mostly play each other in matches no one cares about, but sometimes you get incredibly lopsided matches when the US or Mexico has to play one of them.
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Carbon dioxide posted:
Thanks , that was...really good actually.
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Ghetto Prince posted:Thanks , that was...really good actually. Grey's videos are really educational. Most people would do good to watch those listed above as well as the EU explained video. He covers so much so fast that you're bound to not already know a lot of it. (If you're not from the country in question)
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Carbon dioxide posted:Is Christiano Ronaldo that popular around the world? Yes he is probably one of the most recognizable figures in the world, except maybe the US. I think only Obama, Putin and Messi are comparable, now that Mandela has died. e: probably Bush too
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