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 That's our UKIP! Edit: And the sad unemployed builder in the UKIP campaign posters was an Irish immigrant. By god, they really are taking all of our jobs. http://thewordsmythuk.wordpress.com/2014/04/24/the-sweet-sweet-irony-of-ukips-latest-poster-campaign/ Gonzo McFee fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Apr 24, 2014 |
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Gonzo McFee posted:
Yeah, he has been suspended, according to Nick Robinson. Tsk, these unpalatable out-of-nowhere opinions are so pesky, and never seem to be picked up in the selection process (which must be an afternoon down the Dog and Duck).Its almost like they all possess these views anyway.
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I'll give it to the Tory party, they at least know to keep these views behind closed doors.
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Trickjaw posted:Yeah, he has been suspended, according to Nick Robinson. Tsk, these unpalatable out-of-nowhere opinions are so pesky, and never seem to be picked up in the selection process (which must be an afternoon down the Dog and Duck).Its almost like they all possess these views anyway. Haha people on twitter are saying he was born in Zimbabwe. I guess you aren't an immigrant if you were born in one of the colonies and come over here (and are white obviously)?
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^^^The Empire is totally different to a European State, obviously. And we could freely shoot the darkies out there, so they knew their place^^^Gonzo McFee posted:I'll give it to the Tory party, they at least know to keep these views behind closed doors. Big Nige agrees. Are the Hamiltons still Kippers? They have to be chomping at the bit to do something reprehensible to get tham back in the scandal rags. Nick 'Tory boy' Robinson posted:Farage admits "Something's gone wrong with our systems, this guy should have been weeded out". He was a UKIP council candidate too Trickjaw fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Apr 24, 2014 |
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They got rid of the Hamiltons I believe.
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marktheando posted:Haha people on twitter are saying he was born in Zimbabwe. I guess you aren't an immigrant if you were born in one of the colonies and come over here (and are white obviously)? Britishness is not by birth, but by generations of being British. I think he's an immortal.
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marktheando posted:They got rid of the Hamiltons I believe. Aww. That could have been marvellous. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/shortcuts/2014/apr/21/neil-hamilton-ukip-christine-nigel-farage
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Gonzo McFee posted:Britishness is not by birth, but by generations of being British. I'm pretty sure people are only saying this because it's got really awkward now that there are jamaicans and such who have been here for three generations and they've only just noticed. They're going to flip poo poo when they realise how long Moorish and Arabs have been here.
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Spangly A posted:I'm pretty sure people are only saying this because it's got really awkward now that there are jamaicans and such who have been here for three generations and they've only just noticed. Pictured: the oldest recorded hiding place of satanic foreign religions  Muslims have been worshipping here for over 150 years, those sneaky buggers must have forced dear old Queen Victoria to give them the right to do so thanks to wet Liberal euro-loving Prime Minister The 3rd Viscount Palmerston and the meddling Belgian King Leopold I.
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Yeah but that house wasn't there at, oh let's say, the end of the last ice age. That's when True Britishness began!
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Gonzo McFee posted:Britishness is not by birth, but by generations of being British. His first name is French and his surname is Anglo-Saxon, none of him is British.
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baka kaba posted:Yeah but that house wasn't there at, oh let's say, the end of the last ice age. That's when True Britishness began! This is honestly the most fun way to start a fight in a pub. Ask the nearest drunken UKIP supporter to trace their ancestry for appropriate British drawing lines. Then, when they inevitably can't get past ww1 (a personal best so far), point out that Mooslems and Darkies predate that by several centuries and watch the lines of argument completely change. At this point be sure to be the closest person to them, it's bad form to not take the first punch.
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I hate that bullshit logic on Britishness, my Mum's great-grandparents moved to Britain before WW1 to work in the Durham coalfields, before settling in Yorkshire. Therefore I am a 5th generation immigrant, but because of my pure Aryan complexion I'm totes British, but fellas I went to school with who are 4th generation immigrants from the Punjab are not because reasons. I don't expect logic from idiot racists, but COME ON.
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CancerCakes posted:And we all now know where to send our "donations" to the UKIP fund (two pounds in pennies). Pounds? Pennies? Come on dude, €5 in 1 cent coins 
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Jack the Lad posted:I was handed this at the tube station this morning: There is another party that wants to do all of those things (except 2, and while 4 is true it's not for restricting immigration) but I don't think the Tories will like being in our company.  Also "vote in an in-out referendum" is a really clumsy sentence, it sounds like the hokey-cokey.
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:Pictured: the oldest recorded hiding place of satanic foreign religions Is that by Cardiff University? Senghenydd Road?
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Go out and vote us in to get to vote 'out' and outvote 'in' in an in-out referendum in time
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baka kaba posted:Go out and vote us in to get to vote 'out' and outvote 'in' in an in-out referendum in time Hah, postal vote uber-class represent! My vote doesn't count 
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Then it looks like you've voted to stay in while you vote to stay in or out! You're a perfect fit for the conservatives' dynamic thinking on this issue
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Oh dear me posted:There is a lot of support for homeopathy etc among every party's members, but it's only used as a (bad) argument against Greens. Oh dear me posted:The best reason for that is that the Greens have a democratic policy formation process, so members' opinions might be thought actually to matter a little bit. That is, in itself, a good reason to vote Green. Why are you on a debate forum if you consider all of your own opinions to be correct a priori? Personally, I think that the obsession with excess internal democracy is the reason why the British left wing has been a useless sack of poo poo for a very long time and consider that a reason not to vote for the Greens. Oh dear me posted:But if you are cynical, and think Green MPs will behave like all other MPs, and do what corporate lobbyists urge them to do, there is even less reason to worry about what some Green members think.
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Are the Greens still completely against nuclear power in all its forms? Because I have no idea how anyone can take them seriously if that's still the case.
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Saki posted:I have no idea how anyone can take them seriously if that's still the case. I'd imagine it has something to do with private companies creating mini suns that can't be turned off when something goes wrong, making the area uninhabitable for 20,000 years and causing widespread deformities and increased mortality to wildlife and humans...
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Larry_Mullet posted:I'd imagine it has something to do with private companies creating mini suns that can't be turned off when something goes wrong, making the area uninhabitable for 20,000 years and causing widespread deformities and increased mortality to wildlife and humans... That's pretty hyperbolic. Here's some info about nuclear safety I found on a quick Google search, with numbers and sources.
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Jack the Lad posted:That's pretty hyperbolic. What did I say that wasn't correct there?
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Larry_Mullet posted:What did I say that wasn't correct there? Larry_Mullet posted:I'd imagine it has something to do with private companies creating mini suns that can't be turned off when something goes wrong, making the area uninhabitable for 20,000 years and causing widespread deformities and increased mortality to wildlife and humans... Actually the Sun is powered by fusion, not fission 
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What we need to do is build a fusion plant, but it's currently beyond our technology. ....did anyone keep the number for those aliens?
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Actually the sun is powered by a dung beetle pushing a flaming ball of poo poo around  An apt metaphor for the British nation under cameregg
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Larry_Mullet posted:What did I say that wasn't correct there? Well you're clearly trying to make nuclear power sound dangerous, but it's actually significantly safer than other forms of power generation:  (Deaths from energy-related accidents per unit of electricity.)
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Larry_Mullet posted:I'd imagine it has something to do with private companies creating mini suns that can't be turned off when something goes wrong, making the area uninhabitable for 20,000 years and causing widespread deformities and increased mortality to wildlife and humans... Larry_Mullet posted:What did I say that wasn't correct there? I bolded the incorrect parts for you.
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Jack the Lad posted:Well you're clearly trying to make nuclear power sound dangerous, but it's actually significantly safer than other forms of power generation:  Source? Is there some sort of widespread suicide cult that throws themselves into dams?
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spikenigma posted:
I'd like to see a source too, but to take a wild guess I'm assuming that includes the wholesale destruction of villages caused by bombing dams in the second world war?
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spikenigma posted:Is there some sort of widespread suicide cult that throws themselves into dams?
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spikenigma posted:
I would imagine the Banqiao Dam which killed hundreds of thousands. A lot of the trouble with a catastrophic failure is it only needs to happen once, to really bump those numbers up. E: also that's deaths directly related to the accident, so nuclear wouldn't be that high unless they built a plant that exploded right next to a built up area. The indirect death toll would probably be a lot higher. Betjeman fucked around with this message at 10:33 on Apr 25, 2014 |
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Larry_Mullet posted:I'd imagine it has something to do with private companies Larry_Mullet posted:creating mini suns Larry_Mullet posted:that can't be turned off when something goes wrong Larry_Mullet posted:making the area uninhabitable for 20,000 years Larry_Mullet posted:causing widespread deformities Larry_Mullet posted:increased mortality to wildlife and humans So yeah, that post is bullshit.
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Larry_Mullet posted:I'd imagine it has something to do with private companies creating mini suns that can't be turned off when something goes wrong, making the area uninhabitable for 20,000 years and causing widespread deformities and increased mortality to wildlife and humans... What do you think we should do in the short-to-medium term to replace nuclear power?
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Larry_Mullet posted:I'd imagine it has something to do with private companies creating mini suns that can't be turned off when something goes wrong, making the area uninhabitable for 20,000 years and causing widespread deformities and increased mortality to wildlife and humans... So as I was saying, it's difficult to take people like this seriously.
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quote:Hydro power generation has a record of few but very major events causing thousands of deaths. In 1975 when the Banqiao, Shimantan & other dams collapsed in Henan, China, at least 30,000 people were killed immediately and some 230,000 overall, with 18 GWe lost. In 1979 and 1980 in India some 3500 were killed by two hydro-electric dam failures, and in 2009 in Russia 75 were killed by a hydro power plant turbine disintegration. Jack the Lad fucked around with this message at 11:20 on Apr 25, 2014 |
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