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Not fatally though, so we aren't in the kill-off-phase just yet.
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SirDan3k posted:Yeah but she and the lights were supposed to begin the slow trickle of new mutants that they had to retcon away so Iron Man could catch a case of plot born idiocy that was "the phoenix will destroy us despite all repeated evidence to the contrary and the mutants having a custom-built host ready for her. I'm a genius!"
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Apr 22, 2014 19:02
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CapnAndy posted:Fixed that for you. Yes after thirty odd years of Cyclops swinging back and forth from distrusting to outright hating the Phoenix force it was truly Iron Man who was acting out of character.
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Apr 22, 2014 20:34
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SirDan3k posted:Yes after thirty odd years of Cyclops swinging back and forth from distrusting to outright hating the Phoenix force it was truly Iron Man who was acting out of character. To be fair Cyclops main beef with the Phoenix was the threat it represented to his wife, that threat no longer being an issue by AvX. Beast had previously been shown happy to work with his genocidal twin if it meant a chance at reversing the Mutant extinction, Cyclops willingness to work with the Phoenix is hardly any nuttier. The most out of character actions were really Cap blindly allowing himself to be manipulated into antagonizing rather than working with the world's only Phoneix experts by Logan even after he realized that the latter's real plan all along was to murder a teenager (again).
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Apr 22, 2014 22:04
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SirDan3k posted:Yes after thirty odd years of Cyclops swinging back and forth from distrusting to outright hating the Phoenix force it was truly Iron Man who was acting out of character. It was still his fault.
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Apr 22, 2014 22:44
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And the idea that Cyclops would go "Oh thank god, there are 6 more mutants than there were a year ago. Best to let nature take it's course, so that on my deathbed we may have as many as one thousand mutants!" is kind of weird.
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Apr 22, 2014 22:44
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CapnAndy posted:No, Iron Man making a snap decision, deciding he's right, ignoring any contrary opinions, and acting on his snap decision to disasterous result is entirely in character. Well the alternative is the AvX What if? cannon. So Tony Stark great hero of AvX or greatest hero of AvX?
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Apr 22, 2014 23:37
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SirDan3k posted:Well the alternative is the AvX What if? cannon. So Tony Stark great hero of AvX or greatest hero of AvX? Yes. The only possible alternative is the What If? story. There are only two possibilities to any continuity turning point, the one we see, and the one in a What If?. Naturally. (pssst that is sarcasm any time you have to say 'but a What If said' to prop up an argument it's a dumb argument)
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Apr 23, 2014 00:14
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Yes. The only possible alternative is the What If? story. There are only two possibilities to any continuity turning point, the one we see, and the one in a What If?. Naturally. So in a event the only possiblites are spiderman living or spiderman dying?
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Apr 23, 2014 00:19
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:(pssst that is sarcasm any time you have to say 'but a What If said' to prop up an argument it's a dumb argument) The What if..? in no way supports my argument that Cyclops was written out of character and Hope's storyline was scrapped to facilitate AvX happening. Or is this supposed to be about which character is right? Cyclops was right, he was written to be.
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Apr 23, 2014 01:15
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Something I found a little interesting in the July solicits STORM #1 MARVEL COMICS (W) Greg Pak (A/CA) Victor Ibanez CLASSIFIED http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=52338
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Apr 23, 2014 23:28
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So reading Wolverine and the Xmen, the first run, and holy crap this is good. Though now I'm going to have to track down the Schism stuff so i know how Scott and Logans falling out happened. I feel bad because the idea of Rogue teaching grammer and diction makes me laugh too much. Gambit teaching Sex Ed is kinda creepy though. How is Uncanny X-force? I'm curious how Logans murder squad went. Also, The panels from when Deathlok sees Evan, those were reused in the current right, right?
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Apr 25, 2014 06:55
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I thought it was really good. I don't think people liked the UK Marvel arc but I love that poo poo.
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Apr 25, 2014 07:40
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The UK arc had spotty storytelling mixed in with some of the worst art I've ever seen. You can't tell what's going on most of the time. Everything else in that run is pretty gold, though. However, do not touch the follow up with Storm as the leader. It's atrocious. I really liked the other X-Force title, Cable and X-Force, but it's 90's as hell.
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Apr 25, 2014 13:14
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http://popwatch.ew.com/2014/04/25/d...eekly%2Flatest+(Entertainment+Weekly%3A++Today%27s+Latest) Wolverine is gonna die, Soule is writing
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Apr 25, 2014 14:37
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Oh hey I was just posting this. Kinda surprsied that it's Soule doing it. I guess maybe Cornell is finishing up with the book soon?quote:Marvel has been teasing a radical new development in Wolverine’s history with this summer’s story arc, “3 Months to Die,” which robs Wolverine of his healing factor, the mutant power that has kept him alive and kicking through decades of fatal injuries. Now, EW is excited to announce exclusively that “3 Months to Die” will culminate in a 4-part miniseries in September called, simply, Death of Wolverine. Written by Charles Soule and drawn by Steve McNiven, Death of Wolverine #1 hits on September 3 (that’s the cover image above.) The next three issues of the series will follow every week ensuing, climaxing with Death of Wolverine #4 on September 24.  source
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Apr 25, 2014 14:38
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Yawn.
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Apr 25, 2014 14:45
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"This is a definitive end for the character (Until 2016 when The Wolverine 2 comes out)"
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Apr 25, 2014 14:58
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I guess this will be the end of the two schools. I hope this means that Bendis does not get to write all the X-men books now. I like them, but I prefer Wolverine and the X-men already.
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Apr 25, 2014 15:01
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The correct thing for Marvel to do is start a recurring plot line of characters dying only to have their bodies taken over by Doc Ock.
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Apr 25, 2014 15:03
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If they're going to use this to end the Schism, I'd much rather they kill off Cyclops. What's going to happen to Wolverine's multiple ongoings, I wonder?
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twistedmentat posted:How is Uncanny X-force? I'm curious how Logans murder squad went. Also, The panels from when Deathlok sees Evan, those were reused in the current right, right? I'm surprised that no one told you to buy this comic right away. It's probably the best run of anything X-Men released recently. Just so long you go for the Remender run, not that 16-or-so issue series that just finished with a yawn.
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Apr 25, 2014 15:24
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irlZaphod posted:If they're going to use this to end the Schism, I'd much rather they kill off Cyclops. We will get a teen Wolverine, robot Wolverine, alien wolverine, and a real wolverine with a mullet and/or eye patch.
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Apr 25, 2014 15:26
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bobkatt013 posted:We will get a teen Wolverine, robot Wolverine, alien wolverine, and a real wolverine with a mullet and/or eye patch. I legitimately hope this happens (well, minus real wolverine).
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Apr 25, 2014 15:31
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Kaleidoscope posted:I legitimately hope this happens (well, minus real wolverine). No you don't, as they already pulled that joke in the awful Tieri Deadpool run.
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Apr 25, 2014 15:33
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Waterhaul posted:Oh hey I was just posting this. Kinda surprsied that it's Soule doing it. I guess maybe Cornell is finishing up with the book soon? Stop telling me it's raining Marvel I can see you pissing on my leg.
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Apr 25, 2014 15:35
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SirDan3k posted:Stop telling me it's raining Marvel I can see you pissing on my leg. Why? Cornell's run has been boring. You know that at the end their will be some twist that will bring him back. There is no way that Wolverine will be dead for longer than 6 months. It will be Fear Itself all over again.
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bobkatt013 posted:Why? Cornell's run has been boring. You know that at the end their will be some twist that will bring him back. There is no way that Wolverine will be dead for longer than 6 months. It will be Fear Itself all over again. Will you eat the comic he returns in if it lasts longer than 6 months?
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Apr 25, 2014 15:45
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bobkatt013 posted:Why? Cornell's run has been boring. You know that at the end their will be some twist that will bring him back. There is no way that Wolverine will be dead for longer than 6 months. It will be Fear Itself all over again. Eh, Fear Itself wasn't hyped as the death of Thor & Bucky was it? I bet this will last at least as long as Cap's death did (or until the next Fox movie, whichever comes first). The bigger question is who's gonna be surrogate Wolverine?
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Kaleidoscope posted:Eh, Fear Itself wasn't hyped as the death of Thor & Bucky was it? I bet this will last at least as long as Cap's death did (or until the next Fox movie, whichever comes first). The bigger question is who's gonna be surrogate Wolverine? X-23. As for the eating of comic I will if Wolverine remains dead longer than 6 months. Oh I am going to regret this, aren't I?
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Apr 25, 2014 15:53
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bobkatt013 posted:X-23. As for the eating of comic I will if Wolverine remains dead longer than 6 months. Oh I am going to regret this, aren't I? 
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bobkatt013 posted:X-23. As for the eating of comic I will if Wolverine remains dead longer than 6 months. Oh I am going to regret this, aren't I? I'd be more down with a Daken redemption story over X-23.
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coconono posted:I'd be more down with a Daken redemption story over X-23. Wouldn't he have to come back to life too?
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Kaleidoscope posted:Eh, Fear Itself wasn't hyped as the death of Thor & Bucky was it? I bet this will last at least as long as Cap's death did (or until the next Fox movie, whichever comes first). The bigger question is who's gonna be surrogate Wolverine? Frank Castle.
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coconono posted:I'd be more down with a Daken redemption story over X-23. That boat has sailed a long time ago. He already had his own title, and he will be back in the ground once the Uncanny Avengers storyline is over.
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Bookwise it will no doubt be X-23 or someone like that taking over Wolverine spot for a while. Though I'd be alright without someone new running around in a Wolverine costume with fake claws. I wouldn't be surprised if Wolverine and the X-Men becomes Nightcrawler and the X-Men or just gets renamed to something similar.
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Waterhaul posted:Bookwise it will no doubt be X-23 or someone like that taking over Wolverine spot for a while. Though I'd be alright without someone new running around in a Wolverine costume with fake claws. Isn't Amazing X-Men the Nightcrawler book so to speak? Not that he couldn't have two if Wolverine has like 10, but maybe it would be "Storm And The X-Men", since she's the headmaster. They've been building up her importance to the school, and the last issue had Wolverine begging her to save the school/kidpocalypse.
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IUG posted:Isn't Amazing X-Men the Nightcrawler book so to speak? Not that he couldn't have two if Wolverine has like 10, but maybe it would be "Storm And The X-Men", since she's the headmaster. They've been building up her importance to the school, and the last issue had Wolverine begging her to save the school/kidpocalypse. Amazing X-Men has 2 Nightcrawler arcs and then is going to go off and be its own thing again, I believe. There is the actual Nightcrawl book by Claremont, too. What's an X-Men title they haven't used in a while? Maybe WatXM will get the Young X-Men title.
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IUG posted:Isn't Amazing X-Men the Nightcrawler book so to speak? Not that he couldn't have two if Wolverine has like 10, but maybe it would be "Storm And The X-Men", since she's the headmaster. They've been building up her importance to the school, and the last issue had Wolverine begging her to save the school/kidpocalypse. Yeah I would have gone with Storm and the X-Men but I don't think that's a title Marvel would put out but Nightcrawler having a solo book, a team book and taking another would make him a perfect Wolverine replacement 
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Wolverine is going to die in that book, but still be alive in all the other books he's in. And great, I'll grab uncanny x-force trades once next time I got some money. Maybe i should just get Marvel unlimited, all this stuffs on there,and its only what, $60 a year?
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