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Jeffrey posted:Yeah combining this with davos going to skagos and meeting shaggy dog as the last living beings in westeros is the idea ending to me. ASOIAF ends up being a 7000-page, 30 years in the making (assuming it ever gets finished, which it won't) shaggy dog story is now officially what I'm rooting for.
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AUTOTUNED TOILET posted:ASOIAF ends up being a 7000-page, 30 years in the making (assuming it ever gets finished, which it won't) shaggy dog story is now officially what I'm rooting for. Someone post that one ending, please.
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Apr 25, 2014 14:23
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Junkenstein posted:Show should just do the 5 year time skip at the end of the season like GRUM originally planned. They've already started moving into some of those books' "events" so I think they're just going to wholesale make poo poo up next season. Should be interesting.
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So will this be the first time a screen version of a book series over takes the books? I don't mean a spin off series or something that can be considered separate (like comic book movies), I mean literally this situation where the screen version catches up to the books then becomes the official canon. VVV As far as I'm concerned which ever gets to the new content first is the official canon. Tea Bone fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Apr 25, 2014 |
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Apr 25, 2014 15:51
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It's not the official canon, GRRM has basically already disowned it this week. It's just fanfic.
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Apr 25, 2014 15:58
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Klungar posted:Someone post that one ending, please. HBO needs to just adapt that wh40k/asoiaf fan fic and amp up the crazy.
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Apr 25, 2014 18:01
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As long as they don't use ultramarines.
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Trast posted:HBO needs to just adapt that wh40k/asoiaf fan fic and amp up the crazy. I was so disappointed when the Pykemen didn't become Khornite 'zerkers. BLOOD FOR THE DROWNED GOD  edit: Anyone have a link to that bad boy? I remember a totally bad rear end scene where the Emperium's ambassador to Sunspear show's Doran Tyrell a real "sun spear" (orbital strike) and Tyrell's just like, "lol gently caress that poo poo, where do I sign?" Mr. Bad Guy fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Apr 25, 2014 |
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Apr 25, 2014 20:17
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Mr. Bad Guy posted:I was so disappointed when the Pykemen didn't become Khornite 'zerkers. this thread needs its own drat wiki
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Apr 25, 2014 21:20
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kcroy posted:this thread needs its own drat wiki Someone should put up a tumbler or instantgram whatever the kids use for this poo poo of all the lemoncakes this thread has made.
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Apr 25, 2014 21:26
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I'm a little surprised there isn't one for Game of Bones at least(or is there?)
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Pong Daddy posted:I'm a little surprised there isn't one for Game of Bones at least(or is there?) A mere wiki is beneath that, it must needs be studied in academic Literary Studies departments around the globe.
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Joramun posted:A mere wiki is beneath that, it must needs be studied in academic Literary Studies departments around the globe. You should have to read through the 1st iteration of TBT in its entirety before posting here. edit: I think ASOIAF is already included in many Women's Studies programs! kcroy fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Apr 25, 2014 |
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AUTOTUNED TOILET posted:ASOIAF ends up being a 7000-page, 30 years in the making (assuming it ever gets finished, which it won't) shaggy dog story is now officially what I'm rooting for. I didn't realize a "shaggy dog" story was a thing... "The audience listens to the story with certain expectations, which are either simply not met or met in some entirely unexpected manner.[1] A lengthy shaggy dog story derives its humour from the fact that the joke-teller held the attention of the listeners for a long time (such jokes can take five minutes or more to tell) for no reason at all, as the end resolution is essentially meaningless.[2]" And am now convinced more than ever that GRRM is the most amazing literary troll ever.
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theory about the Others: http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/23p48r/the_true_nature_and_purpose_of_the_others_and_the/ quote:The Others are moving south because Men violated an ancient pact with them. The Night's King story is an account of how the War for the Dawn ended, in a peace sealed by marriage. Daenerys and her dragons are a dangerous force of chaos that threatens to destabilized the world, and the Others are hostile towards Men because of their betrayal of the Night's King and overthrow of his line, their incursion into the Other's agreed on terrritory, and the danger the Targs and their fire magic pose to the Others and the world at large. Rhaegar fathered a son by Lyanna to unite the blood of the dragonriders and the Other-kin, whether he knew it or not. Jon is that son and will bring peace between the Others and the realms of men. Something about this theory I really like - That Rhaegar raped(?) Lyanna for a very specific reason - we are told how great, wise, etc he was. He was a scholar, until one day BAM he had to become a warrior, and then he did what needed to be done... this is the exact type of person who would do something horrible ( rape / war / etc ) to save his kingdom. It also grooves with the theory that he actually was the Prince who was Promised ( although I don't think that post discusses it ).
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kcroy posted:theory about the Others: I read this the other day when it was linked in the spoilers thread. Had forgotten about Rhaegar's childhood transmogrification there, nice point. Unrelated: http://www.dorkly.com/article/61955/10-differences-between-the-game-of-thrones-books-vs-the-tv-show
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kcroy posted:theory about the Others: Main problem with this theory is that they moved south and started attacking months before Daenerys hatched her dragons.
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Mr. Bad Guy posted:I was so disappointed when the Pykemen didn't become Khornite 'zerkers. Here you go. As for Khorne, I actually had the idea for the Ironborn religion to be a remnant of the Imperial Cult, with the Drowned God being based on the Emperor (dead but never dying), but I couldn't figure out how to work it in. I am really happy that people enjoyed the story, seriously. Part of me pities the GRRM, who has a series that is loved by so many, yet he can't find sufficient joy in their admiration to motivate him to write more. To think of losing that sense of "Someone likes what I wrote  " is really quite sad.
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Kylaer posted:Here you go. As for Khorne, I actually had the idea for the Ironborn religion to be a remnant of the Imperial Cult, with the Drowned God being based on the Emperor (dead but never dying), but I couldn't figure out how to work it in. He seems like he's having a good time not writing.  He isn't our bitch, after all, and that pressing weight of having to finish the series has been lifted from his shoulders.
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Kylaer posted:I am really happy that people enjoyed the story, seriously. whowhatwhere posted:Main problem with this theory is that they moved south and started attacking months before Daenerys hatched her dragons. They only moved south killing wildlings, right? Maybe they are just cleaning house. but over all, I agree that I dont think dragons are the reason. I don't think we've gotten enough background to determine why they are all active.. I mean perhaps the dragons came back b/c of the others, or perhaps it was just the onset of a "long winter" that is bringing them out, or who knows - that poo poo is wiiiide open. But there is definitely (maybe) an end game planned with the Others - and I like to think it is a bit more than "others = bad". But who knows, when he started writing this poo poo back in the 90's, he was already including enough edgy/grrmdark material already,... maybe having some traditional poo poo going on is a necessary backdrop. There are definitely some standard fantasy tropes that he isn't flipping around. It really is too bad it has taken him so long... goody goody main characters like Jon just seem boring as poo poo now. I would like to think that the "no good and evil, it's all perspective" theme continues into a larger war with others/dragons, and an even larger meta war between gods, each side claiming to be the one true, etc etc. I've always thought the best ( and most realistic) ending to this series is a constant state of war between factions. It gives him an easy out ( doesn't need to wrap everything up perfectly ) , lets the IP live on in a million ways, and because you know, the Game is the Game. sorta like this http://vimeo.com/49613968 kcroy fucked around with this message at 07:49 on Apr 26, 2014 |
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Does anyone have that image which charted various phrases and words used throughout the books. Like showing how "nuncle" and "words are wind" weren't used in the first 2/3 books, then all of a sudden hundreds of uses.
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syscall girl posted:Unrelated: http://www.dorkly.com/article/61955/10-differences-between-the-game-of-thrones-books-vs-the-tv-show I like how the list starts of reasonable, goes gloriously insane, then ends with a couple of tepid jokes. And gently caress you for linking to Dorkly, goddamn.
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kcroy posted:theory about the Others: This is a great theory but too many holes. The last dragons were maybe what, three or four hundred years ago? And Sam mentioned at one point that White Walkers haven't been spotted for a thousand years. This either insinuates that the White Walkers are REALLY slow at marching or didn't care about about the Targ dragons before Dany's. Why march for Dany and not the other dragons? Why do hers break this unspoken of pact and not her ancestor's? Again, not anyone's fault but GRRM's bad story telling that would rather focus on travel logs and food porn than actually putting the pieces of the puzzle together in a meaningful manner. Where do whores go anyways?
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Hunky Joe posted:This is a great theory but too many holes. The last dragons were maybe what, three or four hundred years ago? The last dragon died about 100 years before the show begins.
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Gianthogweed posted:The last dragon died about 100 years before the show begins. You can't know that for sure, it was never confirmed if and when Sheepstealer died. So 100 years could just be hearsay or folklore.
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Joramun posted:You can't know that for sure, it was never confirmed if and when Sheepstealer died. So 100 years could just be hearsay or folklore. I'm pretty sure that in the scene where Joffrey is showing Sansa the throne room, the youngest dragon skull is 100 years old.
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Tea Bone posted:Does anyone have that image which charted various phrases and words used throughout the books. Like showing how "nuncle" and "words are wind" weren't used in the first 2/3 books, then all of a sudden hundreds of uses. This one? Doesn't have nuncle, though.  kcroy posted:were you the person that like.. went to college then and went to medical school... throughout various iterations of this thread? Glad you liked the story! Yes, I was in medical school during the pre-DWD era of the Bad Thread. I'll finish residency next summer. I started reading this series in highschool 
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Gianthogweed posted:I'm pretty sure that in the scene where Joffrey is showing Sansa the throne room, the youngest dragon skull is 100 years old. Maybe the Others didn't get the raven telling then about that one. Westeros has a bad postal system and it might not have gotten properly forwarded.
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Joramun posted:You can't know that for sure, it was never confirmed if and when Sheepstealer died. So 100 years could just be hearsay or folklore.
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Tea Bone posted:Does anyone have that image which charted various phrases and words used throughout the books. Like showing how "nuncle" and "words are wind" weren't used in the first 2/3 books, then all of a sudden hundreds of uses. I think I know the one you mean, I'll see if I can find the link. Edit: Here it is.
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whowhatwhere posted:Main problem with this theory is that they moved south and started attacking months before Daenerys hatched her dragons. The other problem with it is that they were content to do nothing when the Targs first arrived with a bunch of fullgrown dragons. Why is Dany different?
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unlimited shrimp posted:The other problem with it is that they were content to do nothing when the Targs first arrived with a bunch of fullgrown dragons. Why is Dany different?
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unlimited shrimp posted:The other problem with it is that they were content to do nothing when the Targs first arrived with a bunch of fullgrown dragons. Why is Dany different? Because they were given life using blood magic  I'm just playing devil's advocate this theory sounds all sorts of screwy.
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The others don't give a poo poo about balance, they just want to reclaim the lands they were banished from aka "what is rightfully theirs" same as pretty much every other faction in ASOIAF.
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Aston posted:I think I know the one you mean, I'll see if I can find the link. Also leal which just springs fully formed like Athena or Vectron into the setting from someones head.
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HidaO-Win posted:Also leal which just springs fully formed like Athena or Vectron into the setting from someones head.
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Urdnot Fire posted:Same with "he/she was not wrong", "nipples on a breastplate", and "serjeant". Mayhaps you'd like a rasher of bacon with a side of neeps to tide you over in gaol. -The American Tolkien
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