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If I were an owner of any pro sports team the first thing I would do is either buy out the Phoenix Suns training staff or pay them to teach my staff everything they do, including but not limited to instructions on how to build the lazarus pit they must use.
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The NFL is considering extending the draft to four days.
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Apr 25, 2014 18:19
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korrandark posted:[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000344129/article/roger-goodell-nfl-draft-could-increase-to-four-days] The NFL is considering extending the draft to four days. Attaboy Rog!! Keep it up!
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Apr 25, 2014 18:27
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Go gently caress yourself, NFL. It's already stretched too thin. Nobody but die hards watch on saturday anyway.
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Apr 25, 2014 18:34
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Febreeze posted:Go gently caress yourself, NFL. It's already stretched too thin. Nobody but die hards watch on saturday anyway. So it doesn't affect us? I mean, what else are we going to watch in late April before hockey playoffs start in the evening?
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Apr 25, 2014 18:36
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bhsman posted:I was really high on Mack until I watched his Ohio State and Baylor games. He'd be a great ILB (and a monster with Lavonte David in Tampa Bay), but he gets held up by decent Tackles too much. In no way is he an ILB. Mack is a classic strongside linebacker.
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Apr 25, 2014 18:36
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If you're drafting Mack top 10 and sticking him at ILB you might be fired on the spot. That's like making clowney a DT
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Apr 25, 2014 18:38
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7 day draft. A round a day. Picks have 45 minute counters.
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Apr 25, 2014 18:39
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How would you even split the days up then? 1-2-2-2, and give equal coverage of the 6th and 7th rounds as you would the 2nd and 3rd? 1-1-2-3, and drag out the early rounds way too long?
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Apr 25, 2014 18:39
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I still can't believe they hosed up the draft weekend. It was so perfect the way it was.
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Apr 25, 2014 18:43
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Isn't his coverage pretty much uncharted territory anyways? He seems to have the tools to be solid though. If he goes to Oakland at 5, I'm not really sure how that works, because we have Sio Moore at sam, and I'm not really sold on either of them at the will spot. Moore definitely deserves to be on the field as well.
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Apr 25, 2014 18:45
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sirtommygunn posted:How would you even split the days up then? 1-2-2-2, and give equal coverage of the 6th and 7th rounds as you would the 2nd and 3rd? 1-1-2-3, and drag out the early rounds way too long? Day 1: Round 1, 15 minute clock Day 2: Round 2, 10 minute clock Day 3: Rounds 3-4, 7 minute clock Day 4: Rounds 5-7, 5 minute clock
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Apr 25, 2014 19:07
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Gah, I hate 15 minute clocks. It takes foreveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer.
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Apr 25, 2014 19:11
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Doltos posted:In no way is he an ILB. Mack is a classic strongside linebacker. AAA DOLFAN posted:If you're drafting Mack top 10 and sticking him at ILB you might be fired on the spot. That's like making clowney a DT I was thinking more 3-4 ILB, but go watch his Ohio State and Baylor games and see how he does against non-MAC tackles. As soon as hands are on him he's usually stuck there.
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Apr 25, 2014 19:12
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bhsman posted:I was thinking more 3-4 ILB, but go watch his Ohio State and Baylor games and see how he does against non-MAC tackles. As soon as hands are on him he's usually stuck there. 3-4 ILB is even worse. They're just thumpers, usually, whose main goal is to occupy guards and centers, although the SAM ILB is usually in charge of picking up TEs and crossing routes. Still a waste considering Mack is all about defeats which is why I like him as a prospect so much. You kinda want him operating at the line of scrimmage and diagnosing plays as he sees them. That pretty much completely slots him as a strong side LB in either scheme.
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Apr 25, 2014 19:25
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Doltos posted:3-4 ILB is even worse. They're just thumpers, usually, whose main goal is to occupy guards and centers, although the SAM ILB is usually in charge of picking up TEs and crossing routes. Still a waste considering Mack is all about defeats which is why I like him as a prospect so much. You kinda want him operating at the line of scrimmage and diagnosing plays as he sees them. That pretty much completely slots him as a strong side LB in either scheme. Mack's defeats is what I was considering; I just liked the idea of him blitzing some middle gap a la Ray Lewis and doin' cool things. 
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Apr 25, 2014 19:27
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Shath Hole posted:Gah, I hate 15 minute clocks. It takes foreveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer. Goodell is the one that reduced the first round from 15 minutes to 10. He's not going to extend it again.
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Apr 25, 2014 19:39
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Febreeze posted:Go gently caress yourself, NFL. It's already stretched too thin. Nobody but die hards watch on saturday anyway. I'll have you know I watch every minute of it. I've got half a dozen draft guides printed out, got my dynasty fantasy rankings out so I can use situation based tiebreakers before my rookie drafts, I take vacation on Thursday/Friday so I don't get trapped at work and miss the start and clear my weekend schedule. I even record both the ESPN and NFL feeds so I can see what the different talking heads have to say. I'm going to die cold and alone.
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Apr 25, 2014 19:51
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Azhais posted:I'll have you know I watch every minute of it. I've got half a dozen draft guides printed out, got my dynasty fantasy rankings out so I can use situation based tiebreakers before my rookie drafts, I take vacation on Thursday/Friday so I don't get trapped at work and miss the start and clear my weekend schedule. I even record both the ESPN and NFL feeds so I can see what the different talking heads have to say. 
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Apr 25, 2014 19:52
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Who would want to spend days waiting in anticipation to hear each pick exactly when they happen? It's an hour to hear four and eight to get through round one. You could check Sunday night and get the full summary in minutes rather then stretching it to like 30 hours filled with ads and talking heads sprouting nonsense about prospects they don't have anything intelligent to say about anyway, as if that wasn't going to occupy the entirety of every online football related site's coverage til training camp anyway. Wanna see that day four green room tho. With any luck we can get some newly christened udfas melt down on national tv.
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Apr 25, 2014 20:13
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Stretching it out is a dick move I think. When I spoke with Seyi Ajirotutu he had mentioned that the Chargers called him in around round 6 and said "Get Ready" and then they never drafted him. That all sucks and I can't imagine having to wait days
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Apr 25, 2014 20:16
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SlipUp posted:Who would want to spend days waiting in anticipation to hear each pick exactly when they happen? It's an hour to hear four and eight to get through round one. You could check Sunday night and get the full summary in minutes rather then stretching it to like 30 hours filled with ads and talking heads sprouting nonsense about prospects they don't have anything intelligent to say about anyway, as if that wasn't going to occupy the entirety of every online football related site's coverage til training camp anyway. Don't UDFAs regularly get better contracts than 7th round players? Plus they get to pick what team they sign with.
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Azhais posted:I'll have you know I watch every minute of it. I've got half a dozen draft guides printed out, got my dynasty fantasy rankings out so I can use situation based tiebreakers before my rookie drafts, I take vacation on Thursday/Friday so I don't get trapped at work and miss the start and clear my weekend schedule. I even record both the ESPN and NFL feeds so I can see what the different talking heads have to say. This would be the aforementioned die hards
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Apr 25, 2014 20:43
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Blitz7x posted:Stretching it out is a dick move I think. When I spoke with Seyi Ajirotutu he had mentioned that the Chargers called him in around round 6 and said "Get Ready" and then they never drafted him. That all sucks and I can't imagine having to wait days Seyi freaking owns
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Apr 25, 2014 20:44
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Extending the draft to four days is probably a ratings things. I bet if the NFL had it their way there would be a game every weeknight during primetime and they would be swimming in oceans of ad money.
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Apr 25, 2014 21:08
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Democrazy posted:Don't UDFAs regularly get better contracts than 7th round players? Plus they get to pick what team they sign with. AFAIK most UDFA jump at the first opportunity they get because they know their chances are slim anyway. I cant see many guys saying "Well I didn't get drafted but sorry Cleveland, I think I'll wait on an offer from Seattle or New England and maybe get back to you." Also 7th rounders get 4yr contracts don't they? It's rare for a UDFA to get paid more than a drafted player.
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Apr 25, 2014 21:21
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quote:@AlbertBreer 3m gently caress it, put Clowney on kick returns.
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Disillusionist posted:AFAIK most UDFA jump at the first opportunity they get because they know their chances are slim anyway. I cant see many guys saying "Well I didn't get drafted but sorry Cleveland, I think I'll wait on an offer from Seattle or New England and maybe get back to you." They'll both be making right around the league minimum. What I suspect Democrazy is thinking of is that some teams will pay a larger bonus to coveted UDFA's to get them to sign, and for these guys, the difference between a $5k signing bonus and a $20k can be pretty loving huge. 7th round draft picks on the other hand average around a $50k signing bonus as I recall.
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Disillusionist posted:AFAIK most UDFA jump at the first opportunity they get because they know their chances are slim anyway. I cant see many guys saying "Well I didn't get drafted but sorry Cleveland, I think I'll wait on an offer from Seattle or New England and maybe get back to you." How many years is a typical UDFA contract, though? If you were a gem in the rough it would be better to get a 1 year deal than the 4 year deals the 7th rounders are locked into. If you fall out of the league it won't matter either way, since that "4 year contract" is really just the team's obligation to pay IF THEY KEEP YOU.
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Apr 25, 2014 21:47
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DupaDupa posted:
Yes but kick return coverage. Can you imagine seeing that coming at you full speed on kick returns?
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Apr 25, 2014 21:48
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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports that Indiana WR Cody Latimer had a private workout with the Philadelphia Eagles today. drat that dude's rising into the 1st now.
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Apr 25, 2014 21:49
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Only 50k signing bonus what the gently caress kind of jobs do you people have that you're scoffing at 50k? You get that signing bonus you save every penny and then you're at the same level as that udfa who is being auditioned for a starting offensive guard position with the dolphins
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Apr 25, 2014 21:53
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My job came with a no dollar signing bonus with no health benefits and I had to work my way up to 40k a year with dental and health covered. I am so loving thankful for this job too.
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AAA DOLFAN posted:Only 50k signing bonus what the gently caress kind of jobs do you people have that you're scoffing at 50k? You get that signing bonus you save every penny and then you're at the same level as that udfa who is being auditioned for a starting offensive guard position with the dolphins Yeah, didn't Burfict get like $750 signing bonus as a UDFA? And they had to really beg for it so he could afford to move to Cincinnati?
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DupaDupa posted:
God drat the Texans better draft Clowney e: Albert Breer @AlbertBreer 25m Sparta founder Phil Wagner laughed reading Clowney's results. Speed graded similar to Hester, strength was at average for an NFL o-lineman. Intruder fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Apr 25, 2014 |
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Apr 25, 2014 22:01
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My basic point was that making the squad moots the difference between being a 7th round draft pick and being an UDFA. In the context of the NFL (the same context that lets most of us say things like "Blaine Gabbert is a bad QB) $50k really isn't that much.
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Apr 25, 2014 22:07
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What do the teams think of the extra day? Would it make a big difference to them?
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I know Atlanta trading up for Clowney makes for a great story, but I just can't see it happening. Everything ATL did in free agency felt like they were trying to get more overall depth after TB couldn't infect them with MRSA, but still found a way to give them terrible injury luck. Julio Jones is still amazing, Roddy White might still be 80% of the player he was, and Douglas was a pleasant surprise. But what about that terrible offensive line. What about the hole at tight end? If they draft Clowney after for so many years playing the "Lets bet our future on singing vets" game, how does that help a team that desperately needs new young talent? If I look at it as wanting to see a divisional opponent crash and burn, then go for it. While no one is gonna draft running backs with high draft picks, I don't know how I feel about any of the ATL running backs. All this probing on Clowney has to be a smoke screen from them to pacify their fans who just want the team to draft someone with name recognition.
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waah posted:I know Atlanta trading up for Clowney makes for a great story, but I just can't see it happening. Everything ATL did in free agency felt like they were trying to get more overall depth after TB couldn't infect them with MRSA, but still found a way to give them terrible injury luck. Julio Jones is still amazing, Roddy White might still be 80% of the player he was, and Douglas was a pleasant surprise. Hahah how the gently caress is Tampa the team that gave Atlanta the injury bug? The Falcons came into the season already injured and each of the first 5 games saw them losing more people. Also everyone here buys the story not because it "makes for a great story" but because its consistent with TD's drafting. He's done this sort of thing before.
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And its the reason they're struggling now. The falcons that drafted Julio Jones believed they were one piece away from the Super Bowl, and they were almost right. This is not that team and I doubt TD is stupid enough to think it is.
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