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Countdown to fanart of panel four with furious blushing and stammering. Cordelia you idiot! It's not like he likes you or anything!
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So if NK and Cordelia aren't the villains of this story, then who is? My money is on the Oracle.
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Apr 26, 2014 06:58
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Oz posted:So if NK and Cordelia aren't the villains of this story, then who is? You haven't seen Bacon power up to his true form.
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Apr 26, 2014 07:07
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Oz posted:So if NK and Cordelia aren't the villains of this story, then who is? My money is on the Oracle. We are.  We are 'cause we expect there to be a narrative of black-and-white, and force characters into their roles against their dreams and desires. The clearest examples are Cucumber, Almond, and Nightmare Knight. Not really, it's actually GG, she's setting up the dominoes to crush all of us nerds. The avatars of her will are the Oracle and Cabbage. Also doubling down on this arc ending with Dubblenight and Cabbage becoming besties. 
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Apr 26, 2014 08:14
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Honestly, I'm still banking on Cucumber pulling a Protoman and giving up on a system that refuses to change. But even then, he'd still be a protagonist, just a kind of tragic, Byronic one. The Oracle is probably the antagonist, no matter what happens. Everyone else is either really into their roles or quietly resenting them. DO's the only one we've seen who's blase about it. Edit for more rampant speculation: The "it's happened a hundred times" secret feels like the kind of convenient half-truth you tell to cover up a bigger secret/lie. You admit that you were looking at porn to hide that you were looking at gay midget porn, or whatever. girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 08:33 on Apr 26, 2014 |
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Apr 26, 2014 08:27
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Poison Mushroom posted:Honestly, I'm still banking on Cucumber pulling a Protoman and giving up on a system that refuses to change. But even then, he'd still be a protagonist, just a kind of tragic, Byronic one. I think it sounds more Cucumber to find a way to break the cycle without having to play into the system; do it diplomacy style or something. Redeem the Nightmare Knight, embarrass the hell out of his sister, tell the Oracle to go eat a big heaping plate of dicks. Parfait's already covered Teaching Him The Meaning Of Friendship.
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Apr 26, 2014 10:43
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NK may know what friends are but that doesn't mean he has any no matter how much he'd like some. LET HIM WATCH THE SHOW!
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Apr 26, 2014 11:57
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The Oracle is definitely coming off as the enforcer of the cycle, as opposed to NK who seems more to be going through the motions of something he's trapped by. But that's not necessarily true, it's just that Gigi hasn't shown us any chinks in the Oracle's armor, whereas we've seen quite a lot in NK's case.
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Apr 26, 2014 12:57
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I don't know, I'd say her putting up the barrier to save the town so that the "heros" can move forward through the "plot" would be a major flaw.
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Apr 26, 2014 15:04
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 Oh no, they're cute
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Apr 26, 2014 16:48
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I like how the movie night sketch has Cordelia, Peridot and Cabbage taking part too. 
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Apr 26, 2014 16:50
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IUG posted:I don't know, I'd say her putting up the barrier to save the town so that the "heros" can move forward through the "plot" would be a major flaw. She didn't though. She took the credit for it but that was clearly
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Apr 26, 2014 17:21
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Of course Nightmare Knight would choose the star patterned blouse.
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Apr 26, 2014 17:28
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Oz posted:So if NK and Cordelia aren't the villains of this story, then who is? My money is on the Oracle.
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Apr 26, 2014 18:12
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Dragonatrix posted:I like how the movie night sketch has Cordelia, Peridot and Cabbage taking part too. Cabbage also seems to be riding the rollercoaster.
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Apr 26, 2014 18:16
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That's Tomato.
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Apr 26, 2014 18:20
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That makes much more sense. I think I understand why NK is so sad as well. He doesn't have a fabulous wardrobe like everyone else. Dude just wants to feel like a princess.
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Apr 26, 2014 18:39
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Tollymain posted:She didn't though. She took the credit for it but that was clearly Wow, I missed that when I read that first (but then again, I read this whole comic in one slow day at work). I didn't notice the barrier had the colors of NK, and the oracle just showed up right after that. I thought it was really her, thus her sweating and being exhausted, I thought she just wore herself out overextending herself. It really makes what Noisemaster said after that make a lot more sense. Thanks.
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Prediction: After seeing the bond Cordelia has with Peridot Nightmare night is inspired to try awkwardly bonding with the remaining disaster masters. Hilarty ensues. I only wish Noisemaster and Mutemaster were around so the three of them could go do karaoke together..
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The Nightmare Knight isn't going to try awkwardly bonding with anybody. He doesn't need to be taught the power of friendship; he knows, after all, what the word means. There's some reason why he needs to be "the villain" - if the princess considers him a friend, if Cordelia is comfortable criticizing him openly, that means (among other things) that he's not being scary enough. He has "learned nothing" about how to live up to the role - he can talk the talk, but although he threatens the world and insists that he's bad news, he's never followed through on anything malicious. What exactly has gone too far? Why does he seem to hope to gain something from talking to the hero? When Cucumber's companions address him with braggadocio and bluster, he puts the fear of God into them, and he's still very explicit that the job of the Disaster Masters is to stop the hero; he'll let them attempt but not succeed at destroying anything. A theme I notice is the difference between the perception and reality of freedom. Cucumber's been forced into his role as the hero; he can go anywhere except where he wants. The Dream Sword seals the Nightmare Knight away, and the Disaster Masters are imprisoned in the Disaster Stones; they capture princesses to prevent them from signing the Dream Sword's scabbard, meaning the implicit assumption (one which the Dream Oracle, the obvious antagonist, intentionally perpetuates) is that both sides cannot simultaneously be at liberty. Cabbage voluntarily lives in a prison cell for some reason. In addition to being a space fugitive, Cordelia is a bit unclear on just who's in charge of whom. Mightn't it be the case that the Nightmare Knight is voluntarily perpetuating the cycle, for what he sees as a good cause? Like, maybe his goal is to keep the Disaster Masters preoccupied with relatively small tasks like kidnapping princesses, so that not only are they prevented from causing, well, disasters, but they don't even realize they can't do it. He plays the villain in this farce so that more enthusiastic bad guys become his subordinates, whom he can keep in line. The Nightmare Knight was probably the first Legendary Hero.
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Bongo Bill posted:The Nightmare Knight isn't going to try awkwardly bonding with anybody. He doesn't need to be taught the power of friendship; he knows, after all, what the word means. There's some reason why he needs to be "the villain" - if the princess considers him a friend, if Cordelia is comfortable criticizing him openly, that means (among other things) that he's not being scary enough. He has "learned nothing" about how to live up to the role - he can talk the talk, but although he threatens the world and insists that he's bad news, he's never followed through on anything malicious. This is basically TTGL and Nightmare King is the Spiral King, got it. I look forward to mecha fights with the moon.
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Apr 26, 2014 22:18
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Don't do that. You're going to get Almond and Nautilus killed.
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This thread's theories are pretty weird. Cucumber's not going to turn into a brooding angst nerd and nobody needs to own Almond because she already does a pretty good job of owning herself. A pretty big theme of the comic so far is optimism in the face of defeat, and I don't think it's going to stray from that. 
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Well, so far we've seen 3 Masters and NK himself. - Splashmaster is very strong, but only physically. And he's really, really dense. He's just a big childish jerk, but that's dangerous enough I guess? - Noisemaster can shoot energy beams. He seems like a pretty cool dude though. I'd be willing to annihilate a castle if I had to put up with 99 iterations of Legendary Heroes too. Normally I don't see he'd be a threat. - Mutemaster seems like a cool dude but hulks out at loud noises. Dangerous if you're an rear end in a top hat to him, I suppose. They don't seem quite so dangerous as to need to be trapped into a eternal cycle of imprisonment and beatings though.
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I like the theory that this all just a show for the Gods or the equivalent of and The Oracle and NK have to stick to the script lest the Gods come down and the world suffers their wrath. That's why NK wouldn't let Noisemaster kill anyone and why The Oracle starts freaking out when Cucumber starts questioning things, neither are evil they are just forced into their roles in order to protect the world.
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Accordion Man posted:I like the theory that this all just a show for the Gods or the equivalent of and The Oracle and NK have to stick to the script lest the Gods come down and the world suffers their wrath. That's why NK wouldn't let Noisemaster kill anyone and why The Oracle starts freaking out when Cucumber starts questioning things, neither are evil they are just forced into their roles in order to protect the world. Bongo Bill posted:The Nightmare Knight was probably the first Legendary Hero. snucks fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Apr 27, 2014 |
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Apr 27, 2014 04:12
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snucks posted:Maybe it's a Venture Bros deal where the Big Bad is actually a decent dude who keeps the lesser evils in check. Whatever the case, it definitely feels like Gigi had the twist figured out coming into this. Isn't the big bad in Venture Bros David Bowie? M-maybe the big bad in Cucumber Quest is David Bowie.
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Oz posted:So if NK and Cordelia aren't the villains of this story, then who is? My money is on the Oracle. 
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Apr 27, 2014 04:38
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The second panel of this comic is so pretty. Just look at her.
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Kikas posted:The second panel of this comic is so pretty. Just look at her. The second to last panel in the previous page is also gold. It's great to see how a series that started solidly has improved so much.
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nerdbot posted:This thread's theories are pretty weird. Cucumber's not going to turn into a brooding angst nerd and nobody needs to own Almond because she already does a pretty good job of owning herself. A pretty big theme of the comic so far is optimism in the face of defeat, and I don't think it's going to stray from that.
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Apr 27, 2014 15:22
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http://cucumber.gigidigi.com/cq/page-500/ Peridot: Sassmaster
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Apr 27, 2014 15:40
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Even the largest nerd is able to be crushed.
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Apr 27, 2014 15:41
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I know this almost certainly isn't how it went, but I kind of like to think Peridot came in screaming and hysterical on purpose to get the NK to lay off.
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Apr 27, 2014 16:04
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nightmare knight cant catch a break!
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Apr 27, 2014 16:14
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"Now that the interlude is half over..." it's time for the other half, Nightmare Knight and Cabbage party 
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Apr 27, 2014 16:15
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Never has a villain been so tragic. BRING ON THE CABBAGE!
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https://twitter.com/gigideegee/status/460428300339249152quote:thank you for joining me for cucumber quest interlude 2 part 1, in which the nightmare knight gets owned repeatedly and mercilessly
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Coming soon: Cucumber Quest Interlude 2 Part 2 Act 5 Act 1 Intermission 3 Act 4
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RickoniX posted:Coming soon: Cucumber Quest Interlude 2 Part 2 Act 5 Act 1 Intermission 3 Act 4 And eventually we get the exapause, through which this fandom of nerds implodes and crushes itself.
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