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Relentlessboredomm posted:Its not 100% by any means, my bad for being unclear about it. All early indications are that its fairly lopsided against unionizing something like 60-15. Well to that I say "pooh".
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McAlister posted:So let's sum up some facts. My mom always fretted during 2008 that the GOP would be successful at painting Obama as elitist. To which I always replied: Obama is not elitist; he is an authentic American elite.
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The Palin Presidency quote:Speaking Saturday at the National Rifle Association's "Stand And Fight" rally at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis, the former Alaska governor and 2008 GOP vice presidential candidate accused the Obama administration of instating counterterrorism policies that "coddle adversaries." http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk4dD2L0RTk
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:The Palin Presidency Well, at least she loves America! 
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Apr 27, 2014 22:46
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"America's most perfect blueprint." Except that part about wishing black people were still slaves.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:The Palin Presidency quote:"Come on. Enemies, who would utterly annihilate America, they who'd obviously have information on plots, to carry out Jihad. Oh, but you can't offend them, can't make them feel uncomfortable, not even a smidgen," She certainly has her own speaking style. Try to hear those words in McCain's voice. Can't do it.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:The Palin Presidency I guess she wants to get baptized
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Crossposting some news from the football forum. I especially like how no action of any kind will be taken against the people that engaged in this poo poo because hating labor is a bipartisan feeling. Guessing the former players that tried to talk them down aren't in the NFL? I can't imagine the NFL player's union being cool with any members doing that, unless labor is hosed beyond comprehension.
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Evil Fluffy posted:I especially like how no action of any kind will be taken against the people that engaged in this poo poo because hating labor is a bipartisan feeling. Guessing the former players that tried to talk them down aren't in the NFL? I can't imagine the NFL player's union being cool with any members doing that, unless labor is hosed beyond comprehension. There is very little doubt that post-football careers were former football alumni holding the sweet carrot of a white collar work out to the players, as compared to the stick of having to work as an assistant head coach for your old high school because all you were able to graduate with given the time constraints of being a college football player was a useless Physical Exercise degree.
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Evil Fluffy posted:I especially like how no action of any kind will be taken against the people that engaged in this poo poo because hating labor is a bipartisan feeling. Guessing the former players that tried to talk them down aren't in the NFL? I can't imagine the NFL player's union being cool with any members doing that, unless labor is hosed beyond comprehension. LABOR IS hosed BEYOND COMPREHENSION
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:The Palin Presidency Somebody should challenge her to get waterboarded and prove how tame it is.
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more friedman units posted:Somebody should challenge her to get waterboarded and prove how tame it is.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Didn't a journalist or someone volunteer to have it done to them and was like "yep, it feels like dying"? That would be everyone's favorite neocon warhawk, Christopher Hitchens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LPubUCJv58. Although some people have claimed that it was faked.
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I don't think she thinks it's tame; I think she knows it's torture and is in favor of torturing terrorists. At least that's how the quote reads to me.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Didn't a journalist or someone volunteer to have it done to them and was like "yep, it feels like dying"? Predictably enough, torture advocates took that as a positive; "Gee, if it's that bad then surely the Bad Guystm will be that much more likely to tell us what they know!" mdemone posted:I don't think she thinks it's tame; I think she knows it's torture and is in favor of torturing terrorists. At least that's how the quote reads to me. Also, this.
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mdemone posted:I don't think she thinks it's tame; I think she knows it's torture and is in favor of torturing terrorists. At least that's how the quote reads to me.
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Rap Record Hoarder posted:That would be everyone's favorite neocon warhawk, Christopher Hitchens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LPubUCJv58.  I could watch Hitch get waterboarded all day.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Saw this chart the other day and its helpful in illuminating some of the reasons for skyrocketing tuition costs: Interesting to see liberal states like California with such big cuts also. Is this because of an unstoppable changing tide of colleges being run more as businesses, or are there other factors?
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Telesphorus posted:Interesting to see liberal states like California with such big cuts also. Is this because of an unstoppable changing tide of colleges being run more as businesses, or are there other factors? We have quite an issue with our state prison system.
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:We have quite an issue with our state prison system. Also there was that massive budget deficit.
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Telesphorus posted:Interesting to see liberal states like California with such big cuts also. Is this because of an unstoppable changing tide of colleges being run more as businesses, or are there other factors? It's probably worth noting that % change is not absolute value change:  from here: http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=3927
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mdemone posted:I don't think she thinks it's tame; I think she knows it's torture and is in favor of torturing terrorists. At least that's how the quote reads to me. Anyone in favor of torture is literally a terrorist. Sarah Palin admits she's a terrorist.
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Telesphorus posted:Interesting to see liberal states like California with such big cuts also. Is this because of an unstoppable changing tide of colleges being run more as businesses, or are there other factors? A combination of massive budget deficits from the recession, a highly dysfunctional state government paralyzed by a Republican minority and a lovely system of direct democracy initiatives, and boomers who got a massive leg up from the states excellent public higher education having no problem at all pulling the ladder up after them. And the notion of running colleges as businesses is a big thing as well.
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Swan Oat posted:
How about right-wing shock-jock shitheel Mancow being waterboarded live on-air? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUkj9pjx3H0 He figures waterboarding isn't a big deal, lasts exactly 5 seconds, and grudgingly admits it's absolutely 100% torture. It turns out he actually drowned as a child and had to be revived, and waterboarding duplicates the sensation exactly. Rhesus Pieces fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Apr 28, 2014 |
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Rhesus Pieces posted:How about right-wing shock-jock shitheel Mancow being waterboarded live on-air? Noted loving scumbag shitheel Sean "Zero Higher Education But Plain-Talkin' Expert on Everything" Hannity said he'd get waterboarded to prove it's no big deal. "They just drip a little water on your face!" Strangely, he never followed through with it, even when various liberal groups offered to donate thousands of dollars to a charity of his choice if he'd just, you know, DO WHAT HE SAID SINCE A MAN'S WORD IS HIS BOND IN HANNITY'S AMERICA. Even the carrot of thousands of dollars to a charity of his choice did not entice Hannity to follow through, even though in his expert opinion waterboarding is about as serious as taking a shower. I wonder why? Surely it's not because he's a big-talking chickenshit liar. There must be some other reason...
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Ron Jeremy posted:Given the prewar stalemate, I don't get why the north didn't combine a few of the states together as a condition of readmission to neuter the south in the senate. Because Johnson was sympathetic to the South after Lincoln's assassination. Southerners, Republicans and Confederate apologists have created a mythical Lincoln that would have been more conciliatory toward the old Confederacy than that dastardly Johnson. Which is wrong. Lincoln wanted to punish the South. Not just for their arrogance but for all the blood they'd spilled over it. Johnson is the the conciliatory figure that the Confederate apologists are imagining Lincoln to be.
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SedanChair posted:Maybe not in comparison to you. In comparison to most black folks, my gosh "drastic" does seem to describe the difference. Catching up with the thread, but this guy's constant coaching of his weirdness/paranoia in some sort of black culture he's constructed in his batty head is really offensive to me. Dude, you're not the King of Black People. You're just strange.
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quote:"Come on. Enemies, who would utterly annihilate America, they who'd obviously have information on plots, to carry out Jihad. Oh, but you can't offend them, can't make them feel uncomfortable, not even a smidgen," she said. "Well, if I were in charge, they would know that waterboarding is how we'd baptize terrorists."  I doubt that she did this intentionally, because I seriously doubt that she is intelligent enough to come up with such an idea, but she's managed to include nearly every back-of-the-mind suspicion people in the region have of American Middle East policy. She may as well have ended by launching the 20th Crusade. Plastic_Gargoyle fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Apr 28, 2014 |
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Great_Gerbil posted:Because Johnson was sympathetic to the South after Lincoln's assassination. Counterpoint: Lincoln's second inaugural address.
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eggyolk posted:An entire generation of educated youth basically toiling to make real the interest-generated money the 1% are already spending. Your house payments? Going to a banker somewhere. Your car payments? Going to a shareholder somewhere. Are you working hard enough to support your financial leech? Oh, and here's a depressing article that reinforces the fact that young people as a class are dropping behind others in other developed world countries. quote:The most recent year in the LIS analysis is 2010. But other income surveys, conducted by government agencies, suggest that since 2010 pay in Canada has risen faster than pay in the United States and is now most likely higher. Pay in several European countries has also risen faster since 2010 than it has in the United States. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/23/u...pe=article&_r=1
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quote:SAN ANTONIO — A Republican hopeful for the U.S. Senate who used a racial slur to describe undocumented immigrants has defended the language as “normal” in South Texas. Think John Roberts will ever get a clue?
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beatlegs posted:Think John Roberts will ever get a clue? No.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Recently Northwestern has been given the opportunity to vote for a union by the NLRB. The vote was on Friday but before the players voted there was a fairly large union busting push by the alumni, the school, and the athletic department to encourage them to vote properly.
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I'll say that I was kind of uncomfortable with Sotomayor's quote about how a wise Latina may reach a better ruling than a white man who hasn't lived that life...but that's because I was stupid and wrong. And nothing drove that point home for me harder than reading the dozens of pages Sotomayor authored about the continuing impact of discrimination in this country, and then to see John Roberts write like a page about how the only racism that still exists is when minorities point out discrimination to make white people feel bad 
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Shageletic posted:Catching up with the thread, but this guy's constant coaching of his weirdness/paranoia in some sort of black culture he's constructed in his batty head is really offensive to me. Dude, you're not the King of Black People. You're just strange. I've offended you? That's terrible! I am saying that most black people are not upwardly mobile professionals. They do not necessarily weigh the same things that people in Obama's class weigh.
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beatlegs posted:Think John Roberts will ever get a clue? "Being called a 'wetback' or 'chink' or 'friend of the family' is only a problem if you make it a problem  "
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SedanChair posted:I've offended you? That's terrible! You are a complete idiot. Even the majority of Obama's political opponents, who had no problem making comments about Bill and Hillary or really any other politician's relationships, won't go near the Obamas' relationship. It's pretty clear they actually love one another to everyone except, apparently, you and the guy who keeps saying he and Obama had coke-fueled gay sex.
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Great_Gerbil posted:Because Johnson was sympathetic to the South after Lincoln's assassination. I have no idea what you're going for here because from everything I've read vengeance was definitely not high on Lincoln's list of priorities at the end of the War. I mean, he would've been tougher on the South than Johnson, but the same goes for a wet sponge.
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Kalman posted:It's pretty clear they actually love one another to everyone except, apparently, you and the guy who keeps saying he and Obama had coke-fueled gay sex. I hear it was a close call for Obama deciding between that guy and Michelle, but he calculated that infiltrating the gay community wouldn't have given him as much electoral benefit.
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Kalman posted:You are a complete idiot. Even the majority of Obama's political opponents, who had no problem making comments about Bill and Hillary or really any other politician's relationships, won't go near the Obamas' relationship. What would be the point of them saying that? It's not the sort of thing you can prove and it sounds vicious. I'm not trying to attack Obama or damage him politically, I'm trying to explain his motivations and insecurities. I voted for the guy twice, I like him, he's very interesting. But the Obamas are a power couple, they're concerned with influence. It doesn't really matter whether or not they chose each other for love, but it's naive to say that they're not a good match in the old family sense.
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