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...of SCIENCE! posted:A serial killer was killing people with a pneumatic bear jaw and after two days of internet hyperbole echo chamber people are complaining about a man building a robot bear assassin to attack the protagonist because goons. Haha a guy just complained in the thread because he thought it was an actual robot wolf.
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Alan Smithee posted:Okay as someone who doesn't watch you gotta explain it to me It's actually kind of a cool looking suit/helmet thing. But it looked really goofy when you saw him wearing it. It was just bizarre even for Hannibal. Mu Zeta fucked around with this message at 06:13 on Apr 28, 2014 |
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...of SCIENCE! posted:A serial killer was killing people with a pneumatic bear jaw and after two days of internet hyperbole echo chamber people are complaining about a man building a robot bear assassin to attack the protagonist because goons. To me it's a classic example of how internet criticism focuses on "Here is a thing that happened on this show!" rather than any evaluation of the execution. Stretching credibility in and of itself is not the worst thing, it's all about pulling it off- and in this case Hannibal managed to do so.
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Apr 28, 2014 06:56
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Maxwell Lord posted:To me it's a classic example of how internet criticism focuses on "Here is a thing that happened on this show!" rather than any evaluation of the execution. Stretching credibility in and of itself is not the worst thing, it's all about pulling it off- and in this case Hannibal managed to do so.
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Apr 28, 2014 07:00
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So speaking of anime, Netflix, and relative quality of shows, are there any worthwhile anime shows on Netflix Instant? asking here because you can never trust deeply in the tank anime fans to give reliable information. also, I stopped watching Attack on Titan about 15 episodes in, but I'm not sure why. The first six or so episodes are intensely upsetting, and I guess I was like "well, I know how this is turning out, soon enough characters that I actually care about will die in horrible random ways, probably by being eaten alive, because that's the kind of show this is". 
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Apr 28, 2014 07:40
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I've been watching some Korra on Amazon streaming. It's pretty good for an anime.
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Apr 28, 2014 08:24
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Spatula City posted:So speaking of anime, Netflix, and relative quality of shows, are there any worthwhile anime shows on Netflix Instant? asking here because you can never trust deeply in the tank anime fans to give reliable information. Samurai Champloo is a stylish kind of Cowboy Bebop with swords deal. Squid Girl is a funny light comedy. Trigun is a western set in outer space, somewhat humorous but gets pretty serious. Welcome to the NHK is very funny and is basically all about making fun of creepy anime fans. Black Butler is about a kid and his demon butler in Victorian England, I haven't watched much but it reminds me of American genre shows with the quirky ensemble cast and period piece adventuring.
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Apr 28, 2014 08:30
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my favorite hannibal promo was from season one where the girl gets ripped under her bed, and then when the episode aired it was even more ridiculous with this great supernatural vibe of a ghost story in the intro as we follow her around the house and its snowing in her dilapidated attic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLDMhbE1W6o
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Apr 28, 2014 09:54
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Apr 28, 2014 10:01
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Fullmetal Alchemist (both series) is really good, though the original has some noticeable pacing issues (along with the voice acting and animation generally being lower quality) if you start with Brotherhood. And I've only seen about three episodes of Champloo but that show rules.Mu Zeta posted:I've been watching some Korra on Amazon streaming. It's pretty good for an anime. I don't even care that you called Korra an anime, but it's really not very good at all.
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MrAristocrates posted:Fullmetal Alchemist (both series) is really good, though the original has some noticeable pacing issues (along with the voice acting and animation generally being lower quality) if you start with Brotherhood. And I've only seen about three episodes of Champloo but that show rules. If you're gonna call out Korra for being bad, I feel like I should also weigh in that Samurai Champloo isn't really that great either. Maybe it was just me, but I never got the appeal of Samurai Champloo except for 'it's vaguely like Cowboy Bebop'. I mean the characters seemed really flat, and aside from the fact that it was anachronistic it really didn't stand out to me at all. I think I got up to like, episode 18 or something before I gave up on it. It had some okay fight scenes, but other than that it always struck me as a standard shounen anime. That and the over-arching plot seemed to move at a glacial pace even compared to the filler heavy nature of anime in general. Which admittedly, isn't that bad if the stand-alone episodes are strong enough but they were kind of bland and repetitive to me. The opening is pretty badass though I have to give it that. Though this talk about anime does make me wonder when HBO will try another serious adult animation project. Or did Spawn kill any chances of that?
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Apr 28, 2014 13:41
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All anime is bad.
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Apr 28, 2014 14:26
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No, you've confused anime with your posting.
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Apr 28, 2014 14:38
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PootieTang posted:I think I got up to like, episode 18 or something before I gave up on it. You missed the Baseball episode. It's one of the best episodes in the series. MrAristocrates posted:Fullmetal Alchemist (both series) is really good, though the original has some noticeable pacing issues (along with the voice acting and animation generally being lower quality) if you start with Brotherhood. And I've only seen about three episodes of Champloo but that show rules. Brotherhood is great. I wish they'd make a sequel, though. zoux posted:All anime is bad. I find that short animes are usually the best. But it's lovely stuff like Bleach and Naruto that people come dressed up as. Like do these people not realize they're terrible people? Short Animes (Not anime shorts you goddamn perverts) - Death Note - Samurai Champloo - FMA - Cowboy Bebop
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zoux posted:All anime is bad. I've said it before, but Paranoia Agent is pretty great. And it's only like 4.5 hours at most. Other than that yeah all anime TV is just terrible, how can an entire genre gently caress up pacing so badly and so consistently
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Apr 28, 2014 14:46
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Bown posted:I've said it before, but Paranoia Agent is pretty great. And it's only like 4.5 hours at most. Other than that yeah all anime TV is just terrible, how can an entire genre gently caress up pacing so badly and so consistently
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Apr 28, 2014 14:50
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PittTheElder posted:Good lord anime is so very stupid. Take a reasonably interesting premise, but then make it about teenagers fighting monsters with their courage and optimism. It's like a young teen book. Mu Zeta posted:It's actually kind of a cool looking suit/helmet thing. But it looked really goofy when you saw him wearing it. It was just bizarre even for Hannibal. Spatula City posted:So speaking of anime, Netflix, and relative quality of shows, are there any worthwhile anime shows on Netflix Instant? asking here because you can never trust deeply in the tank anime fans to give reliable information. Also that's not what the show is at all, once you get far enough it starts becoming more obvious which characters have plot armor, just like Battlestar Galactica. And if you want to watch something, watch Mushishi. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AapZE-LHUdI Mu Zeta posted:I've been watching some Korra on Amazon streaming. It's pretty good for an anime. The prequel episodes in the second season are ace though.
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Here are the good animes: Akira Warriors of the Wind Princess Mononoke Everything else is crap. If you think something not on my list is good, then your opinion is crap. These are objective facts. Thank you.
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Bown posted:I've said it before, but Paranoia Agent is pretty great. And it's only like 4.5 hours at most. Other than that yeah all anime TV is just terrible, how can an entire genre gently caress up pacing so badly and so consistently I don't think you understand the word 'genre'. And I think that a lot of it comes down to the market it's catering to. Anime shows aren't being made for baka gaijins like you, they're being made for the home-grown audience of mentally damaged otaku. Not that I don't like anime, it's just a shame that most of it is just creepy pedo bait, or giant robot show number 2005802832018081. And then there are those endless shows that just goes on for like 5000 episodes of nothing but utter trash, like western superhero comics they're just made to milk an audience who will eat up pretty much anything you throw at them until their inevitable heart disease takes them at the ripe old age of 28. The big problem is that 99% of Anime that western audiences watch is streamed/downloaded online for free. The only people paying money for anime anymore are either super-weirdo collectors who will spend all of their dole money on figurines of underage girls, or... Well no I guess that's about it. Besides, selling foreign rights to stuff is always worse than what you can do domestically, so targeting the western market that wants serious drama and three-dimensional characters just isn't going to happen. Though admittedly, much like how great shows in the west stand out in a crowd of NCIS's and reality TV, there are still good Anime being produced, there just aren't enough of them to balance out the endless tide of poo poo. Personally, I still think that the best bet for Anime/animation becoming a respectable medium for grown-up shows is if HBO or some other high quality company takes a jab at it. And Korra/Avatar don't count, they're kid shows. No matter how many online articles try to compare Korra to Breaking Bad. Though Paranoia agent is great, it does go a bit overboard towards the end. Still worth it overall, as the good far outweighs the bad.
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Apr 28, 2014 15:09
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^^^ What the poo poo is a baka gajin?
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PootieTang posted:And Korra/Avatar don't count, they're kid shows. No matter how many online articles try to compare Korra to Breaking Bad. Cartoons for adults have been the pipe dream of every generation of nerds going back 50+ years. Its never going to happen. The best you can hope for are cartoons with cross generational appeal, like Bob's Burgers, South Park and The Simpsons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9VZZFm8ndQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_MzWF8YLhY
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PootieTang posted:I don't think you understand the word 'genre'. I actually almost edited it but then I decided to see if some sperg was going to correct me or not.  The thing is, even the 'good' animes bother me stylistically. And I know really that's just my personal taste but even the first few episodes of Death Note just suffered through the same old tropes as every other show I've seen, especially with the over-stylisation in relatively 'normal' scenes and the way it tries to be as action-y as possible at all times even during conversations. I sure hope this makes sense. Almost every one I've seen doesn't seem to leave any breathing room whatsoever. Reiterating I'm referring to TV and not anime movies where there are definitely a bunch of good ones not Grave of the Fireflies which is loving terrible, manipulative, sappy poo poo
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Ravane posted:^^^ What the poo poo is a baka gajin? Baka means stupid/idiot and gaijin is Japanese for outsider/foreigner. In case you didn't know, the Japanese really don't like people who aren't Japanese. It's what happens when your country is still 99% ethnically 'pure' and nationalism is a big deal.
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PootieTang posted:
That's a problem entirely created by the insane hostility of the Japanese companies to the western market though. Of course no one is going to buy your product when you're selling two twenty minute episodes on one blue-ray for the price of a small car or whatever.
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Bown posted:I actually almost edited it but then I decided to see if some sperg was going to correct me or not. Maybe try Steins;Gate? Most of the conversational scenes are low key, and it's definitely more of a slow burn than most anime out there (it doesn't fully ramp up till you're halfway through).
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Basically, that's it. Half the poo poo doesn't come out here and when it does it's extremely over priced. I got some Hellsing blu rays for cheap off Amazon though, so that and Trigun is all I own.
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Irish Joe posted:Cartoons for adults have been the pipe dream of every generation of nerds going back 50+ years. Its never going to happen. The best you can hope for are cartoons with cross generational appeal, like Bob's Burgers, South Park and The Simpsons. What about Spawn? Which ran for three seasons on HBO and looked almost anime-ish. It was a cartoon at least, and very HBO with titties and gorey violence and everything. It's too bad it took such a nosedive after season one. I mean it was way ahead of it's time, but it did happen. Bown posted:I actually almost edited it but then I decided to see if some sperg was going to correct me or not. :3 I agree on grave of the fireflies. And while you're right about Death Note, I found that to be one of the positive aspects of the show. It came off to me as the comedic relief, which the show does need to balance out all the weirdo goths who think the show is 'deep' and not just a fun show. I mean how can you hate a guy getting so into writing names in a notebook that he leaps out of his seat, and darts from left to right as his pen leaves giant glowing streaks in the air. Or the immortal line "I'll take a potato chip... AND EAT TI!" delivered in the most hammy way possible? I think another part of it is the age it's targeted at. In the west it's usually either a kiddy show, or an adult show. Death Note is one of those inbetweens, aimed at people just starting to approach adulthood. And really, I liked it a lot when I was younger. Mainly because as a kid, it's not talking down to you, though if I saw it for the first time now I'd probably be turned off by it. That and ever since I learned that animation in Anime is done every third frame rather than every second like in the west, I can't help but notice how bad that looks. I'd never really gotten the complaint about Anime looking jerky or cheap until I heard about that, but now it's all I see. + Speaking of anime, anyone in this thread hasn't seen Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade you should check it out, it's a pretty great movie. PootieTang fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Apr 28, 2014 |
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Cityinthesea posted:Maybe try Steins;Gate? Most of the conversational scenes are low key, and it's definitely more of a slow burn than most anime out there (it doesn't fully ramp up till you're halfway through). A good rule of thumb when recommending an anime is to GIS the title, filter the results by selecting "animated" under "type." Look at the first four results and ask yourself, "would I show these to my grandfather?" If the answer is "no," then you probably shouldn't recommend it to strangers. PootieTang posted:What about Spawn? Which ran for three seasons on HBO and looked almost anime-ish. It was a cartoon at least, and very HBO with titties and gorey violence and everything. It's too bad it took such a nosedive after season one. It does happen and I posted two examples of such in my reply. The problem is that Spawn, Aoen Flux and all the other so-called 'adult' cartoons don't actually appeal to adults. They appeal to teenagers who liked them because they were edgy (edgy was cool in the 90s). Irish Joe fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Apr 28, 2014 |
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Irish Joe posted:A good rule of thumb when recommending an anime is to GIS the title, filter the results by selecting "animated" under "type." Look at the first four results and ask yourself, "would I show these to my grandfather?" If the answer is "no," then you probably shouldn't recommend it to strangers. Do you really only watch shows your grandparents would find acceptable? Because that seems like a sad existence. Although granted I'm pretty sure I only saw one episode of Steins;Gate, it didn't come off as especially anime-y in terms of creepy sex stuff. More just melodrama. In fact if I'm remembering the show right, the main character is a super-eccentric mad scientist type who dances around and screams every piece of dialog, is that really 'low key'?
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PootieTang posted:Baka means stupid/idiot and gaijin is Japanese for outsider/foreigner. Gaijin is actually literally translated as "white devil" and also this is a p racist characterization of japan They've had issues with xenophobia before but as of current are pretty accepting of other cultures especially American culture. Japan still has a problem with racism against black people in particular but that's more borne from ignorance than from outright dislike
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PootieTang posted:Do you really only watch shows your grandparents would find acceptable? No, but I use my grandparents as a barometer to judge how the average person might react to one of my weird hobbies. BTW, Result #3 
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PootieTang posted:Baka means stupid/idiot and gaijin is Japanese for outsider/foreigner. I feel like this is a giant stereotype. I've been to Tokyo with my dad, and the people and the food were amazing. They're quite hospitable, so I really don't think that anyone (outside of your animes and the rednecks of Japan) actually thinks that way. Irish Joe posted:A good rule of thumb when recommending an anime is to GIS the title, filter the results by selecting "animated" under "type." Look at the first four results and ask yourself, "would I show these to my grandfather?" If the answer is "no," then you probably shouldn't recommend it to strangers. My grandpa has alzheimers and only watches Tom & Jerry. You sayin' Tom & Jerry is an anime?
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Irish joe you should watch black lagoon it is a rad anime
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Moribito. One of the few good anime series. Movies is far broader, with Ghibli movies, Makoto Shinkai's stuff and of course Satoshi Kon's movies.
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Every recommendation this thread makes should be pre-empted with "anime, however, is for jerks"
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Occupation posted:Every recommendation this thread makes should be pre-emptied with "anime, however, is for jerks" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwfyzG59qsc
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Occupation posted:Gaijin is actually literally translated as "white devil" and also this is a p racist characterization of japan They're not nazi germany if you think that's what I was implying, but you can't argue that it's not an aspect of the culture. It's not even a hostility thing, it's more of a superiority thing. That and when I visited Japan, people were either super-friendly or the complete opposite. It really seemed to be an all or nothing when it came to foreigners. But that's just my experience. EDIT: In fact, did you really just point out that the word for foreigner was actually way more racist than I thought it was, then double back and say that I'm making them seem too hostile towards foreigners? I mean drat I genuinely didn't know Gaijin was that bad, I should be way more offended at a bunch of Japanese people. I mean could you imagine if instead of African American(or whatever country) you just called black people 'black demon' instead? Ravane posted:I feel like this is a giant stereotype. I've been to Tokyo with my dad, and the people and the food were amazing. They're quite hospitable, so I really don't think that anyone (outside of your animes and the rednecks of Japan) actually thinks that way. Again, I wasn't trying to poo poo on the Japanese as a people or imply they're all crazy rednecks. But you're kidding yourself if you think it isn't a thing. Naturally with globalisation going on, a lot of the younger generation are waaaay more open-minded than previous ones, but that kind of poo poo doesn't just disappear over night. PootieTang fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Apr 28, 2014 |
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I just started watching The 100. Is the thread lovely, yea or nay?
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I'm so excited about new Jem and the Holograms stuff. I don't even care that it will almost certainly be trash.
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Occupation posted:Gaijin is actually literally translated as "white devil" and also this is a p racist characterization of japan Actually it's literraly not. 外人 (gaijin) is made up of two kanji outside and person. an outside person a foreigner.
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