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Hezzy posted:Unless you're in my force that has a 100% no pursuit policy in place! We have a few rules in place. We aren't allowed to use carriers as the lead pursuit vehicle etc but in London the chases frequently lead to a non-fatal RTC.
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Bernard McFacknutah posted:We have a few rules in place. We aren't allowed to use carriers as the lead pursuit vehicle etc but in London the chases frequently lead to a non-fatal RTC. What's a carrier? Like a paddy wagon? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_van Answered my own question. 
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Mad Dragon posted:paddy wagon? Check your fuckin privilege Mods ban this sick filth
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Smiling Jack posted:Check your fuckin privilege 
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Mad Dragon posted:What's a carrier? Like a paddy wagon? Meat wagon, Party Bus, Porking Van, Battle Taxi, Gestapo bus, poo poo shuttle.
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Apr 28, 2014 01:58
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gently caress yes I'm now calling ours the battle taxi.
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Apr 28, 2014 02:41
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Tentacle Party posted:gently caress yes I'm now calling ours the battle taxi. I call ours the battle wagon but I will also be switching to battle taxi.
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Apr 28, 2014 02:46
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My department doesn't even have once  Whenever we really need one we just borrow a city bus
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Apr 28, 2014 03:18
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We don't have a battle taxi either but I might just start calling my patrol car the battle taxi.
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Whale Cancer posted:We don't have a battle taxi either but I might just start calling my patrol car the battle taxi. More like the fatty taxi.
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Apr 28, 2014 03:34
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an overdue owl posted:I think I know what you're trying to say here, but I find this pretty disturbing. Even the most well trained officer should still have some worries about this. Thinking that a mistake or an accident or any number of factors that could crop up in the heat of the moment could definitely never happen to you is probably what every cop thinks before it actually does. It's a serious enough thing that I'd like to think you'd worried about it once or twice at least! I don't think I got it across correctly. It isn't that I think it'll never happen. I was trying to convey that it just isn't something I find stressful. I'm so comfortable with my skills and judgement that I don't stress about it. I stress way more about killing someone while I'm driving. Which is also much more likely. But I'm also not a very stressed out person, particularly at work. Edit: I'd also like to add that if you're stressed about shooting someone during a lethal force incident, you're more of a danger to yourself and others. Practically, it's safer for me to be as detached and rational as possible, while acknowledging that lethal force events are extremely stressful on their own, without adding uncertainty over my ability to use lethal force. DrakeriderCa fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Apr 28, 2014 |
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Apr 28, 2014 03:54
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Pretty much. Police shootings happen so rarely here that it's just not worth wringing your hands about it. You trust that the people who trained you put enough good habits in your head to lead you to do the right thing, and that the state will do everything in its power to insulate you from liability where your use of force was justified, and then you turn your full attention back to what you're supposed to be doing.
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I've got a question for any British police in this thread, how do you feel about the Dangerous Dogs Act? Mainly talking about Section 1, the part that bans specific breeds. Ever had to seize a dog under Section 1? I can't imagine it feels too great if it's a much loved family pet, obviously different if it's a "status dog" owned by your typical thug/drug dealer.
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Grem posted:There was a chase not too long ago in surrounding cities where a dude stole a car that had a kid in it. Kid was okay and the guy stole a different car after almost an hour of driving. Real life "Adventures in Babysitting."
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Lethal Drizzle posted:I've got a question for any British police in this thread, how do you feel about the Dangerous Dogs Act? Mainly talking about Section 1, the part that bans specific breeds. I don't really have much experience with this but from what I know, the dogs usually come to the attention of the police because they've bitten or mauled someone. I haven't heard of any instances where the police have deliberately gone out looking for dangerous dogs.
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Hezzy posted:I don't really have much experience with this but from what I know, the dogs usually come to the attention of the police because they've bitten or mauled someone. I haven't heard of any instances where the police have deliberately gone out looking for dangerous dogs. It must be different in all forces, I know in Liverpool, Birmingham and certain boroughs of London they really crack down hard, stopping people in the street and running campaigns asking the public to report Pit Bull type dogs. There was even a recent case in Liverpool where they executed "dawn raids" across the city seizing Pit Bull type dogs http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/471442/Outrage-as-police-executioners-seize-and-kill-22-pet-dogs
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Lethal Drizzle posted:It must be different in all forces this isn't a jab at you or anything but this line of thought could probably summarize most questions that ever come up in here
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krispykremessuck posted:this isn't a jab at you or anything but this line of thought could probably summarize most questions that ever come up in here But until we ask them and find this out, it's safe to assume the worst case scenario with cops. Why are city speeding tickets more expensive than county speeding tickets? I've gotten two speeding tickets in my life; literally on the same road at different times. One was from city police for $250 for going 5 miles over the speed limit (  ) and the other was from a sheriff for $110 for going twenty miles over (one of those "speed reduces from 45 to 25 during school hours" traps). The second one was doubled for being in a school zone too, so it would've been only $55 normally.
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Because every jurisdiction can charge whatever amount they want to for a traffic infraction.
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:But until we ask them and find this out, it's safe to assume the worst case scenario with cops.  that's a great attitude. Hitlers Gay Secret posted:Why are city speeding tickets more expensive than county speeding tickets? I've gotten two speeding tickets in my life; literally on the same road at different times. One was from city police for $250 for going 5 miles over the speed limit ( To answer your question, Lethal Drizzle posted:It must be different in all forces
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:But until we ask them and find this out, it's safe to assume the worst case scenario with cops. If you can't answer think about it and answer this question yourself I seriously doubt your ability to critically think. Different places have different laws.
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Lethal Drizzle posted:It must be different in all forces, I know in Liverpool, Birmingham and certain boroughs of London they really crack down hard, stopping people in the street and running campaigns asking the public to report Pit Bull type dogs. There was even a recent case in Liverpool where they executed "dawn raids" across the city seizing Pit Bull type dogs http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/471442/Outrage-as-police-executioners-seize-and-kill-22-pet-dogs I've never seen a dangerous dogs operation. Also I can't be arsed to check right now but I seem to remember only 4 breeds being named in S.1 and a couple were super rare like dogos argentinos. The most ridiculous thing is that if a dog kills someone on private property then no offense (usually) has been committed.
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:But until we ask them and find this out, it's safe to assume the worst case scenario with cops. man I don't like cops, but I'm not the ftp type and I also recognize the one bad interaction I've ever had w/ a cop is because I called him a human being so. grow up
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http://imgur.com/gallery/TZEZO I've seen this image several times today. My question for the cop goons: if you were one of the two "non-choking" cops in this picture what would you do? Do you arrest the armed assailant? Do you stand there as a witness and do nothing like the two pictured? Other?
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krispykremessuck posted:man I don't like cops, but I'm not the ftp type and I also recognize the one bad interaction I've ever had w/ a cop is because I called him a human being so. grow up 
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The day poo poo like this: Stops happening maybe my stance on cops will change. Nostalgia4Infinity posted:If you can't answer think about it and answer this question yourself I seriously doubt your ability to critically think.  krispykremessuck posted:man I don't like cops, but I'm not the ftp type and I also recognize the one bad interaction I've ever had w/ a cop is because I called him a human being so. grow up  EDIT: Whip Slagcheek posted:Because every jurisdiction can charge whatever amount they want to for a traffic infraction. Thanks for the answer without being a shitheel about it. GenderSelectScreen fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Apr 28, 2014 |
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:Thanks for the answer without being a shitheel about it. i'm being a shitheel about it because it's not hard to figure out, in most cases, why things are different from force to force edit: also because im a white noise poster allegedly
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:The day poo poo like this: You're entitled to your opinion, but saying "it's safe to assume the worst" seems a bit much. I've been filmed performing my duties at least once or twice a week over the course of 8 years. I'm sure most of us have. You probably won't find those videos on youtube and you definitely won't find them making headlines because I don't treat people like they're animals. The scrutiny put on us by the public is understandable & welcome by those of us who are doing things correctly because it leads to guys like that getting fired. Is it also safe to assume that all female high school teachers are loving their students? There have been numerous arrests and allegations of misconduct but do you feel the need to ask them individually to find out?
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mds2 posted:http://imgur.com/gallery/TZEZO At the time? You say "Okay, he's good, I've got him" and then you step between Officer Chokey and your subject to stop the former from doing something everyone will regret and the latter from getting hurt (and going free for whatever it is you're arresting him for). Later on you mention it matter-of-factly in the report ("while other members used a series of resistance reduction techniques, including a one-armed throat grab, to assure compliance"), document the poo poo out of it in your second notebook, and tell the guy who lost control that he should warn the shift supervisor so the poor bastard has an answer ready for the Lt tomorrow. Bosses are much happier hearing about things like that from their subordinates than they are from their superiors.
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:Police don't answer questions, they just make excuses. Hitlers Gay Secret posted:AH HA HA! The loving Brit cops are talking about how they hate handguns and the American cops are freaking the gently caress out in the Ask Pigs thread. Hitlers Gay Secret posted:I hope a student kills you in a shooting because you can't carry a gun on campus. Hitlers Gay Secret posted:Has Grem and the rest of those pigs killed themselves yet? I don't see them posting anymore. Hitlers Gay Secret posted:Grem, please take out your service pistol, place it in you mouth and pull the trigger. Thanks. Hitlers Gay Secret posted:Oink oink oink, woof woof woof, what's the difference? Hitlers Gay Secret posted:GiP is there so we know who's retarded. Why bother replying to this GBS poo poo poster?
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*sprays pepper spray everywhere* Everyone can stop with the meta posting now, thanks.
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:The day poo poo like this: Some solid emoticon only replies, you're really BYOBin' now, son
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flakeloaf posted:At the time? You say "Okay, he's good, I've got him" and then you step between Officer Chokey and your subject to stop the former from doing something everyone will regret and the latter from getting hurt (and going free for whatever it is you're arresting him for). Do you think there should be criminal charges against the choker? Assuming you don't step in between the assailant and the victim in time to stop the choking. Would you yourself file them/arrest the assailant?
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Cmdr. Shepard posted:Why bother replying to this GBS poo poo poster? Oh snap son, you found me out. I post like a shithead on GBS. Congratu-loving-lations. Has nothing to do with the posting atmosphere, or the fact that the thread is dedicated to showing how hosed up the police force is. I try to be civil in this thread, but you you guys reply with poo poo like "human being" and calling me stupid for asking a question of course I'm going to run to the ACAB hugbox, much like you guys run to your hugbox.
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:I try to be civil in this thread, but you you guys reply with poo poo like "human being" and calling me stupid for asking a question of course I'm going to run to the ACAB hugbox, much like you guys run to your hugbox. You can't even begin to compare this thread and the GBS one... I don't think Nostalgia4Infinity is a cop, so none of us called you stupid or a human being. Whip answered it, but to build on your question, some jurisdictions have the option of citing under state law or local code and each will have different fines/fee structure. Would you be willing to respond to this? beanieson posted:You're entitled to your opinion, but saying "it's safe to assume the worst" seems a bit much. I've been filmed performing my duties at least once or twice a week over the course of 8 years. I'm sure most of us have. You probably won't find those videos on youtube and you definitely won't find them making headlines because I don't treat people like they're animals. The scrutiny put on us by the public is understandable & welcome by those of us who are doing things correctly because it leads to guys like that getting fired. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Where is that "people being scared to get caught and arrested with weed makin me lol" thread again... must have missed it. Probably got some funny posts about baby neckbeards haha right. You want legitimate answers try not to look like a troll in the process.
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Cmdr. Shepard posted:Would you be willing to respond to this? I did in the ACAB hugbox thread already. Someone else expanded on what I said. Since you like going through my post history I'm sure you can find it.  Untagged posted:You want legitimate answers try not to look like a troll in the process. I'd say the same to you guys but I know that's loving impossible. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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mds2 posted:Do you think there should be criminal charges against the choker? Assuming you don't step in between the assailant and the victim in time to stop the choking. Would you yourself file them/arrest the assailant? If it were one of my fellow officers it wouldn't be my call. Administrative reporting usually involves telling your mutual supervisor through the chain of command, or reaching out to infernal affairs directly; it's their job is to be the pariah, it's their area of expertise, let the pros do their thing. If the member were suspected of criminal wrongdoing another police agency would be called in to investigate.
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