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Nasgate
Jun 7, 2011
The female bandit leader is my waifu, she fell for me when I gifted her 100 skulls one at a time.

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Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

my mum says im cool

Toilet Rascal
Remember, if you want the stuff from the aelinor quest but not marriage with the 12 year old or whatever, give her a pile of poo poo and throw her against a wall a bunch before escaping the dungeon.

Doctor Hospital
Jul 16, 2011

what





Dr Tasty posted:

EDIT: Actually I can't remember when the game picks your partner. Is it before you fight the dragon or before you confront the leader of salvation?

The quest where it locks your beloved in is Deny Salvation.

Cometa Rossa
Oct 23, 2008

I would crawl ass-naked over a sea of broken glass just to kiss a dick
So is your beloved the last person you max affinity with, or is it the last person you talk to who has maxed affinity?

Dr Tasty
Jul 21, 2005

Hueheheh-and you GOT one
The one you last spoke to who has max affinity.

Cometa Rossa
Oct 23, 2008

I would crawl ass-naked over a sea of broken glass just to kiss a dick
Ok cool. I'm shooting for Mercedes but according to my stats there's another person out there with maxed affinity and I have zero idea who it is, so I didn't want to end up with Guard #4 because he maxed out 5 minutes after Mercedes did.

SoggyBobcat
Oct 2, 2013

If it's not someone like Aelinore, who will get a big affinity boost if you complete her questline, then it might be a shopkeeper or an innkeeper.

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice
Valmiro for life.

Cometa Rossa
Oct 23, 2008

I would crawl ass-naked over a sea of broken glass just to kiss a dick
Valmiro is a bro, I wish we could've had more heart-to-heart beach beers before you left buddy :(

Just took on the Chamber of Fate clusterfuck at level 59 and didn't suffer a single casualty. Somehow the Drake spawned when I made my way back through and I murdered him too. I think I just survived my Dragon's Dogma graduation.

Cometa Rossa fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Apr 26, 2014

Father Wendigo
Sep 28, 2005
This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Someone had a big, in-depth post over the endgame's storyline implications, namely everyone is really a pawn or somesuch, time is cyclical, ect. Could someone link me?

Mr. Baps
Apr 16, 2008

Yo ho?

I barely know what I'm doing in this game but it's fun and only promises to get radder as time goes on. I just got to Gran Soren and have a couple of novice questions I'm hoping someone will answer:

-I started as a strider and intend to switch to assassin; is there an ideal time to do so? Should I max my strider rank first to make sure I've unlocked as many skills/passives as I can?
-Is there a quick way to get to the witch's hut in the woods? I have a sidequest that wants me to bring her something so if there's a shortcut I'd love to hear about it.

I thought I'd have more to ask but I'm drawing a blank for now. I'm sure I'll have plenty of dumb questions as new stuff keeps showing up, though :v:

Infinity Gaia
Feb 27, 2011

a storm is coming...

Walrus Pete posted:

I barely know what I'm doing in this game but it's fun and only promises to get radder as time goes on. I just got to Gran Soren and have a couple of novice questions I'm hoping someone will answer:

-I started as a strider and intend to switch to assassin; is there an ideal time to do so? Should I max my strider rank first to make sure I've unlocked as many skills/passives as I can?
-Is there a quick way to get to the witch's hut in the woods? I have a sidequest that wants me to bring her something so if there's a shortcut I'd love to hear about it.

I thought I'd have more to ask but I'm drawing a blank for now. I'm sure I'll have plenty of dumb questions as new stuff keeps showing up, though :v:

You can switch whenever you feel like it. While there is a difference in stat growths between classes, it's really not terribly important in the long run unless you're going from one end of the spectrum to another (Fighter to Mage or vice versa). So if you feel like you need a change of pace, go for it. You can always go back to finish up Strider later, and such.

For your second question, nope! Well there's a semi-glitchy way to get back up the back exit, involving levitation and tossing yourself at the wall at a certain angle, but really, you should just set one of your Portcrystals nearby it. Some people like putting it by the back exit, on the little cliff, but I think it's fair enough to go through the woods when you want to go back there. Makes it a bit fairer in my personal style.

Mr. Baps
Apr 16, 2008

Yo ho?

Thanks for the answers! Sounds like the class-changing system is pretty forgiving, which is great. I might dip into fighter to see what skills I can unlock later on, even. For now though I'm enjoying strider and will probably max it out before I go assassin.

To make sure I understand, maxing out a class is all about your class rank and not your level, right? I'll have everything a class can do available to unlock once I hit the last rank? (I think it's 10?)

Fetucine
Oct 29, 2011

Walrus Pete posted:

To make sure I understand, maxing out a class is all about your class rank and not your level, right? I'll have everything a class can do available to unlock once I hit the last rank? (I think it's 10?)

9, but yeah, abilities are gated 100% based on your vocation level, not your character level. Strider gets most of its good abilities by like rank 6 or 7, but there's one Augment (Leg Strength) at rank 9 that is useful for almost any character, since it makes your movement speed act like you're one weight class below what you really are.

Assassin is a pretty good class, but really feel free to experiment. The vocation system is super forgiving, and even if you spend 100 levels bouncing around every class the worst that'll happen is that you can do everything well instead of one thing marginally better. So if you like the Assassin's sword skills, give Fighter a try, they have a lot of cool moves. Or just pick a class at random; the only class I'd say isn't fun to play is the basic Mage.

titties
May 10, 2012

They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

Walrus Pete posted:

I barely know what I'm doing in this game but it's fun and only promises to get radder as time goes on. I just got to Gran Soren ...

... Is there a quick way to get to the witch's hut in the woods? I have a sidequest that wants me to bring her something so if there's a shortcut I'd love to hear about it.

Do this before you visit the pawn guild and go down into their basement.

There isn't really a shortcut, but bring a lot of mushrooms and hug the mountains to your left. Sprint past all the bandits, if you are a lowbie they will wreck your poo poo.

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004

I did the staff/levitate trick and left a portcrystal right outside the backdoor. As a first-timer, you should take the long way. That way, your pawn learns the Witchwood. Also, it's kind of fun to explore. The first time. After the third of fourth time, it's a chore.

Thistledown
Dec 18, 2009

Walrus Pete posted:

Thanks for the answers! Sounds like the class-changing system is pretty forgiving, which is great. I might dip into fighter to see what skills I can unlock later on, even. For now though I'm enjoying strider and will probably max it out before I go assassin.

You shouldn't really worry about minmaxing your classes. In fact, it's not a bad idea to naturally learn all of the augments over the course of the game by maxing all your vocations. You'll have a rounder set of stats, experience in playing all of the vocations, and a huge list of augments to choose from. Sure, you won't stab a thing quite as hard as an Arisen that has spent levels 10+ as assassin, but you also won't die from being sneezed at and can reasonably use any gear you find. And you'll still stab pretty okay. That said, if you find you can't stand casting or slow 2-handers, you can stick to what you DO like and be pretty good at it.

So don't worry about it.

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004

Once you get a 2-hander with good stats, warrior becomes a whole new class. Devil's Nail destroys... well.. everything.

http://dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Devil%27s_Nail

Mr. Baps
Apr 16, 2008

Yo ho?

titties posted:

There isn't really a shortcut, but bring a lot of mushrooms and hug the mountains to your left. Sprint past all the bandits, if you are a lowbie they will wreck your poo poo.

Yeah, I've already been to the Witchwood for the Quina escort quest. I have much more crowd control than I did then so I'm going to at least try fighting them this time :v:

Bakalakadaka
Sep 18, 2004

Walrus Pete posted:

Yeah, I've already been to the Witchwood for the Quina escort quest. I have much more crowd control than I did then so I'm going to at least try fighting them this time :v:

If you have any throwblasts you can peg the bandits in the face with them and they will probably die. I know one time when I started a game I tossed one at the first shield bandit you come across on the way to the Witchwood and he just flew up into the air and died. :iia:

Davos
Jul 1, 2011

DESERVING RECOGNITION
Does Dark Arisen add anything to the main game besides some higher level vocation skills or is all the new content on BBI?

All I have right now is the vanilla game but I've had a real craving to start a new character, is there any reason not to just start one in vanilla, play a while, and then buy Dark Arisen when I get a chance and import my character into that to do the new content?

A Real Happy Camper
Dec 11, 2007

These children have taught me how to believe.

Davos posted:

Does Dark Arisen add anything to the main game besides some higher level vocation skills or is all the new content on BBI?

All I have right now is the vanilla game but I've had a real craving to start a new character, is there any reason not to just start one in vanilla, play a while, and then buy Dark Arisen when I get a chance and import my character into that to do the new content?

There's a lot of balance changes and more importantly, your character doesn't import. You get bonuses when you start a new game with an original DD save on your system.

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004

Captain Novolin posted:

There's a lot of balance changes and more importantly, your character doesn't import.

Yes it does. You only get the bonus armor, items, etc if you load an existing DD game.

Cometa Rossa
Oct 23, 2008

I would crawl ass-naked over a sea of broken glass just to kiss a dick
My pawn came back after being used a couple of times with 3 stars across the board, no presents or comments, but a bunch of new knowledge about Death :911:

Gildiss
Aug 24, 2010

Grimey Drawer

Cometa Rossa posted:

My pawn came back after being used a couple of times with 3 stars across the board, no presents or comments, but a bunch of new knowledge about Death :911:

That's the default rating they get when they are KIA instead of being sent back.

Cometa Rossa
Oct 23, 2008

I would crawl ass-naked over a sea of broken glass just to kiss a dick
Yeah I know, hence the :911:. It's the one time I've ever been able to pretty accurately pinpoint his cause of death.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
Thanks to Gildiss' LP of this game I picked this game back up despite it leaving a bad taste in my mouth the first time, and finally mustered up the motivation to beat it... sort of, because holy poo poo Grigori is destroying my rear end. I'm playing a melee fighter and I am getting pasted despite bringing three destruction magic-based mages along because I've got basically no way to hit him without either being stun-locked afterward or being lucky enough to reach one of the phases where he kinda flops around uselessly for a bit. I don't suppose there's a way to go back before the fight starts so I can prepare more and then try again, is there? I thought I was prepared enough but obviously I was wrong.

Captain Novolin posted:

There's a lot of balance changes and more importantly, your character doesn't import. You get bonuses when you start a new game with an original DD save on your system.

As someone who just did this the other day, yes it does. Existing character saves import flawlessly from DD to Dark Arisen. When you first start it up it asks you if you want to start a new game or carry over your DD save. It even gives your old character the bonuses for having a DD save on your console.

edit: Also, why can't I rate pawns/be rated anymore? It doesn't give me the option to do so. Was it removed in Dark Arisen?

CJacobs fucked around with this message at 07:26 on Apr 29, 2014

Danith
May 20, 2006
I've lurked here for years
It's been awhile but I think if the pawn has a icon of a person with a slash mark through it that means they don't have the expansion and you can't rate those for whatever reason.

Lunethex
Feb 4, 2013

Me llamo Sarah Brandolino, the eighth Castilian of this magnificent marriage.

CJacobs posted:

edit: Also, why can't I rate pawns/be rated anymore? It doesn't give me the option to do so. Was it removed in Dark Arisen?

Are you sending them away in the rift? If you don't release them naturally then you can't do anything detailed, they get a default rating and whatever experience/knowledge they got fighting with you until their loss.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

Danith posted:

It's been awhile but I think if the pawn has a icon of a person with a slash mark through it that means they don't have the expansion and you can't rate those for whatever reason.

Oh, that would be why then. I'm getting loads of non-DA pawns comparitively.

Mr. Baps
Apr 16, 2008

Yo ho?

So, I've accidentally started taking Mercedes on a whirlwind tour of Gransys. I started her escort mission, and the target area is some place I've never been to or heard of so I don't know how to get there yet. So far in my attempts to reach it we've visited the Watergod's Altar (wish I had grabbed the quest for that place beforehand, but killing a cyclops with such ease felt awesome) and the abbey (seeing Quina there was quite a surprise!). I wonder where we'll end up next?! Next on the list of directions to try is southwest, past the path to the Witchwood. Wish me luck :v:

Also, fun times in the Watergod's Altar - had both Mercedes and my main pawn randomly leap and/or fall into the deep water, instantly dying and prompting me to load a save. It was too funny to be annoying, at least.

Mr. Baps fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Apr 30, 2014

Fetucine
Oct 29, 2011
Mercedes' escort quest is I think to the Shadow Fort, the destination of another one of the Wyrm Hunt quests (A Fortress Besieged). It's northwest of the Witchwood entrance, so that's roughly the right direction.

You should wander around the forest south of the Shadow Fort on the way there. Nothing bad could happen :unsmigghh:

Father Wendigo
Sep 28, 2005
This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Fetucine posted:

You should wander around the forest south of the Shadow Fort on the way there. Nothing bad could happen :unsmigghh:

This is true, there's this dude who talks to you in Latin and maybe your gear will get Dragon Forged at little to no cost to you!

:v:

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004

I first ran into that guy when I was level 20 I think. He sent all of the stuff my pawns were carrying back to the inn. For free. :haw:

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
Beat the game, if it could be called doing that. The ending was real dumb but I'm glad they didn't take it the opposite direction and make everything shiny and happy forever. The only thing I really ever gave a poo poo about was killing the big dragon and getting my loving heart back, and now I do have it back and so I'm happy with this outcome. Maybe it's because I didn't really care enough about the game world or any of the characters, or maybe because the game didn't go to much effort to try to get me to care. I dunno. I'll probably play through it again just to check out a different playstyle once I've finished up the actual-end-of-the-game-for-real-this-time stuff.

The affinity system also is real dumb. What were they even thinking with that?

titties
May 10, 2012

They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

CJacobs posted:

Beat the game, if it could be called doing that. The ending was real dumb but I'm glad they didn't take it the opposite direction and make everything shiny and happy forever. The only thing I really ever gave a poo poo about was killing the big dragon and getting my loving heart back, and now I do have it back and so I'm happy with this outcome. Maybe it's because I didn't really care enough about the game world or any of the characters, or maybe because the game didn't go to much effort to try to get me to care. I dunno. I'll probably play through it again just to check out a different playstyle once I've finished up the actual-end-of-the-game-for-real-this-time stuff.

The affinity system also is real dumb. What were they even thinking with that?

Did you actually finish (most of) the story without changing classes?

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

titties posted:

Did you actually finish (most of) the story without changing classes?

I started as a fighter, finished as a fighter. My main pawn started mage but I ascended them to the-one-that-comes-after-mage because I wanted them to smite things with meteors. The game alternated between being incredibly piss easy and way too difficult to be fun without any real indication as to why, so I just stuck with melee to keep things simple. The final boss was the only thing that was even a challenge to a pure melee fighter because the only place you can hurt him is just barely out of your reach. Even pure flying enemies land and then flail about like idiots all the time.

CJacobs fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Apr 30, 2014

Supreme Allah
Oct 6, 2004

everybody relax, i'm here
Nap Ghost

CJacobs posted:

The final boss was the only thing that was even a challenge to a pure melee fighter because the only place you can hurt him is just barely out of your reach.

I assume you mean deleted.

E - sorry, re read your comments where you know there's more 'actual end game' stuff. To be fair that is what puts it all in context, or it did for me. It's a real simple video game until that part, and there are much harder things than the dragon in this portion.


Added my info to the OP source sheet if anyone wants to take a lvl 68 ranger with high carry capacity out for a twirl (360, username SmootherHades81 pawn BuzzKill)

Supreme Allah fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Apr 30, 2014

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004

CJacobs posted:

I started as a fighter, finished as a fighter. My main pawn started mage but I ascended them to the-one-that-comes-after-mage because I wanted them to smite things with meteors. The game alternated between being incredibly piss easy and way too difficult to be fun without any real indication as to why, so I just stuck with melee to keep things simple. The final boss was the only thing that was even a challenge to a pure melee fighter because the only place you can hurt him is just barely out of your reach. Even pure flying enemies land and then flail about like idiots all the time.

Have you tried Assassin? It can use a sword and board like the fighter, but it also lets you use a bow and daggers.

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Cometa Rossa
Oct 23, 2008

I would crawl ass-naked over a sea of broken glass just to kiss a dick

Supreme Allah posted:

Added my info to the OP source sheet if anyone wants to take a lvl 68 ranger with high carry capacity out for a twirl (360, username SmootherHades81 pawn BuzzKill)

I'll take your guy out in the next day or two, fighter pawns aren't working out too well for me lately.

I've been wiping the floor with everything in the Everfall so I finally made it out to BBI. That place does not gently caress around. Got beaten to hell by a cockatrice and garm - the cockatrice petrified all but my main pawn and finally petrified the garm when it had at least 5 bars of health still left. Later on I fought the gorecyclops in the Tower of Treasons Repaid and a Cursed Dragon showed up, so it was a free-for-all and everyone was fighting everyone else with almost no wiggle room. It was chaos. I love this game so drat much.

Cometa Rossa fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Apr 30, 2014

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