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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ea-9300202.html Seems reasonable?
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Just be a bit of a dissenting opinion, but there are some people who don't actually respond favourably to grief counselling at all and it can actually make the entire process that much worse. People respond to grief in many, many different ways. When my mother died, I don't even think I cried. I had my sister to take care of, so it was almost all business, making sure affairs were in order etc. I guess that seems crazy to some people, and I constantly had people telling me that I should be upset, with the implication that I was some sort of lunatic/sociopath (I guess) for not being incredibly shook up about the entire situation. It doesn't sound like that's the case here but I think the 'five stages of grief' aspect should be taken with a grain of salt as it doesn't apply to everyone equally.
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Apr 29, 2014 12:09
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Saki posted:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ea-9300202.html He was on Question Time on the eve of Gay Marriages coming in and he was all red faced as he said something to the effect of "Its law now but its still unnatural' and he was bursting to go much much further. So no, not reasonable at all. The strides forward that the LGBT community has made since 1967 alone, whilst sill not enough, are considerable. To think it is an illness that can be cured is victorian and totally repugnant in every way, and I cannot tell you how much it disheartens me that views like this are still given air, and are likely just what he thinks he can get away with in this 'PC gone mad' environment. The only thing that gives me heart is my brothers funeral last year. He was gay, and not shy about it, but the chapel was packed out with all sorts, from young girls, married couples, old ladies to hairy arsed middle aged builders who all attended because they were his friends. Lots of the latter group I also know, and are keen on voting UKIP from a self preservation standpoint, but not one of them cared he was gay. I choose to hope that is representative of society as a whole, not dear old Roger and his waxed moustache.
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Apr 29, 2014 12:17
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Saki posted:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ea-9300202.html Which part, the headline? There's a lot of his comments in that article, you'll have to be a bit more specific. Regarding the headline, if you take it literally then yes that is reasonable, but it's also irrelevant because none of the existing legislation forces anyone to like gay people. In fact I'm not sure how you would be able to draft a law that mandates liking gay people. I mean, what if someone merely pretends to like a gay person? If, deep down, they still don't like them, then they would be breaking the Like The Gays Act, but there would be no real way to enforce it without mandatory lie-detector testing on every UK citizen. So yes it's reasonable. That's what you meant, right?
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Apr 29, 2014 12:36
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Spangly A posted:Borderline personality disorder (BPD) (called emotionally unstable personality disorder, emotional intensity disorder, borderline type in the ICD-10) You can understand why clinicians hate dealing with it; I don't really think non-PD specialized mental health staff should be going near BPDs at all. They are smart enough to out-think the majority of people and deceptive enough to manipulate most staff who haven't dealt with it multiple times before. Also, female BPD vs male psychatrist with no PD experience is gonna end with the psychiatrist getting fired for sleeping with patients more than a trivial portion of the time.
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Apr 29, 2014 12:38
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Trickjaw posted:The only thing that gives me heart is my brothers funeral last year. He was gay, and not shy about it, but the chapel was packed out with all sorts, from young girls, married couples, old ladies to hairy arsed middle aged builders who all attended because they were his friends. Lots of the latter group I also know, and are keen on voting UKIP from a self preservation standpoint, but not one of them cared he was gay. I choose to hope that is representative of society as a whole, not dear old Roger and his waxed moustache.
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Apr 29, 2014 12:41
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http://www.facedementia.org/ An insight into the symptoms of dementia, requires facebook. Pretty good idea, skims some info and pictures from your facebook profile and talks about what it would be like for them to disappear. It doesn't edit the information or post things if you don't want it to. Dementia is a horrible disease, the gradual loss of the memories that makes you who you are. Personalising ad campaigns like this is an excellent way to make the issue hit home. Ideally enough funding would come from central sources to research this, but cuts must be made, and so the cost of R&D is foisted onto the people who can least afford it (mainly the family of alzeimers sufferers). Don't read the comments for the story on the BBC website, someone has already claimed that dementia is caused by fluoride...
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Apr 29, 2014 12:47
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Reminder that hacks from the Mail and Torygraph have been tweeting kids to try and get info on that poor teacher that got stabbed.
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Apr 29, 2014 12:53
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I was being facetious. Of course it isn't reasonable, it's crazy.
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Apr 29, 2014 13:10
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KKKlean Energy posted:Regarding the headline, if you take it literally then yes that is reasonable I dislike Yorkshire Tea so much I refuse to allow any in my houses that I own because I am a peculiar homophobic landlord, how's that?  I also never shut up about how much I dislike this one kind of tea. Anyone mentions tea, I'll be sure to air my opinion that all tea is ruined by the mere existence of Yorkshire. But it's okay, because it's just tea! (all analogies are poo poo, hth)
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Apr 29, 2014 13:12
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Saki posted:I was being facetious. Of course it isn't reasonable, it's crazy. Oh, sorry. I... I had to make sure.
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Apr 29, 2014 13:12
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CancerCakes posted:http://www.facedementia.org/ I respect the motivations behind it, but that website is facile as gently caress. Is watching a photo of an angry goat I posted on Facebook disappear really giving me an insight into dementia?
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Apr 29, 2014 13:23
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Renaissance Robot posted:I dislike Yorkshire Tea so much I refuse to allow any in my houses that I own because I am a peculiar homophobic landlord, how's that? I like trying different kinds of tea, I guess I'm chai-curious...
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Apr 29, 2014 13:24
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Zero Star posted:Reminder that hacks from the Mail and Torygraph have been tweeting kids to try and get info on that poor teacher that got stabbed. Daily Mail are currently going with the idea that Dark Souls was a primary cause.
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Apr 29, 2014 13:28
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little help? in yesterday's times there was a sidebar about patrick o'flynn Ukip's comms director. he'd apparantly accidentaly texted something rude about one of their journalists to the journalist in question. does anyone have a copy? or a pic of it? i saw it on twitter at the time but buggered if i can find it now. it's for a project; do not ask what the project is
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Apr 29, 2014 13:35
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tdrules posted:Daily Mail are currently going with the idea that Dark Souls was a primary cause. Oh god you're not joking.  Also blamed: 'goth' metal, antidepressants, paracetamol, Satan v---It's all over their homepage, don't bother.
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Apr 29, 2014 13:37
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tdrules posted:Daily Mail are currently going with the idea that Dark Souls was a primary cause. Source?
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Lord Twisted posted:Source? They also put the Dark Souls 2 trailer in there. Because they're Journalists and the people need to know.
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Apr 29, 2014 13:56
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Did anyone really think we'd import the US's school killings culture without the associated media crazy ?
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Apr 29, 2014 13:58
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This wouldn't have happened if every teacher carried a knife.
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Apr 29, 2014 14:03
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Jesus, he couldn't be any more the absolute stereotype of a school shooter. Anyone would think we'd learn to recognise the signs rather than demonising these poor kids.
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Apr 29, 2014 14:05
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KKKlean Energy posted:This wouldn't have happened if every teacher carried a knife. 
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Apr 29, 2014 14:06
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Praseodymi posted:Jesus, he couldn't be any more the absolute stereotype of a school shooter. Anyone would think we'd learn to recognise the signs rather than demonising these poor kids. Its what the Mail does best. Mind you, this all just from the Mail/Telegraph so far, and they do enjoy cherry-picking identifying factors, and mobilising the 'THINK OF THE CHILDREN!' bandwagon
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Apr 29, 2014 14:08
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Praseodymi posted:Jesus, he couldn't be any more the absolute stereotype of a school shooter. Anyone would think we'd learn to recognise the signs rather than demonising these poor kids. He's a stereotype of a teenager, not of a school shooter.
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Apr 29, 2014 14:08
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drat, how could we not notice the massive rise in stabbings since dark souls came out?? Wait, there wasn't one? Oh.
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Apr 29, 2014 14:09
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What do you mean we just had a record breaking violent crime drop? Video games cure violence? Bring it to the presses once you're done doing those illegal things!!
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Apr 29, 2014 14:11
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Spangly A posted:drat, how could we not notice the massive rise in stabbings since dark souls came out?? Yes, but a sequel has come out. Thats what triggers the sleeper agent teenagers, after being programmed by the first one.
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Apr 29, 2014 14:13
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Mr. Flunchy posted:He's a stereotype of a teenager, not of a school shooter. He's at best the stereotype of a moody teenager. Considering that apparently every pupil interviewed described him as an outcast or a weirdo, and he's at the age where mental illness usually makes itself known he should be at the top of the list for people to keep an eye on in case they become a serial killer.
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Trickjaw posted:Yes, but a sequel has come out. Thats what triggers the sleeper agent teenagers, after being programmed by the first one. Being serious, since we know that media storms over killings are basically the only thing that reliably increase killings independent of other factors, are there any MPs who would like to take the Mail to the cleaners about this?
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Praseodymi posted:Jesus, he couldn't be any more the absolute stereotype of a school shooter. Anyone would think we'd learn to recognise the signs rather than demonising these poor kids. The only school shooter in the UK was a middle aged man with a scout obsession.
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That article posted:He added: ‘He came to a party a few weeks ago and he took some paracetamol beforehand. He used to take drugs all the time.’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PezlFNTGWv4 Jack the Lad fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Apr 29, 2014 |
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Apr 29, 2014 14:22
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I understand the need to ask 'Why?' but it irks me they always fall back on tired old cliches. The boy can't be denied to have had some mental issues, it should highlight the lack of effective mental care and prevention in this country. Spangly, no MP is going to take the rational approach you suggest when they can sail against strawmen that the public have been told to accept. Its shocking, and awful, but things like this don't just happen as a result of exposure to popular culture.
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Apr 29, 2014 14:23
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We should just be happy that they didn't mention he liked Crash Bandicoot too.
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Apr 29, 2014 14:25
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The argument that video games cause violence fail from a meta analysis point of view - more people are playing video games all the time, yet violent crime is decreasing. If one caused the other they would have a proportional relationship, but they don't. There are always going to be people who are predisposed to violent acts, more normally due to their individual backgrounds and situations. Blaming video games increases the chances that these violent acts will occur as it prevents better solutions getting the attention they deserve and also increases the chances of similar acts through media exposure.
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Apr 29, 2014 15:02
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 Meanwhile, in Thatcher's Britain(tm)
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Apr 29, 2014 15:07
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Oh my god you weren't joking about the paracetemol thing. The kids have to be taking the piss, absolutely have to. No way kids are loving naive enough to think Paracetemol is a "drug".
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Apr 29, 2014 15:12
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:
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Apr 29, 2014 15:14
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 This sort of thing is counter-productive also I am a special and unique snowflake with a self diagnosed personality disorder
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Apr 29, 2014 15:35
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Sorry I may have missed it but is this UKIP freepost thing a myth? Will it actually cost them?
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Apr 29, 2014 15:56
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Yup, it costs. Sent mine back today.
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