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I always thought it was more "Israel is in the Bible, so it's good" than a future-focused milennarian thing. Is there some evidence otherwise I could read?
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Kellsterik posted:I always thought it was more "Israel is in the Bible, so it's good" than a future-focused milennarian thing. Is there some evidence otherwise I could read? The Book of Revelations 
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Apr 29, 2014 01:51
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Kellsterik posted:I always thought it was more "Israel is in the Bible, so it's good" than a future-focused milennarian thing. Is there some evidence otherwise I could read? I think it's a bit of both, really. There are some higher-profile nutjob preachers like John Hagee who go on about Israel and end-times prophesy, but I don't know how much of a following they have.
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Apr 29, 2014 01:52
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What IS this?
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Big Beef City posted:What IS this? Pretty sure that's this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAC_Building It's really neat.
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Apr 29, 2014 03:41
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Install Windows, no...I don't think it's come to that.
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handbanana125 posted:Not to break up the Bundy chat, but here's another Conservative hero going off and saying something incredibly stupid: Not to mention the loaded Christian hegemony of forcing a 'baptism' on people who are largely muslims. I'm sure the Christian dominionists she was blowing the dog-whistle at were getting their Pavlov slobber on.
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Apr 29, 2014 07:36
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Mark Levin was going absolutely apeshit about the Kerry apartheid comments if anyone was still wondering. Like, more angry than usual. Apparently if you support a two-state solution you are an anti-Semite. who knew.
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Apr 29, 2014 07:54
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Apparently if you support a two-state solution you are an anti-Semite. who knew. You're an anti-Semite if you hold any other position than eradicating all Muslims.
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Apr 29, 2014 08:21
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Kellsterik posted:I always thought it was more "Israel is in the Bible, so it's good" than a future-focused milennarian thing. Is there some evidence otherwise I could read? Melani McAlister's Epic Encounters does a pretty good job covering the eschatological basis for American support for Israel.
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Apr 29, 2014 12:51
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I really don't understand how pro-Israel people love to poo poo on the domesticated, shifty-eyed, media controlling hebe; however, our support of Israel is of the most important thing since sliced bread. *posts pictures of women in the IDF*
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Apr 29, 2014 16:04
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One of the two are actively killing Arabs. The End Times stuff has seemingly gone more underground, when I was a kid it was much more prevalent in religious news media. I don't really see why they would want to prevent the Tribulation, since it all has to happen before Jesus comes back anyway. Unless they think they're delaying the second coming by supporting Isreal, to buy more time before Christ weighs their shriveled hearts.
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Apr 29, 2014 16:20
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Isn't Levin a dual citizen of the United States and Israel?
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Apr 29, 2014 16:32
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Japan is to weeaboos as Israel is to Tom Clancy readers.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Mark Levin was going absolutely apeshit about the Kerry apartheid comments if anyone was still wondering. Like, more angry than usual. Mark Levin has said several times that the term neoconservative is inherently anti-semitic, so all liberals and libertarians are automatically anti-semites.
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Apr 29, 2014 17:00
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Star Man posted:You're an anti-Semite if you hold any other position than eradicating all Non Jewish Semitic People. Fixed that for you.
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emptyspace posted:I think it's a bit of both, really. There are some higher-profile nutjob preachers like John Hagee who go on about Israel and end-times prophesy, but I don't know how much of a following they have. I always get the impression that the biblical end-times angle for support of Israel is more of an ad-hoc rationalization. Israel is important to the American political right-wing and its population is largely made up of a bunch of white westerners and eastern europeans as opposed to those other people from the middle east therefore god must approve for some reason oh hey here's this dominionist nonsense that'll work.
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Apr 29, 2014 17:34
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Republicans get really excited when two of their disparate interest groups find a natural place to come together rather than having to come up with complicated stupid reasons for doing so. Israel is a decent one between religious kooks and neo-con military fetishists.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Republicans get really excited when two of their disparate interest groups find a natural place to come together rather than having to come up with complicated stupid reasons for doing so. Israel is a decent one between religious kooks and neo-con military fetishists. It's exactly this. My dad supports Israel because he's a literal draft-dodging neocon. My brother-in-law supports Israel because he's got poo poo for brains and apparently some loving invisible sky-man told him he has to. The Republicans have used a single stone to murder two birds.
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Apr 29, 2014 18:12
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moths posted:One of the two are actively killing Arabs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_time quote:The main tenets of Jewish eschatology are the following, in no particular order:[6] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Coming quote:Judaism believes that Jesus is one of the false Jewish Messiah claimants because he failed to fulfill any Messianic prophecies, which include: Fundamentalist American Christians (especially Baptists) believe that they can hurry the return of Christ by supporting Israel, unconditionally, and therefore see the Return, the Trump, and their own fleshy ascendance to heaven. Their entire goal is to be alive when Jesus returns, to never lie in the cold ground, and to have a special place in heaven by being an agent of the Second Coming. anonumos fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Apr 29, 2014 |
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Grand Theft Autobot posted:The Republicans have used a single stone to murder two birds. I believe you mean lawful killing, sir.
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Apr 29, 2014 18:23
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Phone posted:I believe you mean lawful killing, sir. These birds are in fact white males, so, unfortunately, not.
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So, Sterling lost the Clippers. Who's yet to record a show, Rush and Hannity? I imagine that'll be a focus.
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Apr 29, 2014 19:27
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Tatum Girlparts posted:So, Sterling lost the Clippers. They can't force him to sell, but they banned him for life from any and all NBA events and fined him the maximum allowed under their constitution.
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Apr 29, 2014 19:31
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anonumos posted:Fundamentalist American Christians (especially Baptists) believe that they can hurry the return of Christ by supporting Israel, unconditionally, and therefore see the Return, the Trump, and their own fleshy ascendance to heaven. Their entire goal is to be alive when Jesus returns, to never lie in the cold ground, and to have a special place in heaven by being an agent of the Second Coming.  Tatum Girlparts posted:So, Sterling lost the Clippers. CNN (Yeah, yeah CNN) posted:The National Basketball Association has banned Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling from basketball for life and fined him $2.5 million racist remarks attributed to him in recordings posted online, NBA Commissioner Adam Silver announced Tuesday.
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Apr 29, 2014 19:32
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Tatum Girlparts posted:So, Sterling lost the Clippers. I was out washing my car and Rush was all going on about the whole thing being planned from the shadows by Magic Johnson and some business partners to acquire the team.
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Apr 29, 2014 19:41
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Zeroisanumber posted:They can't force him to sell The commissioner said he's going to try though. Which will be fun.
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ReidRansom posted:I was out washing my car and Rush was all going on about the whole thing being planned from the shadows by Magic Johnson and some business partners to acquire the team. Rush will never stop being bitter about getting locked out of professional sports. comes along bort posted:The commissioner said he's going to try though. Which will be fun. He can do it if he gets 3/4ths of the NBA's Board of Governors (i.e. other team owners) to agree that the team needs to be sold. Whether or not they'll go along with it depends on the public's reaction and the players' reaction to the punishment. If public response is generally positive and Kobe and LeBron come out and say that they're satisfied with the result, then that'll be the end of it.
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ReidRansom posted:I was out washing my car and Rush was all going on about the whole thing being planned from the shadows by Magic Johnson and some business partners to acquire the team. Well, thats sort of true. Magic has made some comments about wanting to buy the team after he said that stuff, but funnily enough not when he had that whole "smelly blacks" slumlord problem in the 90s. If you want more info from dudes who know a heck of a lot more info about sterling we have a thread in SAS about it, http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3629116
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Zeroisanumber posted:They can't force him to sell Well, technically yes, but they can vote to terminate his ownership, take control of the team, then have the NBA sell it. It takes 3/4ths of the owners to vote in favor, but given all that's happened, I doubt that vote fails if it's taken.
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Zeroisanumber posted:Rush will never stop being bitter about getting locked out of professional sports. Kobe and Lebron have both already come out and said that there is no place for this poo poo and wouldn't play for him. A lot of other players have too, I heard Chauncey Billups saying he wouldn't have come out for the playoff game on Sunday either. That would have been a huge statement and I was sad that the team didn't do that.
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Ramadu posted:Kobe and Lebron have both already come out and said that there is no place for this poo poo and wouldn't play for him. A lot of other players have too, I heard Chauncey Billups saying he wouldn't have come out for the playoff game on Sunday either. That would have been a huge statement and I was sad that the team didn't do that. I'm certain that the league was talking to the players on the Clippers almost immediately to make sure that they didn't boycott and cost the NBA a bunch of money, especially after Golden State said that they wouldn't accept a win by default. Commissioner Silver did a pretty good job of managing the situation considering that the players were about a half-step away from open revolt on Sunday afternoon. LeBron James has posted a reaction to Twitter: LeBron James posted:Commissioner Silver thank you for protecting our beautiful and powerful league!! Great leader!! #BiggerThanBasketball #StriveForGreatness Zeroisanumber fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Apr 29, 2014 |
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So is Rush contending that the audio is fake? Or that the real crime here is that a rich white mans phone call was leaked? I don't see how you can declare something a giant conspiracy against someone when the...ahem...lynchpin of the whole thing is the person themselves being a verifiable racist coot?
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fade5 posted:This is the blasphemous part I was getting at earlier. Even taking way too many of their beliefs at face value, the fact that they think they can force God's hand by their actions is just completely insane. Depends. There is a long tradition of rules-lawyering in Judaism. It isn't as common in Christianity but there isn't (to my knowledge) a reason why the same principles couldn't be applied.
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Zeroisanumber posted:I'm certain that the league was talking to the players on the Clippers almost immediately to make sure that they didn't boycott and cost the NBA a bunch of money, especially after Golden State said that they wouldn't accept a win by default. Something about that LeBron tweet makes me think of KJI/KJU and I'm terribly amused by it
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Intel&Sebastian posted:So is Rush contending that the audio is fake? Or that the real crime here is that a rich white mans phone call was leaked? I don't see how you can declare something a giant conspiracy against someone when the...ahem...lynchpin of the whole thing is the person themselves being a verifiable racist coot? He probably is flogging the idea that V. Stiviano knew that Sterling is a racist gently caress and colluded with her friend Magic Johnson to catch him on tape so that they can force the league to force him to sell his franchise to Magic and his investors.
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Apr 29, 2014 20:22
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Zeroisanumber posted:He probably is flogging the idea that V. Stiviano knew that Sterling is a racist gently caress and colluded with her friend Magic Johnson to catch him on tape so that they can force the league to force him to sell his franchise to Magic and his investors. Good. Even if that's not the case I hope every racist motherfucker out there believes it. Nowhere is safe assholes, everyone you know and love is part of a giant conspiracy to catch you just being you and sell everything you have to a scary black man. Retreat to the inner circle of luddites and grouse all night about how you can't even tell your trophy girlfriend to quit blacking it up on a private phone conversation anymore.
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Zeroisanumber posted:... This is a detail that needs clearing up for me. If 3/4ths of the Board all vote the same way, they can vote to terminate his ownership. I've seen it mentioned that this is a point of leverage the League can use to force him to sell. So if they vote to terminate his ownership, does that mean he's basically fired and can't sell the team for a profit? Because that seems like what needs to happen.
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Buried alive posted:This is a detail that needs clearing up for me. If 3/4ths of the Board all vote the same way, they can vote to terminate his ownership. I've seen it mentioned that this is a point of leverage the League can use to force him to sell. So if they vote to terminate his ownership, does that mean he's basically fired and can't sell the team for a profit? Because that seems like what needs to happen. As it's been explained to me, the NBA is made up of a home office and the teams are just franchises of the NBA brand. Essentially, the Board of Governors would be voting to terminate his franchise rights. If he loses his franchise rights, he's forced to sell the team. So regardless of what happens he's still going to be able to sell the franchise at a profit.
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If they can't force him to sell, and he can just lay in the cut cashing his checks, the new team president should just send him a check for 1 cent every year and give the rest of the prophets to charity. Edit: ^^^^oic.
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