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How were you "supposed" to find those areas? Like just randomly click around the map? Or was that one you were supposed to find from "Bikanel and Kilika join as one"?
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fronz posted:How were you "supposed" to find those areas? Like just randomly click around the map? Or was that one you were supposed to find from "Bikanel and Kilika join as one"? I think there are messages hidden around in Al Bhed with the "passwords" for the areas. So I think the idea was you're supposed to find a bunch of Al Bhed primers and then read the clues. For example, I think one is on the same screen where you fight Khimari at the beginning of the game.
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Apr 29, 2014 20:06
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Bregor posted:I pretty much finish every battle with Auron. "Farewell." *WHACK* Definitely satisfying. ApplesandOranges posted:The best one is when you start the party with Yuna/Lulu/Wakka and Yuna does an impression of 'Lots of fiends around here, ya?' and Lulu goes, 'Stop that.' Is there ANYWHERE where I can just listen to all the battle dialog between characters? cause there are so many I haven't heard
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Apr 29, 2014 20:13
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Schwartzcough posted:I think there are messages hidden around in Al Bhed with the "passwords" for the areas. So I think the idea was you're supposed to find a bunch of Al Bhed primers and then read the clues. For example, I think one is on the same screen where you fight Khimari at the beginning of the game. Yeah that's the implication; there's only like 4 clues in total (some are split so there's more places but whatever) but they're for the three passwords and Kimahri's crest. That's kind of a weird one because it's at Baaj in a dumb half-riddle but whatever.
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Apr 29, 2014 20:20
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Is there ANYWHERE where I can just listen to all the battle dialog between characters? cause there are so many I haven't heard Rikku: Woaaahhh... Say, is that edible?
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Apr 29, 2014 20:23
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Schwartzcough posted:I think there are messages hidden around in Al Bhed with the "passwords" for the areas. So I think the idea was you're supposed to find a bunch of Al Bhed primers and then read the clues. For example, I think one is on the same screen where you fight Khimari at the beginning of the game. Nah, I know about those. I'm thinking, like, the treasure chests in Besaid you get to by going to some random nearby coordinates.
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Apr 29, 2014 20:32
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fronz posted:Nah, I know about those. I'm thinking, like, the treasure chests in Besaid you get to by going to some random nearby coordinates. I'm pretty sure yeah youre just supposed to find it randomly. Japanese gamers are just more tolerant of that bullshit I think and back in the day it was more "OK" to have these obscure secrets you werent meant to find so your friend could totally own you at lunch with his random video game knowledge.
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Apr 29, 2014 20:37
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fronz posted:Nah, I know about those. I'm thinking, like, the treasure chests in Besaid you get to by going to some random nearby coordinates. I dunno how you're supposed to find all of them without a guide but based on a pretty good FAQ I'm using: Passwords: GODHAND MURASAME VICTORIOUS Coordinates: x:12-14 y:58-61 (Baaj Temple) x:40-42 y:57-59 (Battle Site) x:30-32 y:73-76 (Besaid Falls) x:34-36 y:56-58 (Mi'ihen Ruins) x:71-73 y:35-36 (Omega Ruins) x:13-15 y:42-44 (Sanubia Sands)
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Apr 29, 2014 20:39
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Polsy posted:Wasn't there a thing where all those quotes stop happening after a certain point in the game? Did they fix that? (assuming it was unintentional, I forget) Once you go inside sin they stop talking for all battles in all locations. THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Deathstrike Rikku is great too. She goes up to someone, does a little spin and says WHOOPS and they burst into a bunch of pyreflies. Lulu doesn't say anything but having a tiny doll waddle up to a iron giant and then deathstrike will never not be funny
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Apr 29, 2014 20:43
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Yeah lol that Omega Ruins is just middle of nowhere with no tips to find it.
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Apr 29, 2014 20:51
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Final Fantasy X is the first game I remember playing where having a guide wasn't just helpful, but was downright necessary to find a bunch of things. Has that always been the case with JRPGs or is that a relatively recent (er-- like I said, relatively) trend?
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Apr 29, 2014 21:04
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Evil Sagan posted:Final Fantasy X is the first game I remember playing where having a guide wasn't just helpful, but was downright necessary to find a bunch of things. Has that always been the case with JRPGs or is that a relatively recent (er-- like I said, relatively) trend? I recall VII having some pretty obscure stuff compared to previous FF games, like where you got the Breath Water materia (I think that's what it was called?) which wasn't necessary but helpful. All the chocobo stuff and level 4 limits were also pretty far outside of stuff an average gamer would find without a guide.
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Apr 29, 2014 21:59
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There have been JRPGs with obscure secrets for probing every corner of the world for a long time. See: Every SaGa game.
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Tales of the Abyss is the tour-de-force of 'obscure bullshit that's only available for a limited time.' They even locked extremely important backstory behind sidequests like that, which just baffles me.
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Yeah, the vast majority of sidequests in Tales of the Abyss are only available during specific windows you'd have no idea about playing the game normally.
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Apr 29, 2014 22:22
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How much would I have to pay someone to do the cunting chocobo racing minigame in FFX for me? Bonus if you do the 200 lightning dodges. E: Okay nm, just the lightning dodges. Waldorf Sixpence fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Apr 29, 2014 |
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Apr 29, 2014 22:42
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Evil Sagan posted:Final Fantasy X is the first game I remember playing where having a guide wasn't just helpful, but was downright necessary to find a bunch of things. Has that always been the case with JRPGs or is that a relatively recent (er-- like I said, relatively) trend? Final Fantasy IX is the absolute worst with this. Even with a guide it's hard to 100% the game because everything is locked under these limited time windows. ...and lets not get started if you were trying to use the PlayOnline guide.
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Apr 29, 2014 22:49
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RagnarokAngel posted:Final Fantasy IX is the absolute worst with this. Even with a guide it's hard to 100% the game because everything is locked under these limited time windows. Excalibur II
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Apr 29, 2014 22:58
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It's totally possible to 100% FFIX even with Excalibur II.
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Apr 29, 2014 23:03
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Barely. It involves not only skipping FMVs by reloading the disc, but also savescumming everywhere to avoid random encounters.
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Apr 29, 2014 23:05
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fronz posted:Yeah lol that Omega Ruins is just middle of nowhere with no tips to find it. I knew that there were some additional areas on the map but I did not know where they were, but I was actually able to find almost all of them in about a minute by just winging the stick around wildly and spamming x. It seems real stupid that they even have that step to lock em out, but this game is chock full of weird poo poo anyway so "why not".
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Apr 29, 2014 23:07
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RagnarokAngel posted:Final Fantasy IX is the absolute worst with this. Even with a guide it's hard to 100% the game because everything is locked under these limited time windows.  Edit: I payed like 20 dollars for a book that just told me to look poo poo up on the internet.
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Apr 29, 2014 23:47
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MrAristocrates posted:Yeah, the vast majority of sidequests in Tales of the Abyss are only available during specific windows you'd have no idea about playing the game normally. Symphonia does the same thing. If I remember right, a couple sidequests open up when you finally open the door to the final boss. The game makes no mention of this.
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Apr 29, 2014 23:50
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Skeezy posted:Symphonia does the same thing. If I remember right, a couple sidequests open up when you finally open the door to the final boss. The game makes no mention of this. In Symphonia, a few new ones and all of the old ones that you might've missed when they're available reappear, yeah. You have to walk up to the door and then turn around for no reason. It's weird.
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Apr 29, 2014 23:53
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Nihilarian posted:That was such a lovely guide I barely ever used it, yet it's the only guide I still own. I suppose because I didn't use it much. My dad bought that book and he found it hilarious. Even more so when the preface for the FFX guide said "Welcome to the fully comprehensive Final Fantasy X strategy guide."
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Apr 29, 2014 23:54
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Volt Catfish posted:Excalibur II Eh. You can't not do 9999 damage by that point in the game with Steiner. You might as well have won it from Ozma. Pneub fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Apr 29, 2014 |
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Apr 29, 2014 23:54
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MrAristocrates posted:In Symphonia, a few new ones and all of the old ones that you might've missed when they're available reappear, yeah. You have to walk up to the door and then turn around for no reason. It's weird. The idea is that you beat the Final Boss, save, and then do the postgame sidequests.
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Oh, right. I forgot you could save after fighting the final boss in that game.
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Except, unlike later Tales games, loading the clear data save starts a new game. So yes, they really expect you to see the final scene before the final boss teleporter, turn around, and walk back out.
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Admiral H. Curtiss posted:Except, unlike later Tales games, loading the clear data save starts a new game. Eh, Star Ocean 2 basically did the same thing. Was cool to discover, I thought then.
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Pneub posted:Eh. You can't not do 9999 damage by that point in the game with Steiner. You might as well have won it from Ozma. It's more a trophy to prove you speedran the game.
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Is there any way to avoid earth eaters flare counters? The fight isnt hard but the drat spell animation makes it take forever
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Apr 30, 2014 04:58
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Nope! Wait till you can kill him in three Attack Reels before grinding him.
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Waldorf Sixpence posted:How much would I have to pay someone to do the cunting chocobo racing minigame in FFX for me? Bonus if you do the 200 lightning dodges. Let me know if you find out. Sheesh. I just can't even motivate myself to attempt trying to get a quicker run on the race. I would really like to have Tidus and Lulu's celestials regardless of how 'necessary' they may or may not be.
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fronz posted:Yeah lol that Omega Ruins is just middle of nowhere with no tips to find it. I found it without a guide this time around  The list I saw online had the wrong coordinates so I just looked around and got it.I'm at the point in the game now where I need to go get Anima to beat stuff I can't beat otherwise yet and I'm doing all these destruction sphere puzzles I missed. God the puzzles in FFX suck. If that didn't make things worse I need to get the Sigil for Wakka since I have all his overdrives but it didn't pop up... so I either have to reset data and lose all the Blitz stuff I did, or play another league and hope that I only have to play 10 MORE games after it
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:If that didn't make things worse I need to get the Sigil for Wakka since I have all his overdrives but it didn't pop up... so I either have to reset data and lose all the Blitz stuff I did, or play another league and hope that I only have to play 10 MORE games after it Unless you're really attached to your current team, do this. I did this in my current playthrough, as in I played a few BB league/tourney games at each savesphere in the main plot and picked up the Overdrives in the process, then when I got access to the airship I reset data until the sigil showed up as a prize and then flew around Spira to form a Level 1 Super Blitz team. 10 (technically 8) games later I had the sigil and said goodbye to BB for good. The only trouble I had was that I had to play the Psyches in my second game. Ouch. Syrant posted:Let me know if you find out. Sheesh. I just can't even motivate myself to attempt trying to get a quicker run on the race. I would really like to have Tidus and Lulu's celestials regardless of how 'necessary' they may or may not be. I got to 137 lightning dodges before getting hit. That was a few weeks ago and I haven't tried again since. gently caress you, Lulu.
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Admiral H. Curtiss posted:Except, unlike later Tales games, loading the clear data save starts a new game. Why do they do dumb poo poo like this? It makes no sense to me.
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Oxygen Deficiency posted:Unless you're really attached to your current team, do this. I have 2 members of the Psyches on my current team  Oh well.What does level 1 super team look like endgame? Wakka's not too great at level 1 is he? Ugh I don't even want to think what a match without Jecht Shot is like.
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Tatts and 5 other dudes because who gives a gently caress when you have Invisible Shot e: Miyu on goalie is pretty decent too Xenogenesis fucked around with this message at 10:41 on Apr 30, 2014 |
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Xenogenesis posted:Tatts and 5 other dudes because who gives a gently caress when you have Invisible Shot Huh I managed to never hire this guy.
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