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attackmole posted:This is totally out of nowhere, but sometimes I forget how intimidating Renan Barao's record looks on wikipedia. You just look at it and are like daaaaang that's a long green streak. My dream is that every fight outside of a Zuffa owned org is treated as an amateur fight, only for the purpose of your record. So many fighters have 25 fights in small orgs and look like killers, then they come in the UFC and they are just a middle of the pack fighter (I'm looking at you Hector Lombard). It would get rid of losses at the beginning of careers such as Barao's and Jose Aldo.
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"Middle of the pack fighter" is an interesting title to saddle someone with after they broke Jake Shields like that.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:"Middle of the pack fighter" is an interesting title to saddle someone with after they broke Jake Shields like that. And lost to The Barbarian.
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attackmole posted:This is totally out of nowhere, but sometimes I forget how intimidating Renan Barao's record looks on wikipedia. You just look at it and are like daaaaang that's a long green streak. Barao's really good, but with those long Brazilian z-league records I kind of treat it like most professional boxers padded out records (not that impressed). I only really start counting wins when the guys listed have wikipedia pages (Obviously there are exceptions).
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Fozzy The Bear posted:And lost to The Barbarian. who is a tough son of a bitch that had just beat the poo poo out of yushin okami
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attackmole posted:This is totally out of nowhere, but sometimes I forget how intimidating Renan Barao's record looks on wikipedia. You just look at it and are like daaaaang that's a long green streak. I took this with a grain of salt initially, this one too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khabib_Nurmagomedov#Mixed_martial_arts_record It turns out, sometimes, some of these guys really are just that loving good (however the majority are not - come to the UFC, lose two straight, and are never heard from again).
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Fozzy The Bear posted:My dream is that every fight outside of a Zuffa owned org is treated as an amateur fight, only for the purpose of your record. lol
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Lid posted:I took this with a grain of salt initially, this one too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khabib_Nurmagomedov#Mixed_martial_arts_record Magomed Magomedov
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masato tatanka posted:Postam Badilov mods, i seriously want this name (and deserve it)
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now is probably the best of all times to lionise the worth of having a ufc record
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A UFC win is still worth magnitudes more than a win over a 0-2 Sri Lankan "Wushu practitioner" in the SFL.
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Seltzer posted:A UFC win is still worth magnitudes more than a win over a 0-2 Sri Lankan "Wushu practitioner" in the SFL. Up next on Fight Pass, Royston Wee vs. an 0-2 Sri Lankan Wushu practitioner
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The numbers on any record are way less important than the names next to them, and that's true in the UFC as well as outside. Sure, it's easier to pile up a 10 win streak against trash in M-1 or Parking Lot Fights: Minnesota than it is in the UFC, but even there you get guys going 4-0 against local scrubs and then guys going 2-2 against the top of the division.
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Stefan Struve's record would depressing if we got rid of all his Euro b-league wins so please, goon, have a heart.
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UFC is a lot better for nobody really giving a poo poo if you have 9 losses on your record as long as they're to decent fighters. Better then every guy needing to be 903-0-0 (Def. Realguy Notfake at 1:23 of the 4th round via K.O.) before he's allowed to have a real fight and instantly becoming a bum if he loses.
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Bubba Smith posted:Stefan Struve's record would depressing if we got rid of all his Euro b-league wins so please, goon, have a heart. 
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Keven. Just. Keven posted:UFC is a lot better for nobody really giving a poo poo if you have 9 losses on your record as long as they're to decent fighters. Better then every guy needing to be 903-0-0 (Def. Realguy Notfake at 1:23 of the 4th round via K.O.) before he's allowed to have a real fight and instantly becoming a bum if he loses. Chris Lytle was a professional boxer Joe, amassing 13 victories including over the infamous Reggie Strickland.
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Keven. Just. Keven posted:UFC is a lot better for nobody really giving a poo poo if you have 9 losses on your record as long as they're to decent fighters. Better then every guy needing to be 903-0-0 (Def. Realguy Notfake at 1:23 of the 4th round via K.O.) before he's allowed to have a real fight and instantly becoming a bum if he loses. this forever. gently caress boxing.
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Cain Velasquez was a staggering 2-0 when he debuted in the UFC and had not fought in 16 months. Chris Weidman 4-0. Johny Hendricks 5-0 (3-0 if you include WEC). Jon Jones 6-0.
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Brock Lesnar 86 - 28. What?
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Brock Lesnar has the most impressive record in history by a MMA fighter. He is the 1 in 21-1
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Lid posted:Chris Lytle was a professional boxer Joe, amassing 13 victories including over the infamous Reggie Strickland. Chris Lytle, the Michael Jordan of boxing.
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I know this was meant to be a hit piece or whatever but it just made Wanderlei look like a big baby once again
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Zwachro posted:Yea, I'm wondering if their being twins will get them into the house (or get them a shot, anyway, they're having a fight-off are they not?) just due to the reality TV aspect. I've seen this idea come up a lot, and I just think it's really silly, particularly when this is a world title tournament. It would be pretty silly to deny a spot to an rear end-kicker like Justine Kish or a highly skilled veteran who's given her life to this sport like Lisa Ellis just to go with the "twins" angle, when Jocelyn is borderline and Jillian is all of 0-1 (5-5 amateur). The UFC has gone all in with the sports route as of TUF 17 it seems, and I don't expect this to be any different. I believe the interviews are just to weed out people who are dull as dirt at this point (and then sign those people directly if they're good).
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This is really funny and pathetic at the same time. It's worse than when he confronted Chael at that convention. The clips are taken awfully out of context and the subtitles are frequently misleading. It's like Wanderlei saw his favorability ratings going down in Brazil after TUF and had to literally recreate a political attack ad to remedy it. You could make a minute thirty video that would make Wanderlei look a ton worse by just splicing together video of him starting fights in pride, starting the tuf fight, and video of him beating up teens then fading to black. Also Wanderlei I want my royalty money for that fruity loops beat that starts four minutes in.
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i wish chael would run for emperor of brazil or whatever they have. there's no way money laundering is recognised as a crime there and making brazil love him over wanderlei silva must qualify him for citizenship
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Did I just watch a loving attack ad on Chael Sonnen? This is incredible
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Seltzer posted:This is really funny and pathetic at the same time. It's worse than when he confronted Chael at that convention. The clips are taken awfully out of context and the subtitles are frequently misleading. It's like Wanderlei saw his favorability ratings going down in Brazil after TUF and had to literally recreate a political attack ad to remedy it. You could make a minute thirty video that would make Wanderlei look a ton worse by just splicing together video of him starting fights in pride, starting the tuf fight, and video of him beating up teens then fading to black. It's like both guys are trying to promote a fight and have been doing so for about a year (longer for Chael.)
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Marching Powder posted:i wish chael would run for emperor of brazil or whatever they have. there's no way money laundering is recognised as a crime there "Chael Sonnen, Executive VP - Banco Noroeste" the video is hilarious and I'm glad Wandy is trying to promote the fight in the same way that he does everything else: ridiculously earnest (e: earnestly ridiculous?)
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MassRafTer posted:It's like both guys are trying to promote a fight and have been doing so for about a year (longer for Chael.) No it's not. It's one person trying to promote a fight and another person being a completely sincere idiot (Also Wanderlei's video came out after Brazilians have turned on him and he looked like a complete idiot on national television). That video of Wanderlei giving Chael poo poo in that car about Brazil must be like 4 years old now.
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Seltzer posted:No it's not. It's one person trying to promote a fight and another person being a completely sincere idiot. That video of Wanderlei giving Chael poo poo in that car about Brazil must be like 4 years old now. If Wanderlei wasn't trying to make as much money as he can from this fight he wouldn't have tried to hold Dana up for PPV points last year after he put out that first promo video. I'm sure he hates Chael, but the guy is clearly trying to hype the fight too.
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I'm looking forward to Chael helping Wand back up to his feet at the end of round 5 of Chael's 50-40 win and watching the two men hug it out, laugh with each other and say they have immense hespect for each other now. And then for Wand to call him a bitch coward who didn't really fight 3 months later while Chael jokes about feeding carrots to buses again.
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I've never been a huge Chael fan or anything but I would really not be surprised if he finished Wanderlei
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MassRafTer posted:If Wanderlei wasn't trying to make as much money as he can from this fight he wouldn't have tried to hold Dana up for PPV points last year after he put out that first promo video. I'm sure he hates Chael, but the guy is clearly trying to hype the fight too. Some fighters are Muhammad Ali when hyping fights. Some fighters are Joe Frazier when hyping fights. I know you really want to believe but Wandy being a meta-hyper is so not the case.
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Turns out that Jon Jones is a goon, he read this thread and it has made him realise the error of his ways. His eye-pokes were accidental, but he admits that he could have prevented them and will endeavour to fight with a greater respect for his opponents in future. He explains it very succinctly in this video: http://youtu.be/gSLL2HCMSXU
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I think the whole Chael-Wanderlei thing comes down to this - these are two guys who are actually good friends outside of the camera and are pranking each other relentlessly leading up to their fight, taking nothing seriously along the way, knowing everyone will believe everything as real because of the TV. TV never ever lies or is set up to look fake. Ever. Meanwhile, one of them gets hurt legitimately in training. Christ knows which one actually, because for all we know the one hurt is the one calling out the other. Both parties act butthurt as hell all the way. Finally the fight happens. And then they grapple the poo poo out of each other to a five-round split decision. Huzzah. Both make millions upon millions in PPV revenue from crazy Brazilians and racist rednecks expecting to see a murder on behalf of their guy. Edit: I base this all on Wand apparently being one of the nicest guys on the planet and Chael making it his personal business to be as entertaining as possible outside of the cage. Completely scientific analysis. acejackson42 fucked around with this message at 12:17 on Apr 30, 2014 |
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