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The Devil Tesla posted:Mekaku is pretty tame for a shaft series but so was Nisekoi before it's swimsuit episode.
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Zorak posted:That situation was blown out of proportion as I recall (what a surprise, a skeevy pornography website not being the most reputable news source, who knew!), but the sentiment has popped up here and there outside of that situation. There's the situation that occurred where an idol was forced to apologize in tears to her fans for ruining her career for daring to have gone a date, which is yet another example of how extreme fandoms are weird. A textboard must be the worst pornsite imaginable. Did you mean futaba?
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Butt Frosted Cake posted:A textboard must be the worst pornsite imaginable. Did you mean futaba? He was referring to Sankaku Complex, not 2chan. Currently reading The Prague Cemetery, by Umberto Eco.
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Silver2195 posted:He was referring to Sankaku Complex, not 2chan. Oh, my bad. I saw the word source and I could only think of ascii goatse.
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SSNeoman posted:Right. Hey how about that Konojo ga Flag show? Is it worth watching? I was kind of down on the first episode, but by the end of the second I think I've gotten enough of a hang of it that I think I'll give it a shot. The tempo is super weird and it feels like they're packing too much into too little time, but once you get used to it the character comedy can be kinda funny. Just don't expect too much.
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They adapted the entire first volume of the LN into the first episode and I don't think they're slowing down, so its not surprising you feel that way.
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Apr 30, 2014 08:54
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aers posted:They adapted the entire first volume of the LN into the first episode and I don't think they're slowing down, so its not surprising you feel that way. This explains so much.
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Apr 30, 2014 09:06
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Yo you can understand something is problematic in media but still enjoy the entire package. Goons always deal in absolutes.
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Apr 30, 2014 09:56
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Joshlemagne posted:A few season threads ago someone brought up "My little sister can't be this cute" and you said pretty firmly "No. We don't talk about creepy sister loving anime here".
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Apr 30, 2014 11:54
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All I know is that the rest of the anime nerd internet had a collective meltdown over the show. We should have allowed it for honeypot reasons.
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Apr 30, 2014 12:06
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So as someone who decided that Kill la Kill wasn't my cup of tea, I thought people had high hopes for that show and liked it near the start. What happened that people are calling the show poo poo now?
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Apr 30, 2014 12:12
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The story was made up on the go and it showed. It's fun and I didn't regret watching it, but overall a ton of potential was wasted. Animation quality was also an issue, but that didn't bother me.
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Pureauthor posted:So as someone who decided that Kill la Kill wasn't my cup of tea, I thought people had high hopes for that show and liked it near the start. (Repeated) Horrifying incestuous molestation.
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Apr 30, 2014 12:15
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Pureauthor posted:So as someone who decided that Kill la Kill wasn't my cup of tea, I thought people had high hopes for that show and liked it near the start. -The main character just isn't very good. To steal someone else's words, she spends the entire show lurching from one existential crisis to the next without actually developing. -The main villain of the show is creepy in a hugely inappropriate and unnecessary manner. There were certainly some fun moments here and there but in the end it just kind became "OK" overall.
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Apr 30, 2014 12:21
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gobbledygoat posted:Yo you can understand something is problematic in media but still enjoy the entire package. Goons always deal in absolutes. I mostly lurk on here, but what I've always liked about ADTRW is that there are still posters here that would rather warn others and "read a book" than watch the latest pandering otaku-bait. Here's what I'm watching: Mushi-shi: Magical realism psychological House, MD. Really good. Simultaneously saving and justifying anime since 1853. Must watch. Ping Pong: A sports anime, a genre that I would not normally watch, but the director and his posse are saving anime since the early 2000s. Must watch. JoJo: Highly problematic and misogenistic on the outside, plain fun and with a heart of gold on the inside. That's Jotaro.  Chaika: Stupid fun anime version of that D&D campaign you played in your youth. Knights of Sidonia: Hard sci-fi harem romcom, end of transhumanity edition. The managa(ka) is really good! Dropped "One week friends", just not my cup of tea and "Captain Earth", which was apparently written by an eight-year old boy. Grim Up North fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Apr 30, 2014 |
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If there was one thing KLK did better than Gurren Lagann, it was that the side characters were great. I literally can't remember anything about TTGL's side characters. Those in KLK were great.
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Grim Up North posted:JoJo: Highly problematic and misogenistic on the outside, plain fun and with a heart of gold on the inside. Don't do this e: Also jesus, from looking it up it sounds like kinda forgetting to keep up with KLK after roughly episode 10 was a good choice. 
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Phobophilia posted:If there was one thing KLK did better than Gurren Lagann, it was that the side characters were great. I literally can't remember anything about TTGL's side characters.  There was also that one guy whose entire existence boiled down to him popping up from out of frame and hitting the 'fire missiles' button. He was cool.
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:The story was made up on the go and it showed. It's fun and I didn't regret watching it, but overall a ton of potential was wasted. Animation quality was also an issue, but that didn't bother me. Pretty much. The show had a huge amount of unnecessary elements in the second half and the plot quickly devolved into an incoherent mess where the writers were obviously making poo poo up week to week and not even doing a good job of it. People largely held out hope that it would turn-around by the end but the finale kinda sucked and made it obvious the show hadn't actually been building up to anything cool and at that point people started venting all at once. I don't regret watching it but I've no interest in seeing it again, either.
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Ultimately KlK should have probably been a single cour series and stuck with comedy rather than Serious Dramatic Action Extravaganza. Going back to this season, I think I'm going to drop Captain Earth. I just don't have the patience for that type of show anymore I guess, it just feels more dumb than usual. Like why do they insist on having such inane technobabble? It makes it feel like something the characters from Chuunibyo would write. Nate RFB fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Apr 30, 2014 |
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SSNeoman posted:Right. Hey how about that Konojo ga Flag show? Is it worth watching? It's similar to My Mental Choices from from a couple of seasons ago in that it has a lot '  anime' moments but I also find it far too amusing to stop watching. Also unlike that show it seems to have some sort of serious story brewing, though thus far it has had less than a minutes focus each episode.Probably also helps that I rarely if ever watch harem shows so one every so often isn't too grating.
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Nate RFB posted:Going back to this season, I think I'm going to drop Captain Earth. I just don't have the patience for that type of show anymore I guess, it just feels more dumb than usual. Like why do they insist on having such inane technobabble? It makes it feel like something the characters from Chuunibyo would write. I haven't gotten around to watching it yet, but from what I know of the show, isn't that  ?
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It doesn't really feel ironic, if that's what you meant. I'm pretty sure it's playing everything straight.
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It's by the creators of Star Driver, pretty sure there's nothing straight about it.
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Sakurazuka posted:It's by the creators of Star Driver, pretty sure there's nothing straight about it.
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I'm lumping the flag anime together with the mental choices anime and Date-A-Live as a breed of somewhat self-aware romcom shows, where the dude protagonist knows how ridiculous his situation is, only because the entire premise of the show is that he has some condition that forces him to deal with girls in a strange way. I like them for the ridiculous set-ups which I think all have managed to keep things amusing without running dry of material. One thing to note about Date-A-Live is that while the first season was mostly "clean" apart from the designated swimsuit-episodes, the new season has shown more skin in the first 3 episodes than the entire first season, especially due to the twins introduced. By no means great art, but still fine entertainment.
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Captain Earth isn't effectively balancing its silliness with its obsession with being Super Serious and Mysterious. It's so pushing its "serious" aspect that it's making it pretty hard to relate too. There's so much angst given to things that we have literally no comprehension of, and things just sort of happen that are mostly confusing. The stakes just aren't there.SALT CURES HAM posted:I haven't gotten around to watching it yet, but from what I know of the show, isn't that There is a comical aspect to some of it, sure, but the thing is that it is really hard to even follow the show for the sheer number of mysterious made up words they've attached to describe things, and that's not intrinsically funny enough to carry a show on its own. I mean, the fact that the show has an organization called Salty Dog spying using laser-based cup and string communication with a dude dude who just turns his coffee cup over and starts speaking, that's funny, but it then devotes the majority of its episodes to a lot of angst that we simply don't follow much. Star Driver was pretty mysterious as well, but it felt like the immediate stakes of what was going on and the organizational dynamics were much more clear. "A sinister council of teens are using time stopping robots to attempt to take over the world and kidnap my friend, gonna punch them in the diiick" versus "Aliens are invading Earth but they're doing it while on Earth by summoning robots from the Moon and I guess they work for a human company that is supporting them? If their robot lands on Earth bad things will happen for some reason! Apparently my childhood friend is also one which is apparently a big deal, time to not do all much!"
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You all looking it at from the wrong angle. Instead of going "why are things like this within the anime" you should be going "what sort allusion is the director going with this, in a show that has libido powered vampires robots and penis guns". Who cares why the evil robots do what they are doing, its a sperm trying to reach an ovum to fertilize it and the earth engine is a condom. -e I'll agree that there is just too much  in the show right now. Way too much jargon/telling instead of showing.
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ViggyNash posted:It's obviously implied. Sure, we'll go with that. Actually I'm not watching it because I want to catch up on the first season and I'm bad at doing the marathon thing. And yes, I know it's episodic and I could just jump into the new season. That's not how I roll. quote:The best part about this post is that, of the four of these I've seen, the only one I can recommend without caveats is Ping Pong. Hitsugi no Chaika rises above creepy moe poo poo but it's obvious that's the core of it's pitch. Jojo is pretty creepy about how it portrays women this season, including a highly sexual possession sequence. Mekaku is pretty tame for a shaft series but so was Nisekoi before it's swimsuit episode. Well obviously you have to watch every Shaft show with the expectation that a naked little girl might pop up at any time or that the main character might spontaneously decide to spend an episode molesting his little sister. I generally like Shaft's style but this is the first show of theirs in really long time I've been able to watch, so I hope it stays the course. I also think it's dumb to criticize Chaika for some imagined moe-bait. There's enough actual terrible poo poo in anime that we don't have to go making up more of it. And JoJo is a product of its time. I feel like the series does get better with female characters as it continues. You are completely and utterly missing my fundamental point. But clearly you don't really care so whatever. Joshlemagne fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Apr 30, 2014 |
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Zorak posted:Apparently my childhood friend is also one which is apparently a big deal, time to not do all much!" To be fair, we just found that out. I don't really recommend Capitan Earth yet, but I like that it doesn't over explain things and wouldn't want it to make them more clear. It's not necessarily relatable but I'm not sure if it would be if it was more cut and dry. The directing is really good too, so it manages to be evocative despite these weaknesses. I also like that it isn't going for a same thing happens every week plan like Star Driver. There's a reason they're going for this kind of vagueness and I'm willing to wait to see what's on its mind.
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SSNeoman posted:Right. Hey how about that Konojo ga Flag show? Is it worth watching? Sure, the characters are a bunch of stereotypes, but they written just good enough to be likeable, and the chemistry between them is great. The comedy is funny and the timing of it is generally excellent. The plot after the exposition at the end of the second episode also intrigued me quite a bit, which surprised me because before that I was rolling my eyes at all of this typical Tragic Past™ of the MC and Big Mystery™ and stuff. I also like how fast the pacing is, it ensures that they never get stuck on the same issue for long. Again, as I said, the show is definitely dumb and formulaic, but it just works. DiabloCthulhu fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Apr 30, 2014 |
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Long time lurker, first time poster. Personally I believe we should open the forum to nsfw images so we can really "analyze fanservice" 
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Butt Frosted Cake posted:Long time lurker, first time poster. Personally I believe we should open the forum to nsfw images so we can really "analyze fanservice" I for one would welcome the ins anely sexy anime thread 2: electric boogaloo. I miss that thread.
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Joshlemagne posted:In the interest of being on-topic here's a list of shows from this season that are both pretty decent to watch and mostly fanservice-free: Your list is missing Love Live!
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Atelier Escha & Logy is free of fanservice as of episode 3. They're trying to make a consistent story out of events that were separated by several months in-game so it's a little rough in some areas. The Arland series before it (Rorona, Totori, Meruru) had a lot of fan service and yuri subtext but they seem to have stopped it in the Dusk series. (They have manga adaptations of the other games I found out recently.)
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Really? The Totori and Meruru games had very little yuri subtext and fanservice. Which is funny seeing as they were developed by Gust.
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Well there was those brash sporty girls in totori/meruru that would sort of tease the main character but it was completely avoidable if you never ran with them. And it was more of a teasing manner than a romantic one anyways. There were equal parts manservice though, hell I think it was more predominant in Meruru given the larger cast of male characters, all of them fitting a particular niche. e-Well sort of forgot about Astrid but everyone in the game treats her like a massive creep. Cao Ni Ma fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Apr 30, 2014 |
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In terms of fanservice quantity, the Atelier games generally never really moved the needle. I'd compare the fanservice in Totori and Meruru to Persona 4 Golden, and more recent games in that series dialed the fanservice further down. It's very much a franchise that's utterly undeserving of its "fanservicy" rep.
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All I'm saying is I made it through Escha & Logy (the game) without walking in on a naked girl, seeing a girl getting groped, or having a bikini contest and so far it's held true for the anime.
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Nate RFB posted:But that's just the thing, it doesn't really feel like Enokido to me. Maybe a shallow, hollow imitation of him. Star Driver knew exactly what it was and had fun with the whole set-up for the most part, and I'm not getting that sense here at all. That's kind of funny, because based on Star Driver "a shallow, hollow imitation" is exactly how I would describe Enokido, of Ikuhara. 
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