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Speaking of rising stars in the Republican leadership who are from Obamastates....
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Is his handle really @GOPLeader and not something like @RepCantor? That's amazingly hubristic.
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Apr 30, 2014 23:14
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Tharizdun posted:Is his handle really @GOPLeader and not something like @RepCantor? That's amazingly hubristic. Pope Francis uses @pontifex, and if I recall correctly the account was set up by Benny 16. It's a good way to mark the continuity of an office rather than an individual - Cantor probably has one as @RepCantor or something for his office.
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Apr 30, 2014 23:24
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Tharizdun posted:Is his handle really @GOPLeader and not something like @RepCantor? That's amazingly hubristic. Is the title "Leader" new? I can't remember it being used before Pelosi and spoken it always sounded vaguely orwellain to me.
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Apr 30, 2014 23:27
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Ron Jeremy posted:Is the title "Leader" new? I can't remember it being used before Pelosi and spoken it always sounded vaguely orwellain to me. Added in 1899, but the full title is Majority/Minority Leader. Speaker is way more Orwellian.
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Apr 30, 2014 23:30
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Ron Jeremy posted:Is the title "Leader" new? I can't remember it being used before Pelosi and spoken it always sounded vaguely orwellain to me. Majority Leader of the United States House of Representatives. Title dates back to 1899. edit: gently caress
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May 1, 2014 00:01
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http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3627572 A final reminder that D&D's "switch Obama and Putin" Photoshop contest for $35 ends tomorrow!
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May 1, 2014 00:17
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Yeah, I was able to get my conservative leaning roommate to agree that he wants feudalism back so he can be as wealthy as he wants and keep everyone the gently caress out. I have to get out of this loving country
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May 1, 2014 00:21
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Triskelli posted:Yeah, I was able to get my conservative leaning roommate to agree that he wants feudalism back so he can be as wealthy as he wants and keep everyone the gently caress out. I've got some bad news for you then. Shitheads exist everywhere.
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May 1, 2014 00:26
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Those bastards! Does the shithead know no borders?
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May 1, 2014 00:33
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Raskolnikov38 posted:I've got some bad news for you then. Shitheads exist everywhere. While true they're more consistently reigned in, better educated, or have less power in some other places. Its varying levels of poo poo of course but why not try for a less lovely option?
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May 1, 2014 00:38
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Glad to see McCain showing cultural tolerance by attending whatever the hell this is.
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So yeah, because I can't read a calendar, the new OP is not going to be ready in time, so the May one will be another variation on the existing one. I wanted to rift off the next thread title and go sector by sector through America and lay out how every thing is hosed, topic by topic. Break down would be something like I) Food A) Food Production B) Food Distribution C) Food Access D) Food Prices E) Food & Health II) Water A) Water Supplies B) Water Cleanliness C) Water Usage D) Water Prices E) Sanitation III) Air A) Air pollution B) Short term issues C) Long term issues D) Air & Public Health IV) Land V) Housing VI) Utilities (Electricity, Trash, & Internet) VII) Health Care VIII) Economy IX) Finance X) Knowledge Workers etc) Manufacturing Service Workers Système D Immigration Organized Labor Patents Justice System Veterans' issues Race issues Gender issues LBGT issues Religion Generations Climate Change Foreign Policy Budgets and DEBT and then go in to what USA politics is actually focused on (let's put it this way - today the Dow hit a record high, and an entire street in Baltimore collapsed.) It is problematic because 1) Things really are hosed, and the more you learn the more you realize how hosed they are (2 million people don't have access to an indoor toilet, 147 million live in areas flagged for unsafe levels of air pollution, and we are almost out of money to repair roads for the year and it isn't even May yet) 2) Some of the stuff is so hosed I don't know how to classify it. (Is the way housing got rigged to steal every last penny nonwhites get part of the race topic, the housing topic, the zoning topic, or the finance topic?) 3) It approaches some sort of manifesto level writing, even just listing it all without pushing a solution. (Today's numbers had the economy basically flatline, and the markets soared on word the Federal Reserve wasn't going to do anything. How do you even address that objectively?) So yeah. Gonna put that on the back burner, keep poking at it, maybe for June. Shame because "Everything is hosed. Emphasis on Everything" would have gone great with it. Anyways  And for some non naval gazing stuff, here are more reports on Operation Choke Point, a DoJ program that sounds more like something Ashcroft would have done https://news.vice.com/articles/is-the-doj-forcing-banks-to-terminate-the-accounts-of-porn-stars http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ment-and-banks/ http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/economy-budget/204174-operation-choke-point-harmful-to-flow-of-commerce What started as a way of tracing networks and leaning on banks to shut down pay day loans appears to have grown to some strange monstrosity that targets everything regarded as unsavory - ammunition, tobacco, porn, pay day loans, medical and legalized marijuana, etc. Basically if it is regarded as a vice, they are getting frozen out of the banking industry, which cripples them as a business. Which is really bullshit, pass a law if you want to ban it. It is hard to gauge the extent of this operation, 90% of the sources out there are paranoid nutjob and political hack blogs. But what has popped up in verifiable sources does not sound good at all.
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To be fair letting pot dealers hold bank accounts is asking for money laundering charges.
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Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:To be fair letting pot dealers hold bank accounts is asking for money laundering charges. But they already launder money for the cartels with no one giving a drat
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May 1, 2014 00:58
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Fried Chicken posted:But they already launder money for the cartels with no one giving a drat I am shocked to hear there is gambling in this establishment!
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May 1, 2014 00:59
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FYI, the political opposition to Operation Chokepoint is being drummed up almost entirely by the May Day 2014 (Free Markets Free People) organization, which just happened to share a booth with the Koch-funded Competitive Enterprise Institute at CPAC this year. They are pushing back hard on this because the focus of the DoJ effort is on payday loans and MLM schemes. Here's the video they put together for tomorrow's grassroots rally to protect the interests of payday lenders. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-QvSgyWA18
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May 1, 2014 01:07
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It's weird how the average person carries on like nothing is happening when the country is in a state of.... I dunno, slow oligarchic takeover or something. Facebook is still dog pictures and happy statuses; the workplace is hush-hush. Ugh, it's almost a curse to want to read about politics right now. It is so painful and depressing. (note: don't mean to fear-monger or be melodramatic, although these feelings seem justified)
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May 1, 2014 01:10
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Fried Chicken posted:What started as a way of tracing networks and leaning on banks to shut down pay day loans appears to have grown to some strange monstrosity that targets everything regarded as unsavory - ammunition, tobacco, porn, pay day loans, medical and legalized marijuana, etc. Besides porn, I'm not sure anything of value is lost here. And I'll take the loss if it means that pay day vultures are permanently and completely hosed.
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Telesphorus posted:It's weird how the average person carries on like nothing is happening when the country is in a state of.... I dunno, slow oligarchic takeover or something. Facebook is still dog pictures and happy statuses; the workplace is hush-hush. Ugh, it's almost a curse to want to read about politics right now. It is so painful and depressing. Is this a freep post and you changed 'oligarchic takeover' from 'communist plot' or something?
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Telesphorus posted:It's weird how the average person carries on like nothing is happening when the country is in a state of.... I dunno, slow oligarchic takeover or something. Facebook is still dog pictures and happy statuses; the workplace is hush-hush. Ugh, it's almost a curse to want to read about politics right now. It is so painful and depressing. Eh it's not really weird. To put it in less nuance than I would like, the people most affected are the ones least able to learn/grasp how broken it is let alone how to address the issues.
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In all seriousness how can one say tobacco is being targeted? Last I checked tobacco is sold pretty drat openly and is in fact a multibillion dollar industry that sustains major portions of multiple state economies.
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Install Windows posted:In all seriousness how can one say tobacco is being targeted? Last I checked tobacco is sold pretty drat openly and is in fact a multibillion dollar industry that sustains major portions of multiple state economies. I'm betting it's more about head shops and e-cig stuff.
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Telesphorus posted:It's weird how the average person carries on like nothing is happening when the country is in a state of.... I dunno, slow oligarchic takeover or something. Facebook is still dog pictures and happy statuses; the workplace is hush-hush. Ugh, it's almost a curse to want to read about politics right now. It is so painful and depressing. I feel like, if anything, the opposite is the case - whereas I grew up hearing that discussing politics was rude or inadvisable, nowadays if I strike up a conversation at a bar or whatever with somebody or at work, it's even odds whether it ends up being about baseball or politics. I don't really have any data to substantiate it, though.
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May 1, 2014 01:33
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Fried Chicken posted:It is problematic because Someone said it before, but I'd be happy to read that manifesto, even just as part of the OP for whatever next iteration of this thread pops up.
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May 1, 2014 01:34
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I do think people are definitely more class or politically conscious these days. If you were around in the 90s, it's easy to look at the contrast given how much post-history "capitalism has won" bull shot rhetoric was floating around at the time.
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May 1, 2014 01:38
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Fried Chicken posted:(Today's numbers had the economy basically flatline, and the markets soared on word the Federal Reserve wasn't going to do anything. How do you even address that objectively?) To be fair, this is not so mysterious. It is widely assumed that Q1 was weak because of the harsh winter and weakness in export markets, and the FED continuing with the scheduled taper reassured markets that this thinking was correct.
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amanasleep posted:To be fair, this is not so mysterious. It is widely assumed that Q1 was weak because of the harsh winter and weakness in export markets, and the FED continuing with the scheduled taper reassured markets that this thinking was correct. Why is a weakness in export markets a reason for stocks to go up?
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/rob-ford-taking-leave-of-absence-lawyer-says-1.2627832quote:A lawyer for Toronto Mayor Rob Ford says Ford will take leave to seek help for substance abuse. Well, it's our northern neighbor, but hey, he's full of bad ideas.
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May 1, 2014 02:04
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:Why is a weakness in export markets a reason for stocks to go up? Because it was accurately predicted.
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:Why is a weakness in export markets a reason for stocks to go up? Put it this way: if the economy's performance was already known but the Fed's measures were not, then the former was already priced in, while the latter only just became so.
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May 1, 2014 02:17
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It's extremely easy to move out of the US. Quit being pussies and just do it.
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May 1, 2014 02:27
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:It's extremely easy to move out of the US. Quit being pussies and just do it. Not to nicer countries. 
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AShamefulDisplay posted:hahah... PHILLY!!! yup. It's so nice to know that Intelligent Anarchist and Liberty Lover Adam Kokesh was once on a TV show funded by Russia just to make us look stupid. Is there a single (insert cool new term invented to describe anarcho-capitalism) here that isn't ultimately a sociopath or conspiracy theorist.
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AShamefulDisplay posted:hahah... PHILLY!!! yup. So what exactly is the response to "Who will build the roads" from libertarians/feudalists? I mean, I know its "free market" but does it ever develop beyond that?
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Nope. The one an-cap I'm Facebook friends with thinks "private companies will build the roads" is an adequate answer to that question, and thinks it's dumb enough of a question that he and his friends comment "HOO BILD A ROAD" on each other's dumbass reposted links. (I blocked him from my feed a while ago, obviously.)
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loquacius posted:Nope. The one an-cap I'm Facebook friends with thinks "private companies will build the roads" is an adequate answer to that question, and thinks it's dumb enough of a question that he and his friends comment "HOO BILD A ROAD" on each other's dumbass reposted links. (I blocked him from my feed a while ago, obviously.) "So who builds the roads that don't go to Wal-mart or the gas station?" >whistling of the wind<
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So I didn't see this coming at all, but the Senate is set to vote on an amendment to reverse the citizens united ruling later this year http://m.thenation.com/blog/179607-senate-plans-vote-constitutional-amendment-counter-plutocracy-politics Text of the proposed amendment: quote:
Nice.
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:It's extremely easy to move out of the US. Quit being pussies and just do it. Is it? I mean moving within the country isn't cheap, and when your rear end is broke that makes it really hard. Not even trying to factor in any sort of immigration process which, while most likely not a giant mess as much as the US's, would stil have quite a few hoops to jump through for any sort of country worth moving to.
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