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Would anyone be interesting in having a mock draft game? Most accurate in the crap shoot gets platinum. +1 for getting a player in the first round. + 2 for getting it right in the top 10. +5 for matching a player and a team.
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I always chuckle at all the draft talking heads outsmarting themselves and mocking a TE, WR or LB to the Giants in the 1st year in and year out. D-lineman or CB, people. That's all Reese knows. I think Aaron Donald's going to New York.
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Apr 30, 2014 18:00
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Eric Branch just tweeted that the same source that told him the Niners were interested in Eric Reid last year says they're very high on Beckham. Probably would cost a lot less to trade into top 15 for him than top 8ish for Evans, so I cautiously approve of this idea.
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Apr 30, 2014 18:29
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Toymachine posted:I always chuckle at all the draft talking heads outsmarting themselves and mocking a TE, WR or LB to the Giants in the 1st year in and year out. Aaron Donald would only go to New York if he's there in the second. Reese only picks second round DTs that sometimes work out.
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Apr 30, 2014 18:39
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That makes a lot more sense to me than Evans. Depending on how late they pull the trigger they may only have to spend a third rounder.
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Apr 30, 2014 18:39
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Grozz Nuy posted:Eric Branch just tweeted that the same source that told him the Niners were interested in Eric Reid last year says they're very high on Beckham. Probably would cost a lot less to trade into top 15 for him than top 8ish for Evans, so I cautiously approve of this idea.
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Apr 30, 2014 19:05
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Grozz Nuy posted:Eric Branch just tweeted that the same source that told him the Niners were interested in Eric Reid last year says they're very high on Beckham. Probably would cost a lot less to trade into top 15 for him than top 8ish for Evans, so I cautiously approve of this idea. They should should swap firsts with the Chiefs and give the Chiefs a second for their trouble. There you go, another 7 draft spots.
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Apr 30, 2014 19:44
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man why is everyone so high on this eric ebron dude i just don't get it *never watched a single UNC game all year*
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Apr 30, 2014 19:54
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Alouicious posted:man why is everyone so high on this eric ebron dude i just don't get it He Just Drops Balls.
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Apr 30, 2014 19:55
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The only two or three games I saw he played last year, he was amazing, but he also needed to work on holding on to the catch.
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Apr 30, 2014 19:56
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No Butt Stuff posted:They should should swap firsts with the Chiefs and give the Chiefs a second for their trouble. There you go, another 7 draft spots. That sounds fine except for the fact that he'll be gone by the 23rd pick I think.
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Apr 30, 2014 20:00
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DupaDupa posted:Would anyone be interesting in having a mock draft game? Most accurate in the crap shoot gets platinum. I set up a group on nfl.com for their predict the pick thing. It was The Farthouse and the password was goons, I think.
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Apr 30, 2014 20:03
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Alouicious posted:man why is everyone so high on this eric ebron dude i just don't get it Says the North Carolina fan. Do tell.
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Apr 30, 2014 20:18
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AAA DOLFAN posted:Says the North Carolina fan. Do tell. I ain't no UNC fan man, I'm a Panthers fan but my college allegiances are mercenary and inconsistent at best
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Apr 30, 2014 20:21
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Okay can someone tell me one reason the Chiefs shouldn't draft Brandin Cooks? I think he's the only receiver that has a chance to be elite in the second half of the draft. Strengths: Explosive play-maker Very fast Consistently gets separation Weapon on third down Great hands Intelligent Stretches the defense Forces teams to keep a safety deep Quick release off of the line Excellent route runner Tough Short, but strong Plug and play; ready to contribute as a slot receiver High floor Upside Weaknesses: Very short Short wing span It's a good thing he won't be playing for the NBA. I hate falling in love with players before the draft and then just getting disappointed when they get drafted elsewhere (Eric Berry being the exception) but man I want this kid the more I read about him. quote:Won the Biletnikoff Award as the nation's top receiver in 2013, when he established Pac-12 single-season records with 128 receptions and 1,730 receiving yards, which led the FBS, in 13 starts at flanker; he also had 16 receiving touchdowns. Does anybody think this guy won't be successful in the NFL because he's short?
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Apr 30, 2014 20:24
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Alouicious posted:I ain't no UNC fan man, I'm a Panthers fan but my college allegiances are mercenary and inconsistent at best I'm a Falcons fan, but the college team I support is almost universally "The Underdogs". Because I like seeing the dreams of a perfect season loving ruined by an inferior team.
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Alouicious posted:man why is everyone so high on this eric ebron dude i just don't get it I did watch more than a few UNC games and his highlight videos and his game tape videos. He lines up in the slot more often than not, wasn't ever asked to block, and wrangles catches. Yes he's a physical freak but those are valid concerns to have over someone potentially going top 15.
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Apr 30, 2014 20:41
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kiimo posted:Okay can someone tell me one reason the Chiefs shouldn't draft Brandin Cooks? I think he's the only receiver that has a chance to be elite in the second half of the draft. Lee should be real good too and I like OBJ and Benjamin too. Basically there's like six receivers worthy of a first rounder so it's just a matter of which one is there.
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Apr 30, 2014 20:43
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Grozz Nuy posted:Eric Branch just tweeted that the same source that told him the Niners were interested in Eric Reid last year says they're very high on Beckham. Probably would cost a lot less to trade into top 15 for him than top 8ish for Evans, so I cautiously approve of this idea. I'd be totally down with this. He could contribute right away as kick returner, while they ease him into the offense. Also, have to keep the LSU theme going.
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kiimo posted:Okay can someone tell me one reason the Chiefs shouldn't draft Brandin Cooks? I think he's the only receiver that has a chance to be elite in the second half of the draft. Cooks kind of reminds me of a poor man's Percy Harvin, he's small but he's strong and tough as hell for his size. He doesn't quite have Tavon Austin's ridiculous juke moves in terms of comparing tiny burner WR prospects, but he's much more well rounded. No Butt Stuff posted:They should should swap firsts with the Chiefs and give the Chiefs a second for their trouble. There you go, another 7 draft spots. I wouldn't expect Beckham to fall out of the top 20, though. Current speculation is they might deal with the Ravens for 17 if he's still on the board then. A hypothetical deal of 30 and 61 for 17 would be just fine by me, then they'd still have the Chiefs' pick and all three thirds to address CB, OLB, or hell another WR just for kicks. It'd be more than they gave up to Dallas for Reid, but this is a better draft so I suspect the price for moving up will be higher. If they stay put it'll probably be Verrett or Fuller.
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Apr 30, 2014 21:26
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Grozz Nuy posted:If they stay put it'll probably be Verrett or Fuller. Not a big fan of Fuller, I hope not. Parmesan Basil posted:Lee should be real good too and I like OBJ and Benjamin too. Basically there's like six receivers worthy of a first rounder so it's just a matter of which one is there. I really don't get why Lee has fallen so far. I think he's going to be this year's Keenan Allen. Edit: I think Benjamin's a bit dodgy. 23 years old and has relatively limited experience, good long speed but no quickness. It's more likely he'll bust than succeed, but he's one of those guys you'd really have to meet in person to get a good handle on. Coldforge fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Apr 30, 2014 |
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Apr 30, 2014 21:35
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Coldforge posted:Not a big fan of Fuller, I hope not. Why not? The injuries?
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The Notorious ZSB posted:Why not? The injuries? I don't like the way he plays the position. Constantly gives up big chunks of yards to avoid getting beat deep (and when he plays tighter, he does get beat deep). Only seems to make a play on terrible passes. Don't like his form on tackles. Have a feeling he's going to spend a good chunk of time on the IR list, his injury history isn't because of freak accidents, but because he throws his body around. The Alabama game is a good one to watch to see his flaws (and his good points, too, he does have plenty of them). Edit: to be clear, I'm not just talking about scheme. When he plays off, he's slow to break on the play. When he plays man, he's slow to turn and doesn't adjust quickly. He only seems to be good in pure zone coverage. If I had to describe him, I'd say he's an undersized, injury prone tampa linebacker who makes lovely tackles. He's a poor (and starved) man's Sean Lee. Coldforge fucked around with this message at 00:10 on May 1, 2014 |
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Apr 30, 2014 23:16
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Dattserberg posted:I assure you, that's the case every year. Nah he's wrong. The Lions are an interesting team. Its usually for the wrong reasons though. Plus Megatron is awesome and does crazy things sometimes.
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Blake Bortles: Made for Minnesota http://mmqb.si.com/2014/04/29/blake-bortles-nfl-draft-minnesota-vikings/
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kiimo posted:Okay can someone tell me one reason the Chiefs shouldn't draft Brandin Cooks? Because the rest of the league is really enjoying Jamaal Charles completely carry an NFL offense by any means necessary? Seriously dude had 1980/5396 (36.6%) of KC's yards from scrimmage and 19/41 (46.3%) of their touchdowns. In only 15 games
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May 1, 2014 00:20
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William Clay Ford is dead. Earl Morrall is dead. This is totally the year where the Lions lose a Super Bowl.
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Azhais posted:Blake Bortles: Made for Minnesota  ...running ability and toughness, I guess? And I guess he seems like a decent guy, too...?  I'd prefer the Vikings draft Manziel or Bridgewater at this point, since they both seem to be decently accurate and Bridgewater clearly has an elite sense of the game beyond staring down one receiver -- Manziel does too, to a lesser degree -- but that could just be because I haven't taken the time to watch much of Bortles' tape outside of half a game's worth of passes. Would Bortles have an equal ability to Manziel and Bridgewater to take advantage of one of the most underrated receiver corps in the league, and a decent o-line? From what I've seen of all of the quarterbacks, and correct me if I'm wrong, only Manziel and Bridgewater even come close to having the ability to put the ball anywhere they want.
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May 1, 2014 00:43
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I don't think this has been posted in this thread yet: here's a detailed article about why future Patriot Tom Savage sucks.
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Grozz Nuy posted:I don't think this has been posted in this thread yet: here's a detailed article about why future Patriot Tom Savage sucks. Its a really good article and the same author wrote a piece about why Jimmy Garoppolo will probably suck: http://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2014/03/05/qb-jimmy-garoppolo-knockout/
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Oh boyquote:Eagles general manager Howie Roseman declined to rule out drafting Texas A&M QB Johnny Manziel on Wednesday.
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Everyone knows that everyone else is bullshitting about what they are going to do. Why doesn't a GM just say, "We've looked at all the players that interest us and for obvious reasons, I'm not going to tell you the truth about who I want or what I thought of them. Now, if you'd like me to lie about a prospect or who we want to draft, you can ask me a question."
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:Everyone knows that everyone else is bullshitting about what they are going to do. Why doesn't a GM just say, "We've looked at all the players that interest us and for obvious reasons, I'm not going to tell you the truth about who I want or what I thought of them. Now, if you'd like me to lie about a prospect or who we want to draft, you can ask me a question." That's no fun, though. It's a long week until draft time so we might as well just talk about mindless speculation for a while.
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DupaDupa posted:Its a really good article and the same author wrote a piece about why Jimmy Garoppolo will probably suck: http://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2014/03/05/qb-jimmy-garoppolo-knockout/ clearly racist against italians, do not listen to him
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:Everyone knows that everyone else is bullshitting about what they are going to do. Why doesn't a GM just say, "We've looked at all the players that interest us and for obvious reasons, I'm not going to tell you the truth about who I want or what I thought of them. Now, if you'd like me to lie about a prospect or who we want to draft, you can ask me a question." Doug Whaley pretty much said at the opening of his draft presser that it's the only time of the year he can use the media to his advantage my talking out of his arse and watch the reaction outside and within the league. I'm sure the talk about the Bills moving up is a smokescreen. I'd love for them to swap with the Giants and then grab Benjamin if Evans is gone by 9.
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Danny LaFever posted:Nah he's wrong. The Lions are an interesting team. Its usually for the wrong reasons though. It's true. Don't listen to me, I am broken.
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DupaDupa posted:Its a really good article and the same author wrote a piece about why Jimmy Garoppolo will probably suck: http://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2014/03/05/qb-jimmy-garoppolo-knockout/ Poor kid has the Gabberts? That's too bad. I liked him when he was a later round type, I guess I have no idea where he's supposed to go at this point. Well, liked him in a general way not knowing much about him other than the Senior Bowl.
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kiimo posted:Okay can someone tell me one reason the Chiefs shouldn't draft Brandin Cooks? I think he's the only receiver that has a chance to be elite in the second half of the draft. I think it was sportsonearth or footballoutsiders that did a piece on Cook's weaknesses but essentially they focused heavily on the Oregon game where he faced off against Ifo Ekpre-Olomu (who is considered a first round talent for 2015). Cooks really struggled against press coverage and his lack of reach and arm strength showed up with an inability to get good separation. I really felt like the article was more showing how crazy good Ifo is, but the authors really were speculative about whether Cooks could find success against an NFL quality DB
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Diodeous posted:I think it was sportsonearth or footballoutsiders that did a piece on Cook's weaknesses but essentially they focused heavily on the Oregon game where he faced off against Ifo Ekpre-Olomu (who is considered a first round talent for 2015). Cooks really struggled against press coverage and his lack of reach and arm strength showed up with an inability to get good separation. I really felt like the article was more showing how crazy good Ifo is, but the authors really were speculative about whether Cooks could find success against an NFL quality DB God, I wanted Ekpre-Olomu so bad. Why didn't he declare this year? 
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McGinn:quote:The Journal Sentinel polled 17 personnel men with national responsibilities to name their five top wide receivers. A first-place vote was worth five points, a second was worth four and so forth.
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