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Apple Jax posted:Well, if prune juice is a warrior's drink, I would think beans would be a warrior's food. Klingons are very regular.
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Apple Jax posted:Well, if prune juice is a warrior's drink, I would think beans would be a warrior's food. I take it warriors are meant to be constantly farting and defecating.
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Apr 30, 2014 19:51
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SouthLAnd posted:I had a dream last night that there was a new season of Enterprise and the NX-01 had got it's weird secondary hull thingy. Only in my dream, the Federation was an immediate failure, starfleet was destroyed, and Enterprise was referred to as the Rogue Ship Enterprise. Would watch
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If prune juice is a warrior's drink, does that mean blood wine tastes mostly like plum wine? Klingons are babies. Actually yeah, Klingons are babies - they're a warrior race of who Worf is one of the finest warriors, and he's on par with generic average non-combat trained humans, who are known to be weaker, live shorter, run less far and generally do everything besides compromise and make root beer worse than every other alien race. Man, Klingons suck - their chili is probably tins of refried beans, boiled ground beef, and a teaspoon of black pepper because any more would be too spicy for their ickle wickle wrinkley tongues.
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Apr 30, 2014 20:10
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Whalley posted:If prune juice is a warrior's drink, does that mean blood wine tastes mostly like plum wine? Klingons are babies. 
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Apr 30, 2014 20:14
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He looks like he just flipped a table because someone put the robber on his space in Catan again.
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Apr 30, 2014 20:26
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He looks excited because he's going to My Little Targy-con.
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Apr 30, 2014 20:28
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u8HQNG9k2s This is Worf in that picture.
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Apr 30, 2014 20:31
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Bicyclops posted:I scanned that list, but I don't see the lizard children of lizard Janeway and lizard Paris. Genetically humanoid!
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Whalley posted:He looks like he just flipped a table because someone put the robber on his space in Catan again. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS GAME. WHICH BONES DO I ROLL IN ORDER TO SLAUGHTER THE SHEEP?
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Apr 30, 2014 21:29
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While I understand that Francis is a character...he still deserves a bullet. I thought all Klingon food was like still moving, so why would their chilli have beans in it, unless they were like Klingon jumping fire beans or something horrible.
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Apr 30, 2014 21:35
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It's weird how The Masterpiece Society is like a non-post-apocalyptic version of Fallout.
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Nissir posted:I thought all Klingon food was like still moving Just gagh, it seems. They talk about roast targ and such, so gagh is just the most Klingony thing they eat, like Scots and haggis, Japanese and sea urchin, Aussies and Vegemite, Americans and Crisco...
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Apr 30, 2014 22:27
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Americans and Crisco... The Crisco is of America.
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Apr 30, 2014 22:45
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Is heart of targ raw or cooked?
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Whalley posted:Like, every time a non-humanoid existed, they were pretty much straight up bad guys. The Voth, the Caretakers, Species 8472, the Sheliak, always bad. I know it's expensive, but I just wanna see more of those fuckin' weird space chumps. NO KILL I
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SouthLAnd posted:I had a dream last night that there was a new season of Enterprise and the NX-01 had got it's weird secondary hull thingy. Only in my dream, the Federation was an immediate failure, starfleet was destroyed, and Enterprise was referred to as the Rogue Ship Enterprise. NX-01 doesn't look nearly cool enough to be any kind of rogue ship. It's really childish of me, but I love the scene where the Constitution-class Defiant just effortlessly takes Columbia apart, like the true star of Star Trek is waking up and slapping down the would-be pretender.
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That makes sense without the symbolism you ascribe to it: that ship is from the comparative far future, so of course it's going to obliterate the weaker ship.
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Brawnfire posted:heart of targ Unreasoning hope that some hoo-mon, somewhere, can't stop calling it Apocalypse Chow
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Brawnfire posted:Is heart of targ raw or cooked? raw of course, why would you want burnt targ meat
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MisterBibs posted:That makes sense without the symbolism you ascribe to it: that ship is from the comparative far future, so of course it's going to obliterate the weaker ship. Right, but it works on two levels!
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Fister Roboto posted:The Crisco is of America. Janeway shows that what Americans truly enjoy is a burned pot roast.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:It's really childish of me, but I love the scene where the Constitution-class Defiant just effortlessly takes Columbia apart, like the true star of Star Trek is waking up and slapping down the would-be pretender. Yep. Also love when they're investigating the 60s-style control panels. You can tell how "sufficiently advanced technology" the doohickeys are because they make no sense.
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The best part was seeing the Constitution and NX models side-by-side. The Connie came off as sleek and powerful, while the NX actually looked old and fragile by comparison. That was perhaps the first time in the series that it really looked like a prequel ship.
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I've always liked the NX-01 design and the aesthetic of Enterprise in general is a big part of why I enjoyed watching it. Trek fans in general seem to think that (theoretical) starship design has to "evolve" in a purely linear fashion. The NX-01 has the same general structure as a ship that comes 200 years later so CLEARLY it's WRONG. There are a lot of terrible fan designs on the internet that try to interpolate transitional designs in between featured time periods. Like, you have the TMP period with round saucers and then the VOY period with pointy saucers, and then anything that fits in between has to have a saucer with a sphericity in between something in TNG and something in VOY. Or the designs that speculate the lineage of the not-officially-canon Daedalus design that has a spherical hull to the TOS Enterprise. Ship 1 will have a spherical hull, then ship 2 will have a flatter spherical hull, and the next one an even flatter one, etc. until it eventually becomes a saucer. It's stupid.
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It was an upside down Akira. Even the producers said that.
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Trickjaw posted:It was an upside down Akira. Even the producers said that. The Akira is just an upside down NX-01. 
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Trickjaw posted:It was an upside down Akira. Even the producers said that.  OtherworldlyInvader posted:The Akira is just an upside down NX-01.
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He is white on the right side. All his people are white on the right side. 
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Bread is just raw toast.Subyng posted:I've always liked the NX-01 design and the aesthetic of Enterprise in general is a big part of why I enjoyed watching it. Trek fans in general seem to think that (theoretical) starship design has to "evolve" in a purely linear fashion. The NX-01 has the same general structure as a ship that comes 200 years later so CLEARLY it's WRONG. Yeah, this was especially annoying back when Enterprise was still airing. Countless threads and fansite articles all nitpicking the design for years on end... at least we eventually got a pretty funny rebuttal from Doug Drexler. And I totally agree about the aesthetic. After 21 seasons of 24th century Star Trek that mostly all looked and felt the same, Enterprise really was a breath of fresh air. That's part of the reason why none of these attempts at new shows with Captain Worf or Tuvok's renegades or whatever appeal to me in the slightest; I'd rather just get Enterprise back for the missing three seasons and call it day. Delsaber fucked around with this message at 03:36 on May 1, 2014 |
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The NX wouldn't have been shat on so badly if they hadn't straight up lifted exact surface details from the Akira rather than just the basic shape; it came across as lazy. Even the deflector dish feels mashed into the front of the saucer like an afterthought. The "unofficial" refit with the secondary hull does a lot to beef up the design and make it flow better, plus covering up some of the TNG style glowing blue poo poo. The rest of the show was the same basic corridors (my god, if the ship is so bloody small why did you make like 5 more corridors than the last show) and rooms built for TMP spraypainted copper with actual flatscreen monitors bolted on. I appreciate all the little nods to TOS the designers thought to include in that stuff but overall it looked very plain visually until they started adding colour and blinkies in the last season.
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Delsaber posted:Bread is just raw toast. You might want to fix those pics.
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I don't have any problems with the NX-01. Internally, the Okudagrams are primitive and blocky, like the difference between Windows 95 and Windows 8. The warp core is suitably huge and looks like an iron lung. The hallways are cramped, especially compared to something like Voyager. Externally, it has a tiny profile. You can barely tell where the engineering section is from a glance. The tiny catwalk and pylons underline how vulnerable it is. You can tell it's just a saucer section stapled onto some nascelles, and nearly every livable space has been jammed into the saucer section. Internally and externally it looks and feels like a cross between Zefram Cochrane's first warp vessel and the sleek stuff from TOS onwards.
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Tighclops posted:The NX wouldn't have been shat on so badly if they hadn't straight up lifted exact surface details from the Akira rather than just the basic shape; it came across as lazy. No, it would have been 'shat on' for some other reason. It would have been something like "It doesn't adhere to Star Trek aesthetics!" or something else. The funniest thing about the nerd-rage about it was that they didn't borrow from an iconic star ship design from an iconic series that the audience would recognize. They borrowed a Random Background Ship from Deep Space 9. TNGTalk: Watching Silicon Avatar, and I think I side with Riker over killing the damned thing. What are you going to say? "Hey, I know you have to consume things to survive, but if you could maybe not eat where you see things with two legs walking around, that'd be great?"?
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I really hate the secondary hull refit. That's not a refit. That's a whole new ship class, and a lovely, lazy one at that. A refit is what happened to the Connie; new nacelles, new deflector, replacing the interior decorating with new and modern touches, but the ship is largely the same. The NX-refit guts the entire ship to move the reactor into its own hull, and so much poo poo is done to it that it is no longer the same ship at all. Plus, it spoils the NX's lines.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:I really hate the secondary hull refit. That's not a refit. That's a whole new ship class, and a lovely, lazy one at that. A refit is what happened to the Connie; new nacelles, new deflector, replacing the interior decorating with new and modern touches, but the ship is largely the same. The NX-refit guts the entire ship to move the reactor into its own hull, and so much poo poo is done to it that it is no longer the same ship at all. How is the NX refit a "whole new ship class" and the TMP refit not? They specifically state "it's an almost entirely new Enterprise" multiple times in the film and it's clear more has been changed about the innards than just the wallpaper. In fact a lot of early supplemental material lists the refit as an Enterprise class, separate from the existing Constitution. If you're gonna sperg, sperg properly. MisterBibs posted:No, it would have been 'shat on' for some other reason. It would have been something like "It doesn't adhere to Star Trek aesthetics!" or something else. Yes yes, there will always be some contingent of "fans" somewhere that will find fault in some aspect of whatever incarnation of the franchise for dubious reasons. That these people exist isn't really something worth pointing out anymore nor do they magically negate actual, reasonable criticism.
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Tighclops posted:How is the NX refit a "whole new ship class" and the TMP refit not? They specifically state "it's an almost entirely new Enterprise" multiple times in the film and it's clear more has been changed about the innards than just the wallpaper. In fact a lot of early supplemental material lists the refit as an Enterprise class, separate from the existing Constitution. If you're gonna sperg, sperg properly. Because the Connie refit was pretty much the same hull aside from some cosmetic changes. The nx 01 refit adds an entirely new hull. Saying they are the same class is like saying the nebula is the same as the galaxy.
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MisterBibs posted:"Hey, I know you have to consume things to survive, but if you could maybe not eat where you see things with two legs walking around, that'd be great?"? Taken out of context this sounds like something you'd say to Galactus. I think the real question would be whether it's worth waiting to decipher a communication with the thing or not, and that's tricky. What are the odds it could be reasoned with? On the other hand, what if blowing it up will lead to reprisal from the Crystalline Empire? 
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